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We need an ANTI-CHAV party
We need an anti-Chav party.
The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. |
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On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote:
We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. |
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On 06/05/2010 13:47, Archon wrote:
On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. I live in one of Essex's numerous villages. Just got back from a little walk across the village green to sit by the duckpond for a while. Apart from a few students from the local well known agricultural college the vast majority of folks looked to be over 70 and not very chav like. |
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"Invisible Man" wrote in message ... On 06/05/2010 13:47, Archon wrote: On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. I live in one of Essex's numerous villages. Just got back from a little walk across the village green to sit by the duckpond for a while. Apart from a few students from the local well known agricultural college the vast majority of folks looked to be over 70 and not very chav like. You wait until they move in !!! Tattoos,bald heads and bull terriers everywhere. |
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Doctor Drivel
wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? I am banned from Essex, as not being a Chav. Where you on the banning committee? |
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On 06/05/2010 16:37, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? I am banned from Essex, as not being a Chav. Where you on the banning committee? More likely banned because you cannot spell were! We are fussy who we allow into Constable country. |
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Doctor Drivel
wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 16:37 "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? I am banned from Essex, as not being a Chav. Where you on the banning committee? No, I was on the "Committee banning people who use speedfit from buying hacksaws" when your name came up... -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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"Invisible Man" wrote in message ... On 06/05/2010 16:37, Doctor Drivel wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? I am banned from Essex, as not being a Chav. Where you on the banning committee? More likely banned because you cannot spell were! We are fussy who we allow into Constable country. All the tinkers should be sent to Essex and not allowed out. They deserve each other. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 16:37 "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Thursday 06 May 2010 13:42 We need an anti-Chav party. I'm all for it - when are you banned? I am banned from Essex, as not being a Chav. Where you on the banning committee? No, I was on the "Committee banning people who use speedfit from buying hacksaws" when your name came up... Do you put Speedfit ovens? |
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writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot -- geoff |
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In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot I wonder is Dribble is going to end up so disappointed that his valiant efforts to get Nulabor back in power has led to much increased Tory support that he tops himself. |
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Roger Chapman wrote: I wonder is Dribble is going to end up so disappointed that his valiant efforts to get Nulabor back in power has led to much increased Tory support that he tops himself. With a hacksaw? -- *If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, The Tory filth are not in power. That is a very good thing for now. We shall be grateful we do not have a Thatcher in new clothes with ultimate power to f**k up the country again. I like the idea on a Lib-Lab pact. PR and Brown in charge of the economy...and the Tories out and probably out for a long time, and hopefully for ever, if PR is implemented. If the Tories offer PR that will be a shock and probably secures their decline as a major sweeping power government again. Editor of the Tory Spectator, said the Tories want nothing to do with the LibDems and have no prior plans to deal with them. Brown did have contingency plans. We shall see. The Tories see that there will be another election in a year and the government will have to do very unpopular things up to then. I got the impression that they will let the Lab-Libs form a pact and try again in a year. Maxie, we shall see. Mine was a target seat for the Tory filth, which looked like going Tory. I voted tactically, for Labour, and it worked, Labour stayed in charge. Fantastic Maxie, truely fantasic. The Tories were shocked and the Tory candidate would not speak after. The local MP is very good and active. So I am delighted, who also understands the diverse and ethnic communities in the seat. The LibDem effect got the Tories in by mistake, when the Lib and Lab vote was split in Ealing. We feared that but the Labour vote held by me. If a Lib-Lab pact then I am delighted. Our local got in and the Tories out and PR as well. But not certain yet. Fingers crossed, and we hope God is on the side of the good. We really need STABILITY and Brown in charge of the economy, not some Hooray Henry private school goons who all go to a few schools. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, It is still Gordon Brown, Prime Minister. He is still in 10 Downing Street. His arse is still in the seat. Fantastic Maxie! I'm sure you will be dancing a jig with your turned down wellies and donkey jacket on. You are a breath of fresh air Maxie. What a man. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
