On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have always
regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

Carry a suitcase up or down the stairs and catch it on the wall - and you
can end up with the blown vinyl just being scraped off the paper. Smaller
scrapes can be created with a ring - or even just a finger nail or a watch.
Because of this I just wont use the stuff - because there is really no
effective way to repair such a 'scrape'. You can paint it over, of course,
but you cannot repair the damaged pattern.

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is that
embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl because of its
resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it is not more widely
used - and why more patterns are not available.

--
Kev

On 24/05/2011 07:46, Ret. wrote:
On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have
always regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

Carry a suitcase up or down the stairs and catch it on the wall - and
you can end up with the blown vinyl just being scraped off the paper.
Smaller scrapes can be created with a ring - or even just a finger nail
or a watch. Because of this I just wont use the stuff - because there is
really no effective way to repair such a 'scrape'. You can paint it
over, of course, but you cannot repair the damaged pattern.

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is that
embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl because of
its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it is not more
widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

Would "Both are utterly horrible" be an appropriate answer? Both in
looks and to remove when it's discovered. I'll bet there's plenty of
tales here of people swearing at the stuff...

On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:28:45 +0100, Clive George
wrote:


Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is that
embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl because of
its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it is not more
widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

Would "Both are utterly horrible" be an appropriate answer? Both in
looks and to remove when it's discovered. I'll bet there's plenty of
tales here of people swearing at the stuff...

The original Lincrusta Wilton, which when painted brown used to be
much favoured by 85 year old widows living in 1920's houses, even in
it's heyday, was as expensive as hell and used to be ordered by the
foot.

It was also 99% rigid and probably well beyond the capabilities of a
17 year old Youf to apply.

Derek G

Clive George wrote:
On 24/05/2011 07:46, Ret. wrote:
On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have
always regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

Carry a suitcase up or down the stairs and catch it on the wall - and
you can end up with the blown vinyl just being scraped off the paper.
Smaller scrapes can be created with a ring - or even just a finger
nail or a watch. Because of this I just wont use the stuff - because
there is really no effective way to repair such a 'scrape'. You can
paint it over, of course, but you cannot repair the damaged pattern.

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is
that embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl
because of its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it
is not more widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

Would "Both are utterly horrible" be an appropriate answer? Both in
looks and to remove when it's discovered. I'll bet there's plenty of
tales here of people swearing at the stuff...

Better than artex!

--
Adam

On Tue, 24 May 2011 13:03:37 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:

Clive George wrote:
On 24/05/2011 07:46, Ret. wrote:
On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have
always regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

snip

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is that
embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl because of
its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it is not more
widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

Would "Both are utterly horrible" be an appropriate answer? Both in
looks and to remove when it's discovered. I'll bet there's plenty of
tales here of people swearing at the stuff...

Better than artex!

And How! I've got acres (achers?) to remove :-(

N

Clive George wrote:
On 24/05/2011 07:46, Ret. wrote:
On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have
always regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

Carry a suitcase up or down the stairs and catch it on the wall - and
you can end up with the blown vinyl just being scraped off the paper.
Smaller scrapes can be created with a ring - or even just a finger
nail or a watch. Because of this I just wont use the stuff - because
there is really no effective way to repair such a 'scrape'. You can
paint it over, of course, but you cannot repair the damaged pattern.

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is
that embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl
because of its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it
is not more widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

Would "Both are utterly horrible" be an appropriate answer? Both in
looks and to remove when it's discovered. I'll bet there's plenty of
tales here of people swearing at the stuff...

I currently have (genuine) anaglypta in my hall/stairs/landing. It's a
difficult area to wallpaper - and being able to change the decor simply via
a coat of emulsion is just the job. It's been up a long time, however, and
is rather an old-fashioned pattern. We want something a little more modern -
but which will also last for many years.

--
Kev

--
Kev

On May 24, 1:02*pm, Derek G. wrote:

The original Lincrusta Wilton, which when painted brown used to be
much favoured by 85 year old widows living in 1920's houses, even in
it's heyday, was as expensive as hell and used to be ordered by the
foot.

So what's the best modern replacement for that? I've an 1880s
stairway that wants doing. Lincrusta (in a light colour) would be just
the job.

I currently have (genuine) anaglypta in my hall/stairs/landing. It's a
difficult area to wallpaper - and being able to change the decor
simply via a coat of emulsion is just the job. It's been up a long
time, however, and is rather an old-fashioned pattern. We want
something a little more modern - but which will also last for many
years.
You might want to look at and seek opinions on the Armadillo range. I
wanted to go with it. SWMBO didn't like the patterns. 3 years later
the "ordinary" is scuffed in a dozen or more places.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com

On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
wrote:



So what's the best modern replacement for that? I've an 1880s
stairway that wants doing. Lincrusta (in a light colour) would be just
the job.

