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I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Thanks J^n |
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On Mar 9, 9:57*pm, Owain wrote:
On Mar 9, 9:55*pm, The Night Tripper wrote: Hi all * * I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Depends on the laptops; some may use some form of feedback about battery status to the power supply and get upset if connected in parallel. Owain Start by defining what voltage you need. Until you have, theres not much worth saying. NT |
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:55:08 +0000, The Night Tripper wrote:
Hi all I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? I'm curous why? Apart from the obvious advantage of introducing a single point of failure ;-) -- John Stumbles If a tree falls in a forest, can one hand hear it clap? |
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@a26g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says... * * I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Depends on the laptops; some may use some form of feedback about battery status to the power supply and get upset if connected in parallel. And some, Dell spring to mind, just check to see if it's a "proper" Dell PSU and throw a wobbler if it isn't. -- Skipweasel - never knowingly understood. |
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Tabby wrote:
On Mar 9, 9:57 pm, Owain wrote: On Mar 9, 9:55 pm, The Night Tripper wrote: Hi all I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Depends on the laptops; some may use some form of feedback about battery status to the power supply and get upset if connected in parallel. Owain Start by defining what voltage you need. Until you have, theres not much worth saying. I know what voltage I need - would your advice differ whether it is (say) 18V0, 18V5 or 19V1? That's why I left it loose... J^n |
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Skipweasel wrote:
Dunno about the OP, but we had 20 laptops arrive the other day and I have to arrange to charge them all. Doing it with 20 mains sockets and 20 little chargers is a right royal pain in the arse - it's bulky and prone to people nicking the chargers and not putting them back properly. If the laptops need individual regulation (which I'd hope they wouldn't, but you never know), buy N car chargers and then run them off the 12V rail of a PC power supply or three. Cable tie the charger bricks down (to a nice metal plate for heatsinking, ideally). Theo |
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says... If the laptops need individual regulation (which I'd hope they wouldn't, but you never know), buy N car chargers and then run them off the 12V rail of a PC power supply or three. Cable tie the charger bricks down (to a nice metal plate for heatsinking, ideally). It's still bulky. -- Skipweasel - never knowingly understood. |
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:35:39 +0000, The Night Tripper wrote:
Hi - the situation is not dissimilar to that, it's for powering an 'array' of laptops for a project, without the bulk and untidiness of multiple PSUs. They are Samsung (single Jack connector) FWIW - though I do take the point about the laptops being 'intelligent' about the power supply... Ahh. Wondered if you were trying to run them all off low volts DC or something exotic.. I know it's not the answer you're after but if it were me I'd be inclined to a largish plastic storage box and sling the PSUs and a mess of trailing blocks in there so I have a large "multi laptop PSU" with one mains cable in and n*DC cables out to the lappys. Criterion | Points -----------|-------- elegance | 0 job-done | 10/10 :-) -- John Stumbles Many hands make light work. Too many cooks spoil the broth. |
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On Mar 10, 9:58*am, John Stumbles wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:35:39 +0000, The Night Tripper wrote: Hi - the situation is not dissimilar to that, it's for powering an 'array' of laptops for a project, without the bulk and untidiness of multiple PSUs. They are Samsung (single Jack connector) FWIW - though I do take the point about the laptops being 'intelligent' about the power supply... Ahh. Wondered if you were trying to run them all off low volts DC or something exotic.. I know it's not the answer you're after but if it were me I'd be inclined to a largish plastic storage box and sling the PSUs and a mess of trailing blocks in there so I have a large "multi laptop PSU" with one mains cable in and n*DC cables out to the lappys. Laptop supplies can get quite warm. You need to be careful with ventilation. MBQ |
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On Mar 9, 11:29*pm, Theo Markettos
wrote: Skipweasel wrote: Dunno about the OP, but we had 20 laptops arrive the other day and I have to arrange to charge them all. Doing it with 20 mains sockets and 20 little chargers is a right royal pain in the arse - it's bulky and prone to people nicking the chargers and not putting them back properly.. If the laptops need individual regulation (which I'd hope they wouldn't, but you never know), buy N car chargers and then run them off the 12V rail of a PC power supply or three. Few laptop supplies are as low as 12V. MBQ |
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On 10/03/2011 09:58, John Stumbles wrote:
I know it's not the answer you're after but if it were me I'd be inclined to a largish plastic storage box and sling the PSUs and a mess of trailing blocks in there so I have a large "multi laptop PSU" with one mains cable in and n*DC cables out to the lappys. Could do this in a largish ventilated aluminium flight case, supporting and spacing each power supply within a matrix of stiff, er, coat hanger wires? Then add a temperature activated fan for forced cooling. Criterion | Points -----------|-------- elegance | 0 job-done | 10/10 Aye. Alternatives is to find if samsung have indeed locked the use of the laptops to their specific chargers. For that, why not try a generic on one and see what happens? or, as a large user - ask Samsung technical? -- Adrian C |
