Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals from
them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down and work
out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the degreaser they sell
is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes down to make 13-14 750ml
spray bottles. He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This all
seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives. However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things, like
bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%. There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

On 31/03/2010 12:28, David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals from
them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down and work
out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the degreaser they sell
is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes down to make 13-14 750ml
spray bottles. He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This all
seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives. However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things, like
bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%. There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

I've found it often the case that if you know the particular chemical
you can buy it for 1/100 of the price for household branded equivalents.
Take caustic soda for example NaOH. I once bought some spray to remove
tar on the glass of a wood burning stove. Looking at the label it
consisted on 3% caustic soda at huge markup. Similarly if you buy drain
unblocker in liquid form it is often just caustic soda at a higher
concentration. but still expensive. I bought a tub of 100% caustic soda
crystals for something like £5 for a 5 litre tub. Much much cheaper than
any other way of buying it. You just have to take a lot of care when
using it because it gets very hot (or even boils) when mixed with water
and can spit highly caustic bits at you if you mix it wrong.
A good knowledge of chemistry comes in useful sometimes when buying
common chemicals or their branded household equivalents.


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On 31/03/2010 12:28, David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals from
them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down and work
out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the degreaser they sell
is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes down to make 13-14 750ml
spray bottles. He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This all
seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives. However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things, like
bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%. There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

I've found it often the case that if you know the particular chemical you
can buy it for 1/100 of the price for household branded equivalents.
Take caustic soda for example NaOH. I once bought some spray to remove tar
on the glass of a wood burning stove. Looking at the label it consisted on
3% caustic soda at huge markup. Similarly if you buy drain unblocker in
liquid form it is often just caustic soda at a higher concentration. but
still expensive. I bought a tub of 100% caustic soda crystals for
something like £5 for a 5 litre tub. Much much cheaper than any other way
of buying it. You just have to take a lot of care when using it because it
gets very hot (or even boils) when mixed with water and can spit highly
caustic bits at you if you mix it wrong.
A good knowledge of chemistry comes in useful sometimes when buying common
chemicals or their branded household equivalents.

The same applies to garden fertilisers and weedkillers try and buy the
active ingredient, much cheaper.

On 31/03/2010 13:42, SS wrote:


The same applies to garden fertilisers and weedkillers try and buy the
active ingredient, much cheaper.


A prime example of this is glyphosate. The price of the generic stuff
has doubled over the last few years and is now around £29 per 2.5
litres. However it is still much much cheaper than buying it under the
brand name Roundup. I saw some Roundup the other day at £20 for 5 litres
PRE DILUTED READY TO USE. The markup is horrific something like a factor
of a hundred times more expensive to buy the branded Roundup equivalent!

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember David in Normandy
saying something like:

On 31/03/2010 13:42, SS wrote:


The same applies to garden fertilisers and weedkillers try and buy the
active ingredient, much cheaper.

25kg of NaOH cost me approx ¤12.5 when I was making biodiesel.


A prime example of this is glyphosate. The price of the generic stuff
has doubled over the last few years and is now around £29 per 2.5
litres. However it is still much much cheaper than buying it under the
brand name Roundup. I saw some Roundup the other day at £20 for 5 litres
PRE DILUTED READY TO USE. The markup is horrific something like a factor
of a hundred times more expensive to buy the branded Roundup equivalent!

Exactly so. I bought some glyphosphate in the local farmers' store a
couple of years ago for approx ¤23 /5L and that will last me decades
(assuming it doesn't go off), compared to Roundup at damn near twice the
price. Of course the genuine Roundup claimed to be better - ha, tell
that to the weeds that are all toasty.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember David in Normandy
saying something like:

On 31/03/2010 13:42, SS wrote:


The same applies to garden fertilisers and weedkillers try and buy the
active ingredient, much cheaper.

25kg of NaOH cost me approx ¤12.5 when I was making biodiesel.


