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Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to
water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen |
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On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote:
Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK |
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On 17 Apr, 13:09, JimK wrote:
On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK sorry to be a thicko but i don't understand what 3 bar means, |
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On 17 Apr, 13:59, bob wrote:
On 17 Apr, 13:09, JimK wrote: On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK sorry to be a thicko but i don't understand what 3 bar means, it will be written on the pumps google is your friend........... |
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bob wrote:
On 17 Apr, 13:09, JimK wrote: On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK sorry to be a thicko but i don't understand what 3 bar means, Metric measure of pressure. 1 bar = 14.5 p.s.i. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 13:59 On 17 Apr, 13:09, JimK wrote: On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK sorry to be a thicko but i don't understand what 3 bar means, Pressure - 1 Atmosphere is more or less 1 bar. Remember when weather forcasts said "it is 1008 millibars over London tonight..."? -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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bob wrote:
On 17 Apr, 13:09, JimK wrote: On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK sorry to be a thicko but i don't understand what 3 bar means, Three times atmospheric pressure. Personally I would double that. Six bar will provide a decent squirt out of the hose. R |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:00:06 +1200, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
Three times atmospheric pressure. Personally I would double that. Six bar will provide a decent squirt out of the hose. The OP wants to water his plants not pressure wash 'em. B-) Our outside tap has less than 30' head (approx 1 bar) and is fed by a long and complex bit of 15mm pipe. It's flow/pressure is only just too low. Something around 2 or 3 bar would be fine. -- Cheers Dave. |
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wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 13:09 On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK From when I was testing my house supply, the most you'll get through a 1/2" hose is about 15-20 l/min at 4-5 bar (I used a hose to test the drains I'd constructed). 55l/m is what I get through the 1/2" supply pipe at 7.5 bar -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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On 17 Apr, 14:54, Tim Watts wrote:
JimK wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 13:09 On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK From when I was testing my house supply, the most you'll get through a 1/2" hose is about 15-20 l/min at 4-5 bar (I used a hose to test the drains I'd constructed). spose it depends on how long/convoluted your hose is? pressure vs flow etc 55l/m is what I get through the 1/2" supply pipe at 7.5 bar aye, 50l/min was what my pump was sized for to backwash a pH filter through 1" pipework. Through the taps of course I don't see that throughput (thankfully for hot water!!) CHeers JimK |
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wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 15:50 On 17 Apr, 14:54, Tim Watts wrote: JimK wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 13:09 On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK From when I was testing my house supply, the most you'll get through a 1/2" hose is about 15-20 l/min at 4-5 bar (I used a hose to test the drains I'd constructed). spose it depends on how long/convoluted your hose is? pressure vs flow etc Of course This was "typical smooth bore garden hose" in a "typical garden hose length". I had to use 3 hoses all tapped off 22mm pipe to get the full flow of 50+l/min (I was testing a sink, dishwasher and washing machine drain point I'd just laid in, all fed off the same 50mm waste pipe, to make sure I couldn't overload them or their u-traps. 55l/m is what I get through the 1/2" supply pipe at 7.5 bar aye, 50l/min was what my pump was sized for to backwash a pH filter through 1" pipework. Through the taps of course I don't see that throughput (thankfully for hot water!!) CHeers JimK -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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On 17 Apr, 17:02, Tim Watts wrote:
JimK wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 15:50 On 17 Apr, 14:54, Tim Watts wrote: JimK wibbled on Saturday 17 April 2010 13:09 On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) JimK From when I was testing my house supply, the most you'll get through a 1/2" hose is about 15-20 l/min at 4-5 bar (I used a hose to test the drains I'd constructed). spose it depends on how long/convoluted your hose is? pressure vs flow etc Of course This was "typical smooth bore garden hose" in a "typical garden hose length". I had to use 3 hoses all tapped off 22mm pipe to get the full flow of 50+l/min (I was testing a sink, dishwasher and washing machine drain point I'd just laid in, all fed off the same 50mm waste pipe, to make sure I couldn't overload them or their u-traps. FX whistle through teeth /FX 50 l/min thru 22mm AND 3 hose pipe adaptors?? :) Cheers JimK |
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:09:26 -0700, JimK wrote:
On 17 Apr, 12:51, bob wrote: Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 3 bar 50litre/min should be ample (I have one in my domestic H&C system) If we're talking allotments then a skip-grade CH circulator (aka central heating pump) would do nicely. Keep skip-diving for replacements when they eventually pack up. Or ask a friendly plumbing & heating installer for old but working ones taken out when they replace boilers. -- John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk Thesaurus: extinct reptile noted for its wide vocabulary. |
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"bob" wrote in message ... Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen Biggest fiddle might be making connection to the container. Assuming the pump and genny are next to the container, and you don't have more than about 30 metres of hose something like this should be fine http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLARKE-ELECTRI...item58872cecc4 |
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bob wrote:
Good afternoon,i have a 1000ltr ibc full of rainwater and i want to water my allotment but the pressure from the hose is pitifull,i do have a generator which is a honda driven which says 220 on the side.Can anyone advise on what size water pump i should buy to be able to get a reasonable pressure?,as always,tiagonsesen 220 volts. That tells you nothing about the power output. How big is the motor? Can you estimate the horsepower and/or wattage? 750 watts is equivalent to one horsepower. You will not get much more than 60% of the motor power converted to water power. You should be able to buy a single stage radial flow pump that will operate on single phase power. Radial flow pumps will give more pressure and less flow while axial flow pumps give more flow at less pressure. R |
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