"JTM" wrote in message
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In article ,
Nightjar \cpb\@ insertmysurnamehere wrote:
On 24/01/2011 09:20, The Medway Handyman wrote:
New washing machine delivered Sunday late morning,
installed early afternoon, old one left on drive.

8:45 this morning pikey's turned up asking (?) if they
could take it away!

We live in a cul-de-sac, no passing traffic - have they
got some kind of radar to detect scrap metal?

Perhaps they follow delivery vans.

Colin Bignell
- or noticed it when they were checking out your shed /
vehicle / frontdoor at 3am

John

--

What a bloody sad state of affairs this country is in.
I could continue but that might take many, many pages.

Nick.

(Andrew Gabriel) wrote in news:ihmvj8$ja1$1
@news.eternal-september.org:


Neighbour having a new roof put on his house.
The roofer got a roll of flashing out of his van and had
unrolled a few feet along some scafold planks. He went back up
onto the roof to look at something, and saw the pikey legging it
across the road with the roll of flashing. He said it's happened
a few times before and the last thing you do is give chase,
unless you want all the windows smashed at 3am next day...

Only a problem if the pikey lives to tell the tale.

--
Tom

Tom wrote:
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote in news:ihmvj8$ja1$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Neighbour having a new roof put on his house.
The roofer got a roll of flashing out of his van and had
unrolled a few feet along some scafold planks. He went back up
onto the roof to look at something, and saw the pikey legging it
across the road with the roll of flashing. He said it's happened
a few times before and the last thing you do is give chase,
unless you want all the windows smashed at 3am next day...

Only a problem if the pikey lives to tell the tale.

And his mates don't find out where you live.......

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/..._licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?

Stephen.


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In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?

If you go to that website, and click on the link
'Environment Agency'
this takes you to
http://www.environment-agency.org.uk/
where there is a photograph of two men exchanging a 'funny' handshake.
Maybe Mr Jolly didn't shake hands properly with the guys who apprehended
him!
--
Ian

In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge
--
Chris French

chris French wrote:
In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check
the driver, and apparently local council staff now check for
correct licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are
despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste
at the tip for no extra charge

I don't think it as simple as that now. Personally I make sure my waste is
disposed of legally so I will not buy a license.


--
Adam

On Jan 25, 8:24 pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message ,
writes

In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?

If you go to that website, and click on the link
'Environment Agency'
this takes you tohttp://www.environment-agency.org.uk/
where there is a photograph of two men exchanging a 'funny' handshake.
Maybe Mr Jolly didn't shake hands properly with the guys who apprehended
him!
--
Ian

perhaps they meant the real one

www.environment-agency.gov.uk

Jim K

In article ,
says...
I don't think it as simple as that now. Personally I make sure my waste is
disposed of legally so I will not buy a license.


Commonest way is to tell the customer it's their problem.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

In message
Ian Jackson wrote:

In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?

If you go to that website, and click on the link
'Environment Agency'
this takes you to
http://www.environment-agency.org.uk/
where there is a photograph of two men exchanging a 'funny' handshake.
Maybe Mr Jolly didn't shake hands properly with the guys who apprehended
him!

I could not find a way past the hand shake picture to find
anything ;(


Stephen.


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From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message
Jim K wrote:

On Jan 25, 8:24 pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message ,
writes

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?

If you go to that website, and click on the link
'Environment Agency'
this takes you tohttp://www.environment-agency.org.uk/
where there is a photograph of two men exchanging a 'funny' handshake.
Maybe Mr Jolly didn't shake hands properly with the guys who apprehended
him!
--
Ian

perhaps they meant the real one

www.environment-agency.gov.uk

Jim K

I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't
easily seem to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought
someone here would know roughly the cost.

Stephen.


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From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message
chris French wrote:

In message ,
writes

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge

That's not an unreasonable (yearly) amount if you regularly need
to dump stuff at the tip.

Stephen.