A prime example of this is glyphosate. The price of the generic stuff
has doubled over the last few years and is now around £29 per 2.5
litres. However it is still much much cheaper than buying it under the
brand name Roundup. I saw some Roundup the other day at £20 for 5 litres
PRE DILUTED READY TO USE. The markup is horrific something like a factor
of a hundred times more expensive to buy the branded Roundup equivalent!

Exactly so. I bought some glyphosphate in the local farmers' store a
couple of years ago for approx ¤23 /5L and that will last me decades
(assuming it doesn't go off), compared to Roundup at damn near twice the
price. Of course the genuine Roundup claimed to be better - ha, tell
that to the weeds that are all toasty.

And for moss killer on the lawn ..
Ferrous (iron) Sulphate

David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals from
them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down and work
out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the degreaser they sell
is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes down to make 13-14 750ml
spray bottles.

He gave you good advice.

He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This all
seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives.

However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things, like
bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%.

You don't need bleach. It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

Not if you follow the instructions.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

None.

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

Trust me, you only need a few thing to keep a house clean.

Jangro are a buying cooperative of independant janitorial suppliers, they
know their stuff & have huge buying power.

First of all, in the bathroom you only need a daily cleaner & a toilet bowl
descaler. Bleach has no place in a bathroom, its a complete waste of money.

For a daily cleaner the Toilet & Washroom Cleaner Descaler or the Perfumed
Toilet Cleaner
will do sinks, toilets, baths. showers etc. Acidic Toilet Cleaner & Lime
scale Remover will deep clean the toilet bowl once a week.

For the kitchen all you need is a good hard surface cleaner either the
Jangro Heavy Duty Cleaner Odourless or the Kitchen Cleaner Sanitiser
Odourless

These are both 'no taint, no taste' cleaners.

Most of those are available in 1 litre bottles. Try a few, then buy 5
litres of the ones you like.

You might want to add a glass cleaner, an air freshener and a polish.

Worth checking out toilet roll prices as well.


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 31 Mar, 17:47, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals from
them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down and work
out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the degreaser they sell
is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes down to make 13-14 750ml
spray bottles.

He gave you good advice.

I thought so ;-)


He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This all
seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives.
However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things, like
bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%.

You don't need bleach. *It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

Will let Mum know, I think she uses it mostly to stop smells in the
kitchen drain.


There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

Not if you follow the instructions.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

None.

This is the supplier:http://www.jangro-leicester.com/
The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

Trust me, you only need a few thing to keep a house clean.

Jangro are a buying cooperative of independant janitorial suppliers, they
know their stuff & have huge buying power.

Have you ever used anything from Jangro?


First of all, in the bathroom you only need a daily cleaner & a toilet bowl
descaler. *Bleach has no place in a bathroom, its a complete waste of money.

For a daily cleaner the Toilet & Washroom Cleaner Descaler or the Perfumed
Toilet Cleaner
will do sinks, toilets, baths. showers etc. *Acidic Toilet Cleaner & Lime
scale Remover will deep clean the toilet bowl once a week.

Thanks


For the kitchen all you need is a good hard surface cleaner either the
Jangro Heavy Duty Cleaner Odourless or the Kitchen Cleaner Sanitiser
Odourless

What is the main differences between their:

a) Multi surface cleaner http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urpose_Cleaner
b) Hard surface cleaner http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urface_Cleaner
c) Heavy duty cleaner http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...y_Duty_Cleaner

?

Will their all in one cleaner and disinfectant do the job? I think my
Mum often adds a little bit of Dettol to her cleaning bucket when
wiping down walls so this will save her having to get a disinfectant.

These are both 'no taint, no taste' cleaners.

Most of those are available in 1 litre bottles. *Try a few, then buy 5
litres of the ones you like.

You might want to add a glass cleaner, an air freshener and a polish.

One more question, will their neural floor cleaner:
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod..._Floor_Cleaner
do the job on our marble floor when used via the George scrubbing/
drying facility, also will it be OK on laminate? At the moment we use
just water on the marble floor as the neutral cleaner from a local
tiles place is way to costly and runs out very quickly and on the
laminate we use a dedicated cleaner.