snip From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, The Tory filth are not in power. That is a very good thing for now. We shall be grateful we do not have a Thatcher in new clothes with ultimate power to f**k up the country again. Well the Tories under Camerom got as big a swing as Thatcher did back in 1979 and have achieved a bigger share in the vote than B.Liar got last time around but without achieving the large majority in the house that electoral bias gave to Labour. I like the idea on a Lib-Lab pact. PR and Brown in charge of the economy...and the Tories out and probably out for a long time, and hopefully for ever, if PR is implemented. A Lib-Lab pact doesn't seem on the cards. The two parties on their own can't command a majority. It seems theoretically possible for Brown to gain a majority by sweeping up most of the political fringe in addition to the Lib Dems but that seems impractical to me. Cameron OTOH has a better chance of achieving a majority without the Lib Dems than Brown has with them. If the Tories offer PR that will be a shock and probably secures their decline as a major sweeping power government again. The form of PR on offer by NuLabor would be a poisoned chalice even to the Lib Dems. The practical effect would be to entrench the voting bias in favour of Labour and switch Lib Dems to main opposition in place of the Tories. Editor of the Tory Spectator, said the Tories want nothing to do with the LibDems and have no prior plans to deal with them. Brown did have contingency plans. Brown is still desperate to hang on to power. We shall see. The Tories see that there will be another election in a year and the government will have to do very unpopular things up to then. I got the impression that they will let the Lab-Libs form a pact and try again in a year. Maxie, we shall see. The Government will have to do a lot of very unpopular things over much longer than just a yet but despite that Cameron seems set on trying to be unpopular all on his own. Mine was a target seat for the Tory filth, which looked like going Tory. I voted tactically, for Labour, and it worked, Labour stayed in charge. Fantastic Maxie, truely fantasic. The Tories were shocked and the Tory candidate would not speak after. The local MP is very good and active. So I am delighted, who also understands the diverse and ethnic communities in the seat. The LibDem effect got the Tories in by mistake, when the Lib and Lab vote was split in Ealing. We feared that but the Labour vote held by me. If a Lib-Lab pact then I am delighted. Our local got in and the Tories out and PR as well. But not certain yet. Sounds as if Dribble lives in one of the Ealing Constituencies. None of the results really fit Dribble's description but if Dribble lives there he must vote in Ealing North. Very peculiar constituency that with an 0.4 swing to Labour. Fingers crossed, and we hope God is on the side of the good. Which God would that be? We really need STABILITY and Brown in charge of the economy, not some Hooray Henry private school goons who all go to a few schools. It looks very much as if Ashcroft's millions have bought Cameron sufficient votes to allow him to form a Government of some kind. Given that buying votes is illegal let us hope that Ashcroft is incarcerated in the Tower for the rest of his natural. Overall the minor results are mixed, some good (BNP and UKIP failed to shine) and some bad (Tories got Wyre Forest back and the loonie left now have a seat in Brighton). |
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wibbled on Friday 07 May 2010 13:06 I like the idea on a Lib-Lab pact. PR and Brown in charge of the economy...and the Tories out and probably out for a long time, and hopefully for ever, if PR is implemented. I don't and if Cameron and Clegg have any sense, there won't be one. Brown shouldn't be let near a savings account let alone the economy. "Prudence" my ****. -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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"Roger Chapman" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wrote: snip From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, The Tory filth are not in power. That is a very good thing for now. We shall be grateful we do not have a Thatcher in new clothes with ultimate power to f**k up the country again. Well the Tories under Camerom He is not in power as I write. I like the idea on a Lib-Lab pact. PR and Brown in charge of the economy...and the Tories out and probably out for a long time, and hopefully for ever, if PR is implemented. A Lib-Lab pact doesn't seem on the cards. It does. If the Tories offer PR that will be a shock and probably secures their decline as a major sweeping