--
http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk
From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message ,
writes

http://www.environment-agency.org.uk/


I could not find a way past the hand shake picture to find
anything ;(

No problems here. Is your computer working?
--
Ian

wrote in :

In message
chris French wrote:

In message ,
writes

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge

That's not an unreasonable (yearly) amount if you regularly need
to dump stuff at the tip.

That's the cost for the transport licence ... not what you may be charged
at the tip.

--

All the best,

Chris

In message , Skipweasel
writes
In article ,
says...
I don't think it as simple as that now. Personally I make sure my waste is
disposed of legally so I will not buy a license.


Commonest way is to tell the customer it's their problem.

There are no problems, only challenges


--
geoff

In message , geoff
writes
In message , Skipweasel
writes
In article ,
says...
I don't think it as simple as that now. Personally I make sure my waste is
disposed of legally so I will not buy a license.


Commonest way is to tell the customer it's their problem.

There are no problems, only challenges

That's old terminology. In recent years, it has become obligatory to
refer to 'problems' as 'issues'.
--
Ian

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:23:18 GMT, wrote:

I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't easily seem
to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought someone here would
know roughly the cost.

I think the local council issues the licence so the charge will be
dependant on the council concerned.

Thinks, I live in Cumbria but the nearest tip is in Northumberland
would a license issued by Cumbria allow me to use Northumberlands tip
if not could I get a licence from Northumbria as I'm not resident in
that county?

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:12:54 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

That's old terminology. In recent years, it has become obligatory to
refer to 'problems' as 'issues'.

Argh! I hate that.

"Problems" can have solutions or work arounds.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/problem


"Issues"? WTF has that got to do with something that is faulty, out
of alignment or otherwise not preforming as expeced?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/issue

--
Cheers
Dave.

wrote in message ...


I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't
easily seem to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought
someone here would know roughly the cost.

********************

Fees are here
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...rs/121789.aspx
£154 to register as a waste carrier.

Charges for dumping said waste would be completely separate.

Members of the 'schemes' (eg niceic/napit) are encouraged to have waste
disposal policies and licences. For the one-man-bands the best policy seems
to be leave it with your customer as domestic waste!

Regards
Bruce

"Huge" wrote in message ...

On 2011-01-26, BruceB wrote:

Members of the 'schemes' (eg niceic/napit) are encouraged to have waste
disposal policies and licences. For the one-man-bands the best policy
seems
to be leave it with your customer as domestic waste!

Something I will generally not accept, except for tiny quantities. Taking
away the waste is part of the job. And no, I don't mind paying for it.


*********************
For which I admire and agree with your attitude, except the paying bit.
I do resent paying yet another tax.
It is just a job and revenue creation scheme without any benefit to the
environment.

Regards
Bruce

Huge wrote:
On 2011-01-26, BruceB wrote:

Members of the 'schemes' (eg niceic/napit) are encouraged to have
waste disposal policies and licences. For the one-man-bands the
best policy seems to be leave it with your customer as domestic
waste!

Something I will generally not accept, except for tiny quantities.
Taking away the waste is part of the job. And no, I don't mind paying
for it.

Personally I'm happy to take rubbish (within reasonable limits) to the
council tip myself knowing that it avoids having to pay someone else to do
it who may well NOT actually do it, but fly tip it instead.

Tim

In article ,
says...
That's old terminology. In recent years, it has become obligatory to
refer to 'problems' as 'issues'.


And solutions. Ugh.

And "passionate". I keep seeing a van that claims to be "Passionate
about your laundry". I dunno - modern knicker-sniffers seem to have come
out of the closet.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

Skipweasel wrote:

And solutions. Ugh.

Our local supermarket has "meal solutions" written on a placard attached
to the ready meal section of the fridge. Now call me daft, but isn't
that soup?

In article , %steve%
@malloc.co.uk says...
And solutions. Ugh.

Our local supermarket has "meal solutions" written on a placard attached
to the ready meal section of the fridge. Now call me daft, but isn't
that soup?

