http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678


Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless driver
is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of applications in
and around the workshop and home

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out detriment to
the cell

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Too good to be true?

The Medway Handyman wrote:

Too good to be true?

They don't say how many seconds it takes to run the "battery" flat.

--
Mike Clarke

On Aug 1, 11:04*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678

Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless driver
is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of applications in
and around the workshop and home

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out detriment to
the cell

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Too good to be true?


Technically doable using supercaps. At what price & with what
performance is another question. I didnt see the price anywhere. Also
the available power will decline steadily during each discharge, and
capacity will be very small compared to NiCds.


NT

On 1 Aug, 23:14, Tabby wrote:
On Aug 1, 11:04*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-





blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678

Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless driver
is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of applications in
and around the workshop and home

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out detriment to
the cell

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Too good to be true?

Technically doable using supercaps. At what price & with what
performance is another question. I didnt see the price anywhere. Also
the available power will decline steadily during each discharge, and
capacity will be very small compared to NiCds.

NT

Capacitors have a very high leakage in comparison to batteries, so
don't expect your drill to be ready the moment you pick it up. Yes
you could charge it in 45 seconds, but how long will it take you to
find the charger, plug it in, remove the battery from the drill, plug
it into the charger.... etc., etc.

OK all that will take less than the current hour, but at least that
hour gives you a long spell of use and the tool will work when you
come back a week later.

Rob

The Medway Handyman wrote:
http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678


Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless
driver is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

A bit faster than you can think then.

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

Not the way you use tools!

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of
applications in and around the workshop and home

Not quite so high a torque as your motor-mouth.

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out
detriment to the cell

"No memory effect" - rather like you then!

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Well you would need that - it would stop you posting to ask how you can tell
when the thing is charged up.

Too good to be true?

Obviously not for you! But I suppose it has proved a reason for you to make
yet another inane post - to which I am making a rather frivolous reply *and*
I'm getting it in first this time -- FOAD!

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:12:22 +0100, Mike Clarke wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Too good to be true?

They don't say how many seconds it takes to run the "battery" flat.


The "more info" PDF reckons you get 23 "tasks" which I presume
to mean "screws" for your 45 seconds. So it sounds to me as if
it would spend as much time recharging as screwing - which is
a definite no-no. So you'd need 2 of them, but even so you'd
be constantly swapping them from in-use to charging.
Sounds like a lot of hassle when a normal NiMH or LiIon does
a good enough job and last for much longer.

--
www.thisreallyismyhost.99k.org/page1.php

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
news:_bm5o.34664$2%2.24598@hurricane...
http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678


Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless driver
is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of applications in
and around the workshop and home

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out detriment to
the cell

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Too good to be true?


There's a review here.

The main downside as compared with Li-on, at least then, seemed to be
only having half the capacity

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...adgets/4223118

there may be two pages of ads to skip

that was last October

Usually when looking for info and reviews of any consumer item on Google the first
dozen hits will be useless price comparison websites. Not with this. Its almost
impossible to find a stockist even Amazon. Although Amazon do feature mainly favourable
user reviews, from when it was in stock.

There's one US discounter -
http://www.uwantsavings.com/detail_H...rewdriver.html

selling at $30 as against a list price of $80.

Which strongly suggests there's something wrong with the tool
which only became apparent after its first few months
on the market, which a bit more googling might reveal.

One Amazon reviewer dismantled the tool to fix a faulty switch
and found faults which could lead to shorts and possible fires
(according to him, anyway). Maybe that was it.


michael adams

....

In message , Mike
Clarke wrote
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Too good to be true?

They don't say how many seconds it takes to run the "battery" flat.

The charger is only rated at 55W so the best charge will be around
12Amps for 45 seconds - it will be more like a maximum of 9 Amps for 45
seconds.

They way they deliberately don't answer the question "How long will the
tool last per charge?" suggests that the operational time is not too
long. As they are using capacitors rather than batteries I also suspect
that in use the performance will fall off quickly.

It will be one of those tools that would drive any tradesman to despair.
5 minutes use then climb back down the ladder for a 45 second recharge -
climb back up the ladder .........

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Unbeliever wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:


A bit faster than you can think then.
Not the way you use tools!
Not quite so high a torque as your motor-mouth.
"No memory effect" - rather like you then! Well you would need that - it
would stop you posting to ask how you
can tell when the thing is charged up.
Obviously not for you! But I suppose it has proved a reason for you
to make yet another inane post - to which I am making a rather
frivolous reply *and* I'm getting it in first this time -- FOAD!

Yawn

And what did your post add to the NG? **** all yet again.

If you thought it was funny - you failed yet again.

Well done. You have confirmed your place as a useless ****wit - yet again.

Whats up now? Giro late? Chalfonts playing up? Matron late with the
medication?

At least Drivel gets a laugh. Get a life.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Aug 2, 12:01*am, Alan wrote:
In message , Mike
Clarke wrote

The Medway Handyman wrote:

Too good to be true?

They don't say how many seconds it takes to run the "battery" flat.

The charger is only rated at 55W so the best charge will be around
12Amps for 45 seconds - it will be more like a maximum of 9 Amps for 45
seconds.

