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Need to replace my ageing Panasonic. Need a portable tough high power
unit with washable bags and filters, and suitable for car, motorhome,
and stairs and corbners..all the places a beat and vac wont reach...

is there anything better than a Henry?

Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..
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Need to replace my ageing Panasonic. Need a portable tough high power
unit with washable bags and filters, and suitable for car, motorhome,
and stairs and corbners..all the places a beat and vac wont reach...

is there anything better than a Henry?

Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and
practical..


Corbners? Loved it; it beats some of your other occasional typos!

Should it have been cworbners? I.e. corners full of webs?

In fun.


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On 7 Apr, 22:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
is there anything better than a Henry?


For sensible money? Ron, the steel cased Henry (aka the NVQ250,
AFAIR).
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is there anything better than a Henry?
Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..


One of the commercial Henry (Numatic) equivalents with 'structofoam'
or metal buckets?

Owain



Mmm but the numatics are all bagged aren't they?

I want a reusable bag, not a throwaway paper sort.
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is there anything better than a Henry?
Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..


One of the commercial Henry (Numatic) equivalents with 'structofoam'
or metal buckets?

Owain



Mmm but the numatics are all bagged aren't they?

I want a reusable bag, not a throwaway paper sort.


Do what all the builders do then.........Don't use the bag




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Owain wrote:
On 7 Apr, 22:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
is there anything better than a Henry?
Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical...


One of the commercial Henry (Numatic) equivalents with 'structofoam'
or metal buckets?


Owain


Mmm but the numatics are all bagged aren't they?

I want a reusable bag, not a throwaway paper sort.


There is a (third party?) reusable zipped bag available for the Henry.
I have one myself.

Google for 'Henry cloth bag washable' or similar. About a tenner.

Our 'diy-specific' Henry gets light use, so I can only say that it
basically works.

HTH
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:22:16 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
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On 7 Apr, 22:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
is there anything better than a Henry?


For sensible money? Ron, the steel cased Henry (aka the NVQ250,
AFAIR).



What? There's an NVQ in using a vacuum cleaner?

Whatever next? An honours degree in watching paint dry?

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wibbled on Wednesday 07 April 2010 22:50

Need to replace my ageing Panasonic. Need a portable tough high power
unit with washable bags and filters, and suitable for car, motorhome,
and stairs and corbners..all the places a beat and vac wont reach...

is there anything better than a Henry?


Maybe I've been unlucky but IME everything is better than a Henry. I've used
2 (parents and work) and never been impressed by their suction.

Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..


*Ignoring your requirement for washable bags*:

For kick-arse and indestructible with extremely good suction, an older style
on-end-cylinder VAX is powerful and takes abuse well.

For purely the house and car, my Miele Revolution 4 is the most powerful
(more than the VAX) hoover I've ever touched and not one speck of dust (even
ash from around the fire) gets out the exhaust after the 3 filters (bag
counts as filter).

Bags are small and best bought online, but for a house with carpets I was
changing the bag perhaps 2-3 times per year so it didn't work out as much of
a running cost. The powered beater head is as good as most uprights. There's
a nice car-kit that has the smaller widgets suited to getting into awkward
places though you can survive without it.

A head for your solid floors will cost extra but not much.

HTH

Tim

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On 08/04/2010 08:16 Cicero wrote:

Have a look at the Earlex CombiVac:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...dry-vac-blower

Paradoxically, this is actually a bagless cleaner despite the fact that it
uses paper filters which look like bags.


And Wickes do washable filters for it (they also do their own badged
version at a generally lower price which can be got down even more
through Quidco/TopCashBack and/or voucher codes).

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And Wickes do washable filters for it


Just to be clear: you only need to buy one.

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On 8 Apr, 08:16, Cicero wrote:
Have a look at the Earlex CombiVac:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...0-combi-vac-we...


Good workshop vac (I've got two, one running a cyclone) but noisy and
top heavy for pulling around the house.

Paradoxically, this is actually a bagless cleaner despite the fact that it
uses paper filters which look like bags.


I never found the paper bags much use, so upgraded to the pleated
filter. One of them (the plaster catcher) is now running a home-made
filter out of some glass fibre(?) industrial filter fabric that's
resistant to getting coated in damp lime. Previously the paper filter
seemed to suffer badly whenever it was used on building materials and
got at all damp afterwards.
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On 8 Apr, 08:41, Tim Watts wrote:
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* wibbled on Wednesday 07 April 2010 22:50

Need to replace my ageing Panasonic. Need a portable tough high power
unit *with washable bags and filters, and suitable for car, motorhome,
and stairs and corbners..all the places a beat and vac wont reach...


is there anything better than a Henry?


Maybe I've been unlucky but IME everything is better than a Henry. I've used
2 (parents and work) and never been impressed by their suction



Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical...


*Ignoring your requirement for washable bags*:

For kick-arse and indestructible with extremely good suction, an older style
on-end-cylinder VAX is powerful and takes abuse well.

For purely the house and car, my Miele Revolution 4 is the most powerful
(more than the VAX) hoover I've ever touched and not one speck of dust (even
ash from around the fire) *gets out the exhaust after the 3 filters (bag
counts as filter).


The filtration on a Miele is excellent, the bag compartment never has
dust in it. Like you said the suction on a Miele is very powerful,
unlike some other vacuums it doesn't drop much at all even when the
bag is full.


Bags are small and best bought online, but for a house with carpets I was
changing the bag perhaps 2-3 times per year so it didn't work out as much of
a running cost. The powered beater head is as good as most uprights. There's
a nice car-kit that has the smaller widgets suited to getting into awkward
places though you can survive without it.

A head for your solid floors will cost extra but not much.

HTH

Tim

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Owain wrote:
On 7 Apr, 22:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
is there anything better than a Henry?
Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..
One of the commercial Henry (Numatic) equivalents with 'structofoam'
or metal buckets?

Owain



Mmm but the numatics are all bagged aren't they?

I want a reusable bag, not a throwaway paper sort.


Do what all the builders do then.........Don't use the bag


Does that work? where does the crap end up?
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Me Here wrote:
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Owain wrote:
On 7 Apr, 22:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
is there anything better than a Henry?
Don't want overstyled plasticky crap. Tough and powerful and practical..
One of the commercial Henry (Numatic) equivalents with 'structofoam'
or metal buckets?


Owain


Mmm but the numatics are all bagged aren't they?


I want a reusable bag, not a throwaway paper sort.


Do what all the builders do then.........Don't use the bag


Does that work? where does the crap end up?


My Grandad has used his George like that, the result is the dirt more
easily escapes making people cough, sneeze etc.
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