Possibly dishwater. Or Guiness.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On 25/01/2011 20:25, chris French wrote:
In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge


Don't you believe it! You can't go to a council tip & you have to pay
every time.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 26/01/2011 12:18, Huge wrote:
On 2011-01-26, wrote:

Members of the 'schemes' (eg niceic/napit) are encouraged to have waste
disposal policies and licences. For the one-man-bands the best policy seems
to be leave it with your customer as domestic waste!

Something I will generally not accept, except for tiny quantities. Taking
away the waste is part of the job. And no, I don't mind paying for it.


Its a problem for little guys like me. £150 for the license, payment to
dump stuff & the nearest private tip is 12 miles away.

Most of my jobs involve either no, or very little waste - which I bag &
let the customer dispose of. I find 99% accept that if you explain
things in advance. Anything bigger & I have to ask the customer to get
a skip - or turn the job down.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 25/01/2011 23:18, geoff wrote:
In message , Skipweasel
writes
In article ,
says...
I don't think it as simple as that now. Personally I make sure my
waste is
disposed of legally so I will not buy a license.


Commonest way is to tell the customer it's their problem.

There are no problems, only challenges

I thought that was 'only opportunities to grow' :-)#




--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In message
Ian Jackson wrote:

In message ,
writes

http://www.environment-agency.org.uk/


I could not find a way past the hand shake picture to find
anything ;(

No problems here. Is your computer working?

Yes its the javascript.

Stephen.

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Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
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In message
Chris Wilson wrote:

wrote in :

In message
chris French wrote:

In message ,
writes

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge

That's not an unreasonable (yearly) amount if you regularly need
to dump stuff at the tip.

That's the cost for the transport licence ... not what you may be charged
at the tip.


So you pay to have a waste licence and still have to pay at the
tip.

Stephen.



--
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From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message o.uk
"Dave Liquorice" wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:23:18 GMT, wrote:

I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't easily seem
to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought someone here would
know roughly the cost.

I think the local council issues the licence so the charge will be
dependant on the council concerned.

That does makes sense though.

Thinks, I live in Cumbria but the nearest tip is in Northumberland
would a license issued by Cumbria allow me to use Northumberlands tip
if not could I get a licence from Northumbria as I'm not resident in
that county?

One of my local council tips ask you for your post code and if you
are out of the post code area they refuse you access to their tip.

Stephen.


--
http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk
From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message
"BruceB" wrote:



wrote in message ...


I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't
easily seem to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought
someone here would know roughly the cost.

********************

Fees are here
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...rs/121789.aspx
£154 to register as a waste carrier.

Charges for dumping said waste would be completely separate.

Members of the 'schemes' (eg niceic/napit) are encouraged to have waste
disposal policies and licences. For the one-man-bands the best policy seems
to be leave it with your customer as domestic waste!

Regards
Bruce

Thanks for providing the info, I couldn't find it.

Stephen.


--
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From the Wirral Peninsular.
Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce

In message , The Medway Handyman
writes
On 25/01/2011 20:25, chris French wrote:
In message ,
writes
In message
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

It was one of those roadside checks where the police pull you over
after a number plate recognition camera has checked for Tax etc ,
DVLA staff then check the vehicle, VOSA staff check for safety
issues, Customs staff check the diesel, Immigration staff check the
driver, and apparently local council staff now check for correct
licenses for waste etc.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/...ess/4376401.Pl
umber___s_anger_at_waste_licence_fine/

Jobsworth arseholes. Christ, is it any wonder these people are despised?

That's scandalous, but for curiosity how much would it cost said
plumber for a waste license?


According to the article £150 (pa i presume), he can then dump waste at
the tip for no extra charge


Don't you believe it! You can't go to a council tip & you have to pay
every time.


I suspect this is the sort of thing that varies from council to council.
I was just quoting what the council bod in the article was saying.
--
Chris French

In article ,
says...
That's the cost for the transport licence ... not what you may be charged
at the tip.