power government again. The form of PR snip drivel Editor of the Tory Spectator, said the Tories want nothing to do with the LibDems and have no prior plans to deal with them. Brown did have contingency plans. Brown is still desperate to hang on to power. For the sake of the nation. No Thatcher in new clothes. We shall see. The Tories see that there will be another election in a year and the government will have to do very unpopular things up to then. I got the impression that they will let the Lab-Libs form a pact and try again in a year. Maxie, we shall see. The Government will have to do a lot of very unpopular things over much longer than just a yet but despite that Cameron seems set on trying to be unpopular all on his own. He unpopular as most never voted for the him. He is boring. Mine was a target seat for the Tory filth, which looked like going Tory. I voted tactically, for Labour, and it worked, Labour stayed in charge. Fantastic Maxie, truely fantasic. The Tories were shocked and the Tory candidate would not speak after. The local MP is very good and active. So I am delighted, who also understands the diverse and ethnic communities in the seat. The LibDem effect got the Tories in by mistake, when the Lib and Lab vote was split in Ealing. We feared that but the Labour vote held by me. If a Lib-Lab pact then I am delighted. Our local got in and the Tories out and PR as well. But not certain yet. Sounds snip drivel Fingers crossed, and we hope God is on the side of the good. Which God would that be? The one on the side of the good. We really need STABILITY and Brown in charge of the economy, not some Hooray Henry private school goons who all go to a few schools. It looks very much as if Ashcroft's millions have bought Cameron sufficient votes to allow him to form a Government of some kind. Given that buying votes is illegal let us hope that Ashcroft is incarcerated in the Tower for the rest of his natural. Overall the minor results are mixed, some good (BNP and UKIP failed to shine) and some bad (Tories got Wyre Forest back and the loonie left now have a seat in Brighton). The Greens are loony left? My oh my! But you do come from Essex. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Friday 07 May 2010 13:06 I like the idea on a Lib-Lab pact. PR and Brown in charge of the economy...and the Tories out and probably out for a long time, and hopefully for ever, if PR is implemented. I don't snip drivel |
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Doctor Drivel
wibbled on Friday 07 May 2010 15:39 snip drivel Excellent idea - hopefully before you produce any offspring! -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wrote: Tory filth It's snip drivel |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Doctor Drivel wibbled on Friday 07 May 2010 15:39 snip drivel Excellent snip drivel |
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Tim Streater wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote: Tory filth It's stuff like this that makes Labour beneath contempt. And if Cleggy plays his cards right, beneath the ground in a few years too. |
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writes geoff wrote: In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot I wonder is Dribble is going to end up so disappointed that his valiant efforts to get Nulabor back in power has led to much increased Tory support that he tops himself. Surely - he's fail -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Chapman writes geoff wrote: In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot I wonder is Dribble is going to end up so disappointed that his valiant efforts to get Nulabor back in power has led to much increased Tory support that he tops himself. Surely - he's fail Maxie, I am an anti-Tory, who are known filth. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Tim Streater wrote: Doctor Drivel wrote: Tory filth It's stuff like this that makes Labour beneath contempt. And if Cleggy plays his cards right, beneath the ground in a few years too. Yep, Clegg get PR and the Tories are dead from then on in. |
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
... "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, It is still Gordon Brown, Prime Minister. He is still in 10 Downing Street. His arse is still in the seat. Sorry, what did you say? |
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"Grumps" wrote in message ... "Doctor Drivel" wrote in message ... "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, It is still Gordon Brown, Prime Minister. He is still in 10 Downing Street. His arse is still in the seat. Sorry, what did you say? He walked out. He could still been in the seat. |
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"Grumps" wrote in message ... "Doctor Drivel" wrote in message ... "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, It is still Gordon Brown, Prime Minister. He is still in 10 Downing Street. His arse is still in the seat. Sorry, what did you say? When you have just lost seats and many of your policies enjoy no popular mandate - from support to the Euro to getting rid of nuclear weapons, - you should show a modicum of humility. The former Home Secretary, and Clegg's fellow Sheffield MP, David Blunkett, described the process rather less prosaically, by liking the Liberal Democrats to harlots selling themselves to the highest bidder. Voters who voted Lib Dem to keep the Conservatives out will feel betrayed as will those who believed their votes would lead to the Lib-Lab Progressive Politics favoured by The Guardian and The Independent leader writers. Failure during the election campaign to lay before the electorate what would be the terms of a Liberal-Conservative or Lib-Lab Coalition left the electorate voting for a question mark. Nick Clegg's lack of clarity during the campaign also led to a leaching away of votes. |