Worth checking out toilet roll prices as well.

Good point,


--
Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Thanks for the help so far, very much appreciated.

David wrote:
On 31 Mar, 17:47, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals. We got talking and he was telling
me that I would be better off getting all the household chemicals
from them as the ones from supermarkets are woefully watered down
and work out to be very expensive, he gave an example; the
degreaser they sell is around £10 for 5 litres but then dilutes
down to make 13-14 750ml spray bottles.

He gave you good advice.

I thought so ;-)


He also pointed out that if things were dirtier than
usual you could just make the cleaning mixture a tad richer. This
all seems very good to me and when we do run out of things like all
purpose cleaner, bathroom cleaner, degreaser, bleach etc I think we
will start replacing them with the trade alternatives.
However I am
slightly confused as they are so many different types of things,
like bleach is available with 4.5% available chlorine and 4.7%.

You don't need bleach. It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

Will let Mum know, I think she uses it mostly to stop smells in the
kitchen drain.

Thats one use its actually OK for.


There are a
variety of washroom chemicals too. Can you help me to decide on what
chemicals I need? First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available. Also will these
chemicals be more likely to destroy things as I seen a few with the
Corrosive label on them.

Not if you follow the instructions.

And is it really a good idea and do you think they are any downsides
apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

None.

This is the supplier:http://www.jangro-leicester.com/
The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

Trust me, you only need a few thing to keep a house clean.

Jangro are a buying cooperative of independant janitorial suppliers,
they know their stuff & have huge buying power.

Have you ever used anything from Jangro?

I might well have without knowing, because their stuff is made by long
established chemical manufacturers who specialise on 'own label' chemicals.
As I said above, they know their stuff & wouldn't bother selling anything
that didn't work well.


First of all, in the bathroom you only need a daily cleaner & a
toilet bowl descaler. Bleach has no place in a bathroom, its a
complete waste of money.

For a daily cleaner the Toilet & Washroom Cleaner Descaler or the
Perfumed Toilet Cleaner
will do sinks, toilets, baths. showers etc. Acidic Toilet Cleaner &
Lime scale Remover will deep clean the toilet bowl once a week.

Thanks


For the kitchen all you need is a good hard surface cleaner either
the Jangro Heavy Duty Cleaner Odourless or the Kitchen Cleaner
Sanitiser Odourless

What is the main differences between their:

a) Multi surface cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urpose_Cleaner
b) Hard surface cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urface_Cleaner
c) Heavy duty cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...y_Duty_Cleaner

?

Hard to tell without seeing a COSHH sheet or trying it, but price is a good
guide - the dearer ones will be better/stronger. I'd go for the multi
surface cleaner.

Will their all in one cleaner and disinfectant do the job? I think my
Mum often adds a little bit of Dettol to her cleaning bucket when
wiping down walls so this will save her having to get a disinfectant.

If a surface is truly 'clean' there won't be any germs anyway. Combined
cleaner/disinfectants or cleaner/sanitisers are usually QAT based -
effectife & benign. Dettol is phenolic - the smell prolly convinces people
its doing the job.

These are both 'no taint, no taste' cleaners.

Most of those are available in 1 litre bottles. Try a few, then buy 5
litres of the ones you like.

You might want to add a glass cleaner, an air freshener and a polish.

One more question, will their neural floor cleaner:
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod..._Floor_Cleaner
do the job on our marble floor when used via the George scrubbing/
drying facility, also will it be OK on laminate? At the moment we use
just water on the marble floor as the neutral cleaner from a local
tiles place is way to costly and runs out very quickly and on the
laminate we use a dedicated cleaner.

Certainly on marble you need a neutral product. Fine on laminate as well.


Thanks for the help so far, very much appreciated.

