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Last year, I painted the shed with some shed and fence paint from the local
builders merchants. I applied 3 coats. After the winter, most had washed off. It must have been really crap stuff. I am now toying with the idea of painting the shed with gloss paint. Afterall, we used to use it on wooden door and window frames. People have told me that I can't do that because I have now used the other crap stuff. I thought, if I give the shed a sand down with some rough sand paper to give it a key, it should be ok. What do you think.....? Jim |
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Last year, I painted the shed with some shed and fence paint from the local builders merchants. I applied 3 coats. After the winter, most had washed off. It must have been really crap stuff. these shed and fence paints are usually water based, that is to say they are wood preserver disolved in water, once the water evapourates, the wood preserver is left behind, the colourant is also usually water based and this will 'wash off' but the preservative won't I am now toying with the idea of painting the shed with gloss paint. Afterall, we used to use it on wooden door and window frames. People have told me that I can't do that because I have now used the other crap stuff. I thought, if I give the shed a sand down with some rough sand paper to give it a key, it should be ok. What do you think.....? The preservative won't affect any gloss paint you decide to use over the top, but if it's decorative properties you are looking for rather than protection, why not use a better quality shed/fence paint? -- Phil L RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008 |
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Phil L wrote:
the_constructor wrote: Last year, I painted the shed with some shed and fence paint from the local builders merchants. I applied 3 coats. After the winter, most had washed off. It must have been really crap stuff. these shed and fence paints are usually water based, that is to say they are wood preserver disolved in water, once the water evapourates, the wood preserver is left behind, the colourant is also usually water based and this will 'wash off' but the preservative won't It depends... Some of the wood preservatives contain waxes to make water run off the surface. If the preservative was one of the wax based ones then painting over it can be difficult because the gloss paint won't adhere to the wood. It needs rubbing down and priming and possibly an undercoat (depending on primer) not just a top coat. An acrylic primer/undercoat which is also water based might well work. A few decades ago I would have used "Ranch Paint" which was excellent stuff for sheds and fences but I don't know if it is still available. |
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![]() "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Phil L wrote: the_constructor wrote: Last year, I painted the shed with some shed and fence paint from the local builders merchants. I applied 3 coats. After the winter, most had washed off. It must have been really crap stuff. these shed and fence paints are usually water based, that is to say they are wood preserver disolved in water, once the water evapourates, the wood preserver is left behind, the colourant is also usually water based and this will 'wash off' but the preservative won't It depends... Some of the wood preservatives contain waxes to make water run off the surface. If the preservative was one of the wax based ones then painting over it can be difficult because the gloss paint won't adhere to the wood. It needs rubbing down and priming and possibly an undercoat (depending on primer) not just a top coat. An acrylic primer/undercoat which is also water based might well work. A few decades ago I would have used "Ranch Paint" which was excellent stuff for sheds and fences but I don't know if it is still available. I would have used creosote but it was banned a few years go, unfortunately Jim |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:45:06 +0100, "the_constructor"
wrote: I would have used creosote but it was banned a few years go, unfortunately Jim I bought a 20 litre drum of it on Friday. (for my farm, of course) ;-) -- Frank Erskine |
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![]() "Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:45:06 +0100, "the_constructor" wrote: I would have used creosote but it was banned a few years go, unfortunately Jim I bought a 20 litre drum of it on Friday. (for my farm, of course) ;-) -- Frank Erskine Thought they banned it because it was carcinogenic ? Jim |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:32:41 +0100, Frank Erskine
wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:45:06 +0100, "the_constructor" wrote: I would have used creosote but it was banned a few years go, unfortunately Jim I bought a 20 litre drum of it on Friday. (for my farm, of course) ;-) A funny one ? Derek |
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Last year, I painted the shed with some shed and fence paint from the local builders merchants. I applied 3 coats. After the winter, most had washed off. It must have been really crap stuff. I would have used creosote but it was banned a few years go, unfortunately Jim almost as good http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p14250 definitely a better idea then a modern gloss paint. \0 |
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