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On 12/05/2010 01:11, Doctor Drivel wrote:
The usual nonsense. I wonder if the Sun will come out with the headline: "It was Dribble that lost it for Labour" |
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Roger Chapman wrote:
On 12/05/2010 01:11, Doctor Drivel wrote: The usual nonsense. I wonder if the Sun will come out with the headline: "It was Dribble that lost it for Labour" Gordon, Dribbles as Labour lose it? I forgot. Who is Gordon? I've forgotten already. |
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On 12/05/2010 12:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/05/2010 01:11, Doctor Drivel wrote: The usual nonsense. I wonder if the Sun will come out with the headline: "It was Dribble that lost it for Labour" Gordon, Dribbles as Labour lose it? I forgot. Who is Gordon? I've forgotten already. Oh you want a hint. What about 'Khartoum'? |
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On 11/05/2010 20:08, Grumps wrote: "Doctor wrote in message ... wrote in message ... In , Archon writes On 5/6/2010 8:42 AM, Doctor Drivel wrote: We need an anti-Chav party. The first thing it should do is fence off Essex. I am all for it. That comment is Essexist, Nuliebor will put you away for that. From the exit poll, it looks like Labour of whatever flavour won't be doing an awful lot Maxie, It is still Gordon Brown, Prime Minister. He is still in 10 Downing Street. His arse is still in the seat. Sorry, what did you say? He can't remember, so he will quote a bit of David Alton for you and pretend he has suddenly acquired an ability to write in coherent English. Who is Gordon Brown? I've forgotten. |
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"Roger Chapman" wrote in message ... On 12/05/2010 01:11, Doctor Drivel wrote: The usual This man is from Essex you know. |
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The Tories HATE Proportional Representation
They know this warped first past the post system can keep a party in power with sweeping powers. The appalling system we have has meant the most hated party in the UK, after the BNP, the Tories, who are hated with a passion in some parts of the UK, have got into power using sweeping unopposed powers on the majority who did not want them there. Look at the DAMAGE Thatcher did. The most Thatcher ever had was 43% of the vote yet caused carnage. She would not be allowed to do that with a full PR system. Labour Introduced PR Labour introduced PR in the Euro and Nationalist elections. They are not anti-PR as the Tories are. The Labour party has been committed to reform since the 1997 manifesto which pledged them to "recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system". While alternatives to first-past-the-post have been introduced for elections to the devolved administrations, the European Parliament and London Assembly. The Labour Party tried to introduce legislation that would require a referendum to be held by October 2011 in the Constitutional Reform and Governance Bill. However, this was dropped from the bill during the pre-election rush to get stuff through Parliament because of Conservative opposition. The Tories scupper it again. And they will as much to do the same to PR at every opportunity. The Tories WILL CAMPAIGN AGAINST PR The Tories say they will give a referendum for PR - BUT WILL CAMPAIGN AGAINST IT. The Lib Dems have missed the chance to virtually guarantee PR by going with Labour - their Holy Grail they have sought for 80 years. Now it is very iffy. Minutes before Brown was to make his departing speech senior Liberals were pleading with them to go with Labour. The SNP said they would go with a Lib-Lab Progressive Alliance. Labour COULD STILL HAVE BEEN IN POWER. All they had to do was phone the Lib Dems and offer the same package of cabinet seats, but Labour had the magic key of PR legislation, which would have tempted them over. Labour butted out and did not want to be in the bidding for the services of a harlet. Labour departed with dignity - the only winners. The Lib Dems Could Have Guaranteed PR They should have went for the guaranteed PR from Labour not a wishy-washy promise. And had a Progressive Alliance with Labour - two left of centre parties. Ashdown and Campbell could see that and were furious about the deal with the Tories. Ashdown has disappeared and not been on TV he is so annoyed. Lib Dems Were Degrading. It was degrading what the Lib Dems did. The Lib Dems sold out for ministerial cars to satisfy their egos. The Lib Dems sold their souls and betrayed millions. The millions who voted to keep out the Tories and for a Lib-Lab Progressive Alliance. They then jump in bed with the hated Tories. The guaranteed window of opportunity to change British politics has been ignored for ego and a ministerial car. |