No probs. 30 years in the cleaning industry & a British Institute of
Cleaning Science trainer in a former life. Happy to help.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Have you ever used anything from Jangro?

I might well have without knowing, because their stuff is made by long
established chemical manufacturers who specialise on 'own label' chemicals.
As I said above, they know their stuff & wouldn't bother selling anything
that didn't work well.

True







For the kitchen all you need is a good hard surface cleaner either
the Jangro Heavy Duty Cleaner Odourless or the Kitchen Cleaner
Sanitiser Odourless

What is the main differences between their:

a) Multi surface cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urpose_Cleaner
b) Hard surface cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...urface_Cleaner
c) Heavy duty cleaner
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod...y_Duty_Cleaner

?

Hard to tell without seeing a COSHH sheet or trying it, but price is a good
guide - the dearer ones will be better/stronger. *I'd go for the multi
surface cleaner.

Ah I see, will go for the Multi Surface then.




Will their all in one cleaner and disinfectant do the job? I think my
Mum often adds a little bit of Dettol to her cleaning bucket when
wiping down walls so this will save her having to get a disinfectant.

If a surface is truly 'clean' there won't be any germs anyway. *Combined
cleaner/disinfectants or cleaner/sanitisers are usually QAT based -
effectife & benign. *Dettol is phenolic - the smell prolly convinces people
its doing the job.

Something new learnt there.


These are both 'no taint, no taste' cleaners.

Most of those are available in 1 litre bottles. Try a few, then buy 5
litres of the ones you like.

You might want to add a glass cleaner, an air freshener and a polish.

One more question, will their neural floor cleaner:
http://www.jangro-leicester.com/Prod..._Floor_Cleaner
do the job on our marble floor when used via the George scrubbing/
drying facility, also will it be OK on laminate? At the moment we use
just water on the marble floor as the neutral cleaner from a local
tiles place is way to costly and runs out very quickly and on the
laminate we use a dedicated cleaner.

Certainly on marble you need a neutral product. *Fine on laminate as well.

I used the George scrubber drier thing the other day and my God the
dirt that was lifted was quite amazing, far better than mopping.




Thanks for the help so far, very much appreciated.

No probs. *30 years in the cleaning industry & a British Institute of
Cleaning Science trainer in a former life. *Happy to help.

BTW I used Prochem Extraction Pro (it's changed to Extraction Plus
actually) and Multi Pro pre-spray and it was astonishing, I always
rinse afterwards and I think it helps so no detergent residue builds
up in the pump, is it really a good step to take or am I wasting my
time?


--
Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk

David wrote:
SNIP

BTW I used Prochem Extraction Pro (it's changed to Extraction Plus
actually) and Multi Pro pre-spray and it was astonishing, I always
rinse afterwards and I think it helps so no detergent residue builds
up in the pump, is it really a good step to take or am I wasting my
time?

Do you mean you rinse the carpet or rinse out the machine?

Prolly unessary to rinse the carpet as the products will be low residue.
Rinsing out the pump is an excellent thing to do.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember David saying
something like:

One more question, will their neural floor cleaner:

At last! The mythical Mind Bleach!

On 31/03/2010 17:47 The Medway Handyman wrote:

You don't need bleach. It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

I've been trying to persuade Management of this for years: care to
provide me with some 'useful' phrases?

--
F

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
...
On 31/03/2010 17:47 The Medway Handyman wrote:

You don't need bleach. It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

I've been trying to persuade Management of this for years: care to provide
me with some 'useful' phrases?

Well bleach does kill germs, unlike some cleaners.
Opps that isn't going to convince them is it?

F wrote:
On 31/03/2010 17:47 The Medway Handyman wrote:

You don't need bleach. It achieves nothing in a bathroom.

I've been trying to persuade Management of this for years: care to
provide me with some 'useful' phrases?

Bleach doesn't remove dirt, it bleaches the colour out so you can't see it.

Typical example is a WC bowl. Made of a very smooth, glazed ceramic
material so that bacteria can't stick & multiply.

