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Mains Driven Water System
Tabby wrote:
On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT |
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On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? Jim K |
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Jim K wrote:
On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? No idea. Never serviced mine at all.been in 10 years now. Supposed to check the pressure safety valve but cant be arsed. :-) Jim K |
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On May 15, 12:30 am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Jim K wrote: On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? No idea. Never serviced mine at all.been in 10 years now. Supposed to check the pressure safety valve but cant be arsed. :-) I expect the OPs plumber will have a different more mainstream view along with his own figure in mind for the obligatory? annual safety inspection and test, an ongoing cost that should not be glibly overlooked.... Jim K |
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On May 15, 9:54*am, Jim K wrote:
On May 15, 12:30 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Jim K wrote: On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. *B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? No idea. Never serviced mine at all.been in 10 years now. Supposed to check the pressure safety valve but cant be arsed. :-) I expect the OPs plumber will have a different more mainstream view along with his own figure in mind for the obligatory? annual safety inspection and test, an ongoing cost that should not be glibly overlooked.... Jim K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What annual safety test? What is to go wrong? What dangers are there? |
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On May 15, 12:00 pm, harry wrote:
On May 15, 9:54 am, Jim K wrote: On May 15, 12:30 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Jim K wrote: On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? No idea. Never serviced mine at all.been in 10 years now. Supposed to check the pressure safety valve but cant be arsed. :-) I expect the OPs plumber will have a different more mainstream view along with his own figure in mind for the obligatory? annual safety inspection and test, an ongoing cost that should not be glibly overlooked.... What annual safety test? What is to go wrong? What dangers are there? kin ell Harry it's not like you to miss a chance http://yaph.co.uk/unvented/ or JFGI "unvented hot water cylinder safety inspection" Jim K |
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On May 15, 1:05*pm, Jim K wrote:
On May 15, 12:00 pm, harry wrote: On May 15, 9:54 am, Jim K wrote: On May 15, 12:30 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Jim K wrote: On May 14, 3:54 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tabby wrote: On May 14, 3:11 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On 14 May 2011 12:45:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote: The cylinder is bare with a loose cover so I want it replaced with a foamed cylinder. Is there actually much to be gained? You are not limitted to just a single loose cover and you could wrap space blanket loft insulation around it as well. Or build a a box around it and fill all the space with insulation. far less work and cost than a new cylinder! Are there any things to watch out for, e.g. existing fittings/connectors put under mains pressure showing up weaknesses etc? Quite a possibility I would have though but do you want mains pressure everywhere? Personally I like the water to stay in the basin/sink when I turn a tap on not hit the bottom and bouce out or shoot around the rounded shape and out. *B-) Perhaps the plumber could make a list of other unnecessary works he could do for you too, at your cost of course. IF you happen to want upstairs showers you will save a fortune on pumps I have not regretted a mains pressure system one microsecond. Nor a whole house water softener. NT what's the annual service charge? No idea. Never serviced mine at all.been in 10 years now. Supposed to check the pressure safety valve but cant be arsed. :-) I expect the OPs plumber will have a different more mainstream view along with his own figure in mind for the obligatory? annual safety inspection and test, an ongoing cost that should not be glibly overlooked.... What annual safety test? What is to go wrong? What dangers are there? kin ell Harry it's not like you to miss a chance http://yaph.co.uk/unvented/ or JFGI "unvented hot water cylinder safety inspection" Jim K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - .. I am not an advocate of them. They have moving parts & hence something to go wrong. Stick with the traditional way. Have decades of problem free plumbing. |
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