So you pay to have a waste licence and still have to pay at the
tip.


You do round here - weighbridge at the entrance and you pay for the
difference.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On 26/01/2011 17:51, wrote:
In whill.co.uk
"Dave wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:23:18 GMT, wrote:

I had a browse through the environment website but it didn't easily seem
to lead to a reference to the actual cost, I thought someone here would
know roughly the cost.

I think the local council issues the licence so the charge will be
dependant on the council concerned.

That does makes sense though.

Thinks, I live in Cumbria but the nearest tip is in Northumberland
would a license issued by Cumbria allow me to use Northumberlands tip
if not could I get a licence from Northumbria as I'm not resident in
that county?

One of my local council tips ask you for your post code and if you
are out of the post code area they refuse you access to their tip.

Stephen.


I do hope no one ever lies .... :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:12:54 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

That's old terminology. In recent years, it has become obligatory to
refer to 'problems' as 'issues'.

Argh! I hate that.

"Problems" can have solutions or work arounds.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/problem


"Issues"? WTF has that got to do with something that is faulty, out
of alignment or otherwise not preforming as expeced?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/issue

IF you have water issuing from your heat exchanger you have a problem
.... and a challenge

--
geoff

In article ,
says...
One of my local council tips ask you for your post code and if you
are out of the post code area they refuse you access to their tip.

Stephen.


I do hope no one ever lies .... :-)

Teflon and Reekin won't let trailers or commercial vehicles (even if
just a family with a Transit) into their tips without a slip. They come
in wadges of half a dozen and you have to write to them and wait a week
or so.

It's only inconvenient the first time.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

Skipweasel wrote in
:

In article ,
says...
One of my local council tips ask you for your post code and if you
are out of the post code area they refuse you access to their tip.

Stephen.


I do hope no one ever lies .... :-)

Teflon and Reekin won't let trailers or commercial vehicles (even if
just a family with a Transit) into their tips without a slip. They come
in wadges of half a dozen and you have to write to them and wait a week
or so.

It's only inconvenient the first time.

Our local council sends a little car window sticker oout with the council
tax demand that grants free entry into the local tip - prvate vehicles
cars/car+trailer and so forth only. If you loose it a new one can be
obtained free and at times will also let you in with just a proof of ID.

All things considered not a bad approach.

--

All the best,

Chris

In message , Chris Wilson
writes
Skipweasel wrote in
:

In article ,
says...
One of my local council tips ask you for your post code and if you
are out of the post code area they refuse you access to their tip.

Stephen.


I do hope no one ever lies .... :-)

Teflon and Reekin won't let trailers or commercial vehicles (even if
just a family with a Transit) into their tips without a slip. They come
in wadges of half a dozen and you have to write to them and wait a week
or so.

It's only inconvenient the first time.

Our local council sends a little car window sticker oout with the council
tax demand that grants free entry into the local tip - prvate vehicles
cars/car+trailer and so forth only. If you loose it a new one can be
obtained free and at times will also let you in with just a proof of ID.

All things considered not a bad approach.

A case of "A Local Tip for Local People"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royston_Vasey
--
Ian

In article ,
says...
A case of "A Local Tip for Local People"?


I once parked outside a row of houses waiting for a learner. There was a
bin in the layby so I emptied a few bits of litter from the car into the
bin.

A rather Linda Snellish woman came out from a house and told me in no
uncertain terms that the bin was only for the use of the residents and
they didn't want any old passer by putting their litter in it. "This bin
is for local people only."

This must have been around 1992 or 3 - well before The League of
Gentlemen.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:35:52 -0000, Skipweasel wrote:

So you pay to have a waste licence and still have to pay at the
tip.

You do round here - weighbridge at the entrance and you pay for the
difference.

And here at just under £50/tonne (inc land fill tax) for "general
waste" with a minimum load of 1.5 tonne... And it has to be one of
the three land fill sites in the county not one of the large HWRCs.

--
Cheers
Dave.