They way they deliberately don't answer the question "How long will the
tool last per charge?" suggests that the operational time is not too
long. *As they are using capacitors rather than batteries I also suspect
that in use the performance will fall off quickly.

It will be one of those tools that would drive any tradesman to despair.
5 minutes use then climb back down the ladder for a 45 second recharge -
climb back up the ladder .........


The mode of operation will be that every time you put the tool down
you rest it in the charger. Fine for use at ground level, but like you
say not mch use up a ladder.

10A 45 second charge, but if we can use only half of that due to
falling terminal voltage we'd get 0.055 Ah usable capacity, ie 1/24th
the capacity of your standard 1.3Ah nicad.

Anyone know the price yet?


NT

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:28:05 -0700 (PDT), Tabby wrote:
On Aug 2, 12:01Â*am, Alan wrote:
In message , Mike
Clarke wrote

The Medway Handyman wrote:

Too good to be true?

They don't say how many seconds it takes to run the "battery" flat.

The charger is only rated at 55W so the best charge will be around
12Amps for 45 seconds - it will be more like a maximum of 9 Amps for 45
seconds.

They way they deliberately don't answer the question "How long will the
tool last per charge?" suggests that the operational time is not too
long. Â*As they are using capacitors rather than batteries I also suspect
that in use the performance will fall off quickly.

It will be one of those tools that would drive any tradesman to despair.
5 minutes use then climb back down the ladder for a 45 second recharge -
climb back up the ladder .........


The mode of operation will be that every time you put the tool down
you rest it in the charger. Fine for use at ground level, but like you
say not mch use up a ladder.

That's what I thought .... but all you end up with is the limitation
of a wired driver, with the added annoyance of having to replace it in
exactly the same place each time you put it down.

10A 45 second charge, but if we can use only half of that due to
falling terminal voltage we'd get 0.055 Ah usable capacity, ie 1/24th
the capacity of your standard 1.3Ah nicad.

Anyone know the price yet?


NT


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On Aug 1, 11:58*pm, "michael adams" wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in messagenews:_bm5o.34664$2%2.24598@hurricane...



http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678

Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless driver
is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of applications in
and around the workshop and home

No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out detriment to
the cell

Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Too good to be true?

There's a review here.

The main downside as compared with Li-on, at least then, *seemed to be
only having half the capacity

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...adgets/4223118

there may be two pages of ads to skip

that was last October

Usually when looking for info and reviews of any consumer item on Google the first
dozen hits will be useless price comparison websites. Not with this. Its almost
impossible to find a stockist even Amazon. Although Amazon do feature mainly favourable
user reviews, from when it was in stock.

There's one US discounter -http://www.uwantsavings.com/detail_HDWRECMFS100__140__Coleman-5-4V-Fl...

selling at $30 as against a list price of $80.

Which strongly suggests there's something wrong with the tool
which only became apparent after its first few months
on the market, which a bit more googling might reveal.

One Amazon reviewer dismantled the tool to fix a faulty switch
and found faults which could lead to shorts and possible fires
(according to him, anyway). Maybe that was it.

michael adams


Maybe it just doesnt match user expectations. The declining terminal
voltage is going to be a real issue in that respect

Thing is, its competing against low end screwdrivers, which cost
£5-10, yet the price tag was equivalent to a full featured cordless
drill.

FWIW its quite doable to convert a regular cordless drill into a
machine that works like this, using an expired battery pack with
contacts on it and making a cradle for the thing.


NT

On Aug 1, 11:39*pm, "Unbeliever" wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?m...oducts&pid=678

Super Fast Charging System
Using amazing FLASHCELL Technology, in just 45seconds this cordless
driver is fully charged from dead flat and ready to go

A bit faster than you can think then.

But still faster than yourown "dead flat" to "ready to go" time, even
with Viagra.


500,000 Charge Cycles
Provides many years of service compared to Ni-Cads which offer 500-100
cycle/charges

Not the way you use tools!

Do you get much use from yours?


High Torque
With 4.5Nm of torque, this tool is ideal for a wide range of
applications in and around the workshop and home

Not quite so high a torque as your motor-mouth.

Your wrist is even higher torque, honed over many years of use.


No Memory Effect
It will accept partial charges between full charges with out
detriment to the cell

"No memory effect" - rather like you then!

CAn you remember the last time?


Charge Indicator
Shows at a glance the charge and charging condition of the cells

Well you would need that - it would stop you posting to ask how you can tell
when the thing is charged up.

Doesn't it say on the packet?


Too good to be true?

Obviously not for you! *But I suppose it has proved a reason for you to make
yet another inane post - to which I am making a rather frivolous reply *and*
I'm getting it in first this time

That will be a first!

On Aug 2, 11:38*am, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/08/2010 00:12, The Medway Handyman wrote:

And what did your post add to the NG? ***** all yet again.

Dave, Have you spurned his romantic advances or something?

He does seem rather like a love sick obsessive trying to find a way to
express his true feelings!

I've tried to work out where the friction started between TMH and
Un********. Probably a lack of WD40 ;-)
Seems to know everything about DIY as he never asks any questions!