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On 13/05/10 18:59, Doctor Drivel wrote:
Labour departed with dignity - the only winners. Hmm - excellent definition of "winning". But I agree Brown was dignified in his resignation (both timing and action), but so was Cameron in his speech. Clegg has been wheeling and dealing like a ******* out of necessity but I think it's worked out with a reasonable outcome. Time will tell. I expect we'll all hate them in a term or two - seems to be the norm... Then you'll be telling us to vote Cameron when everyone else is wondering if Miliband is any good :- -- Tim Watts Hung parliament? Rather have a hanged parliament. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 13/05/10 18:59, Doctor Drivel wrote: Labour departed with dignity - the only winners. Hmm - excellent definition of "winning". But I agree Brown was dignified in his resignation (both timing and action), but so was Cameron in his speech. Clegg has been wheeling and dealing like a ******* out of necessity but I think it's worked out with a reasonable outcome. Time will tell. Labour could have been in power right now. At 1:00 pm they announced the dealings are closed. Labour knew what the Tories were offering. Clegg rang Brown, The Guardian took pictures, and at that point Labour could have matched what the Tories were offering - but Labour were also offering "legislation" advanced PR as well; the bate. Clegg was under pressure to go with Labour by the party elders. It was in Labours hands at the time of the phone call. Brown would not lower into bidding for a whore. When he walked out of No. 10, the Lib-Con deal had not been finalised, it could have fellen through at the last minutes. Brown said enough is enough and forced the issue by going to the palace. I expect we'll all hate them in a term or two - seems to be the norm... Then you'll be telling us to vote Cameron when everyone else is wondering if Miliband is any good :- The Tories have to do what they promised, otherwise the Lib Dems are out and they bring down the Tories. Expect the Labour Party to re-group big time. They will be armed as they make mistakes. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 13/05/10 18:59, Doctor Drivel wrote: Labour departed with dignity - the only winners. Hmm - excellent definition of "winning". No one won the election. All lost. Some lost less than others. Like those in mid-table at the end of the football season. They did not win the title, but never lost as they were not relegated. It is like Stoke City, Fulham and Sunderland arguing who was best in the league this season. Only a few points apart yet some scored more goals and some had better goal difference. Rather petty to argue about pedantic details in mid-table. Labour never lost in that they could have been in power if they wanted to - but at a price. The price to them was not worth it. The Tories were prepared to pay that price. In the sordid shameless dealings Labour won. The Tories did not implement what they wanted - they mainly represent the top 5-10% of the population and their gift to them, inheritance tax, was not delivered, as was many others. You could say they partially lost. Why Brown always kept his two little boys out of the limelight is beyond me - the two little beauties would have raised his profile no end. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:14:24 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: Labour could have been in power right now. At 1:00 pm they announced the dealings are closed. Labour knew what the Tories were offering. Clegg rang Brown, The Guardian took pictures, and at that point Labour could have matched what the Tories were offering - but Labour were also offering "legislation" advanced PR as well; the bate. Clegg was under pressure to go with Labour by the party elders. It was in Labours hands at the time of the phone call. Brown would not lower into bidding for a whore. When he walked out of No. 10, the Lib-Con deal had not been finalised, it could have fellen through at the last minutes. Brown said enough is enough and forced the issue by going to the palace. Complete and utter twaddle. |
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Bruce wrote in
: On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:14:24 +0100, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: Labour could have been in power right now. At 1:00 pm they announced the dealings are closed. Labour knew what the Tories were offering. Clegg rang Brown, The Guardian took pictures, and at that point Labour could have matched what the Tories were offering - but Labour were also offering "legislation" advanced PR as well; the bate. Clegg was under pressure to go with Labour by the party elders. It was in Labours hands at the time of the phone call. Brown would not lower into bidding for a whore. When he walked out of No. 10, the Lib-Con deal had not been finalised, it could have fellen through at the last minutes. Brown said enough is enough and forced the issue by going to the palace. Complete and utter twaddle. Did you really expect anything different? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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