Seems it's still available and there are specialist installers ...

http://www.lincrusta.com

Derek G

On May 25, 1:57*am, Derek G. wrote:

Seems it's still available and there are specialist installers ...

http://www.lincrusta.com

Hmmm..... I feel some spending coming on!

I need to make a couple of decorative plinths (don't ask - wedding
venue stuff) and a frieze of the Adam stuff, picked out in gold on a
dark red background, would decorate them beautifully. It's also a
chance to practice with the stuff on a small scale.

John Rumm wrote:
On 24/05/2011 07:46, Ret. wrote:
On the few occasions that I have used paintable blown vinyls, I have
always regretted it because of its vulnerability to 'scrapes'.

Carry a suitcase up or down the stairs and catch it on the wall - and
you can end up with the blown vinyl just being scraped off the paper.
Smaller scrapes can be created with a ring - or even just a finger
nail or a watch. Because of this I just wont use the stuff - because
there is really no effective way to repair such a 'scrape'. You can
paint it over, of course, but you cannot repair the damaged pattern.

Unfortunately, availability of genuine anaglypta is poor - and their
patterns have not changed for donkey's years. My personal view is
that embossed anaglypta is significantly superior to blown vinyl
because of its resistance to damage - and I cannot understand why it
is not more widely used - and why more patterns are not available.

The quick answer to why its not widely used (if you ignore the current
fashion for smooth over textured) comes down to price. Proper
lincrusta etc is still available, but at a scary price!

You can get various embossed papers that are slightly more resistant
to damage than blown vinyl, but not even close to the resistance to
damage of a proper lincrusta.

Oh yes - I accept that. But the 'proper' anaglypta, being a heavy embossed
paper, rather than paper with blown vinyl stuck on it, is certainly more
resistant to damage than blown vinyl. The blown vinyl on that type of
wallpaper, scrapes off very easily with just a fingernail. I don't rate it
at all.

--
Kev

On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:15:15 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
wrote:


Hmmm..... I feel some spending coming on!

I need to make a couple of decorative plinths (don't ask - wedding
venue stuff) and a frieze of the Adam stuff, picked out in gold on a
dark red background, would decorate them beautifully. It's also a
chance to practice with the stuff on a small scale.

Start in a small way with a few gargoyles and cherubs with long thin
trumpets.

Derek G

Andy Dingley wrote:

http://www.lincrusta.com

Hmmm..... I feel some spending coming on!

Blimey a quick scout for prices, seems it's about £150/roll (including
adhesive and VAT)

On May 26, 12:59*am, Andy Burns wrote:

Blimey a quick scout for prices, seems it's about 150/roll (including
adhesive and VAT)

Yes.... Google Shopping claims a bit cheaper, but still not cheap.

Just what are they making this stuff out of? These are the same sort
of prices as the hand-printed William Morris papers.

Its more like lino than paper - probably why it lasts a century!

Which prompts the question: what'd be involved in DIY-ing wall carpet?
Eg is it fixed? (I don't really want a corporate feel but I am reminded
how well wall carpet absorbs knocks which would damage all but "wall
linoleum".)
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com

Eg is it fixed?
Sorry - should have been "how is it fixed?" - I don't want tapestries!
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com

On May 26, 8:00*am, "Robin" wrote:
Its more like lino than paper - probably why it lasts a century!

Which prompts the question: what'd be involved in DIY-ing wall carpet?

Time machine set to 1973

On May 26, 3:51*am, John Rumm wrote:

Its more like lino than paper - probably why it lasts a century!

Some friends (architect & record label magnate) had lino laid in their
dining room a while back - the real deal stuff. Even that didn't cost
this much.

On Thu, 26 May 2011 02:39:07 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On May 26, 8:00*am, "Robin" wrote:
Its more like lino than paper - probably why it lasts a century!

Which prompts the question: what'd be involved in DIY-ing wall carpet?

Time machine set to 1973

Which was round about the time I carpeted the entire inside of my
Commer Dress Van as part of the process of turning it into a camper.
By golly, the Evo-stick smelt good in those days!

Nick

On May 26, 10:55*am, Nick Odell
wrote:

By golly, the Evo-stick smelt good in those days!

If you remember the smell of the Evo-Stik, you weren't there with the
real Evo-stik, Man.