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Man at B&Q wrote:
On Mar 9, 11:29Â*pm, Theo Markettos wrote: If the laptops need individual regulation (which I'd hope they wouldn't, but you never know), buy N car chargers and then run them off the 12V rail of a PC power supply or three. Few laptop supplies are as low as 12V. Indeed, which is why you use car chargers to regulate from 12ishV to 19V or whatever the laptops expect. The car chargers are also designed to take the noisy power that comes out of a car electrical system, so should protect you if anything goes wrong. I'm surprised that straight barrel chargers have any kind of intelligence: I'd have thought all the regulation would be in the laptop. So give the laptop 19V at 2A (or whatever) and see what happens. I'd expect that any voltage around there would also work, but it depends how paranoid you are about frying laptops. Theo |
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On Mar 9, 11:27*pm, The Night Tripper wrote:
Tabby wrote: On Mar 9, 9:57 pm, Owain wrote: On Mar 9, 9:55 pm, The Night Tripper wrote: Hi all I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Depends on the laptops; some may use some form of feedback about battery status to the power supply and get upset if connected in parallel. Owain Start by defining what voltage you need. Until you have, theres not much worth saying. I know what voltage I need - would your advice differ whether it is (say) 18V0, 18V5 or 19V1? That's why I left it loose... * * J^n I'd say the above makes it fairly clear the answer is yes. Not to worry. |
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On Mar 9, 11:27 pm, The Night Tripper wrote: Tabby wrote: On Mar 9, 9:57 pm, Owain wrote: On Mar 9, 9:55 pm, The Night Tripper wrote: Hi all I have a use for powering multiple laptops (four to begin with, possibly going higher than that) from a single source, rather than separate power supplies all wired into the mains. I'm thinking on an open frame chassis PSU supplying 19V or whatever the standard is. Does anyone know of anything specifically tailored for this kind of application? Depends on the laptops; some may use some form of feedback about battery status to the power supply and get upset if connected in parallel. Owain Start by defining what voltage you need. Until you have, theres not much worth saying. I know what voltage I need - would your advice differ whether it is (say) 18V0, 18V5 or 19V1? That's why I left it loose... J^n I'd say the above makes it fairly clear the answer is yes. Not to worry. My laptops vary from 9.5v for the netbook to 19V for the Compaq. None of them care whether or not the voltage is from an official PSU except a very old Thinkpad 760, which uses a "unique to IBM" connector. What they all have in common, though is that they are quite insistent that the inout voltage is correct. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 10/03/2011 12:27, Theo Markettos wrote:
Man at wrote: On Mar 9, 11:29 pm, Theo wrote: If the laptops need individual regulation (which I'd hope they wouldn't, but you never know), buy N car chargers and then run them off the 12V rail of a PC power supply or three. Few laptop supplies are as low as 12V. Indeed, which is why you use car chargers to regulate from 12ishV to 19V or whatever the laptops expect. The car chargers are also designed to take the noisy power that comes out of a car electrical system, so should protect you if anything goes wrong. I'm surprised that straight barrel chargers have any kind of intelligence: I'd have thought all the regulation would be in the laptop. Don't know if you are commenting on it, but the 'inteligence' refered to in other parts of the thread is this protection (racket) thing. http://www.laptop-junction.com/toast/content/inside-dell-ac-power-adapter-mystery-revealed Some other manufacturers are up to the same as it apparently exonerates them from blame if the customers machine blows up while using a non-original adapter. Actually the real reason is ... (cont on p94) -- Adrian C |
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On Mar 10, 1:53*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:21:21 -0800 (PST), Man at B&Q wrote: I know it's not the answer you're after but if it were me I'd be inclined to a largish plastic storage box and sling the PSUs and a mess of trailing blocks in there ... Laptop supplies can get quite warm. You need to be careful with ventilation. Aye, my little 150W invertor when inside a box with all the other gubins to get the playstation to work in the car shuts down with "overheat" after about 45 mins. That's only powering a Playstation II, 50W at the very most. I suspect that any single PSU will also have to be quite beefy. What does a laptop draw when running and charging, couple of amps at twenty volts (ish)? IIRC there are twenty laptops so that's 40A. My adapter is rated at 16V/4.5A, more like 60W potential. MBQ |
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On 10/03/2011 16:26, John Rumm wrote:
Assuming they are all the same, and they have two pin power inputs, then in theory there is nothing to stop you feeding several from the same supply. More practical problems include finding a suitable supply which can deliver enough current to power several at a time. You may be able to use an off the shelf computer PSU with 5V and 12V rails in series Yeah, but they would more than likely need internal modding to do that, both those typically heavy 5V & 12V rails on PC and non-PC supplies (like I rescue from all sorts) share a common ground. -- Adrian C |
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