Limescale forms, giving the bacteria somewhere to hide & you get stains &
smells. Bleach kills the bacteria & removes the colour so all looks clean.
It can't remove the limescale, so next use starts the cycle over again.

If you use a decent mildly acidic toilet bowl cleaner it keps the limescale
at bay, so bacteria has no place to multiply.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 01/04/2010 19:40 The Medway Handyman wrote:

Bleach doesn't remove dirt, it bleaches the colour out so you can't see it.

Typical example is a WC bowl. Made of a very smooth, glazed ceramic
material so that bacteria can't stick& multiply.

Limescale forms, giving the bacteria somewhere to hide& you get stains&
smells. Bleach kills the bacteria& removes the colour so all looks clean.
It can't remove the limescale, so next use starts the cycle over again.

If you use a decent mildly acidic toilet bowl cleaner it keps the limescale
at bay, so bacteria has no place to multiply.

Thanks for that: just what I wanted. Care to elaborate on 'a decent
mildly acidic toilet bowl cleaner'? Don't be afraid to name names!

--
F

F wrote:
On 01/04/2010 19:40 The Medway Handyman wrote:

Bleach doesn't remove dirt, it bleaches the colour out so you can't
see it. Typical example is a WC bowl. Made of a very smooth, glazed
ceramic
material so that bacteria can't stick& multiply.

Limescale forms, giving the bacteria somewhere to hide& you get
stains& smells. Bleach kills the bacteria& removes the colour so
all looks clean. It can't remove the limescale, so next use starts
the cycle over again. If you use a decent mildly acidic toilet bowl
cleaner it keps the
limescale at bay, so bacteria has no place to multiply.

Thanks for that: just what I wanted. Care to elaborate on 'a decent
mildly acidic toilet bowl cleaner'? Don't be afraid to name names!

There are many on the market - Toilet Duck etc. The makers are a little
vauge sometimes & use weasel words/phrases. Look for something that
actually say "limescale remover" or "removes limescale" rather than "helps
to" or "reduces".

Supermarket own brands are often as good as brand leaders. Next time I pop
into Morrissons or Tesco I'll have a look.


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:28:35 -0700 (PDT), David
wrote:

First off an APC to replace Flash and a bathroom
cleaner to replace Mr Muscle which tbh is good but still works out
expensive when you look at the products available.

We use Sainsburys 'basics' bio washing liquid in hot water [ie the
stuff for clothes] for lots of general stuff, but its especially good
on floors [tile and laminate] and all round the bathroom - I use a car
brush, gets in all the corners on sinks/loos etc. Then rinse off with
brush and plenty of water. Things get a bit wet, but just clear the
surfaces and do it prior to mopping floor. Put a capful of Savlon
antiseptic liquid in the solution for hygene/freshness - tho probably
not really needed. Super clean and only takes a quarter of the time
compared to fiddly sprays and cloths. £1/litre and it will last for
ages.

On a similar point ... any suggestions/recommendations for online
suppliers of bulk washing (laundry) liquid/powder?

I can't help thinking there must be a better way than waiting for the
latest supermarket offer on ultra-sooper-concentrated 'smells like a
forest glade' stuff...

Thanks
J^n

On 1 Apr, 08:08, jkn wrote:
On a similar point ... any suggestions/recommendations for online
suppliers of bulk washing (laundry) liquid/powder?

I can't help thinking there must be a better way than waiting for the
latest supermarket offer on ultra-sooper-concentrated 'smells like a
forest glade' stuff...

* * Thanks
* * J^n

The link to the company I use have a few laundry things.

David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.
What about bathroom mould?

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R100RT
Aprilia Pegaso 650 IE "The Flying Mythos"
Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT
(green!)
www.davidhowardjeweller.co.uk

Jeweller wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.
What about bathroom mould?

What about it?

Dave

Dave wrote:
Jeweller wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.
What about bathroom mould?

What about it?

Dave
Doesn't it make lovely, pretty patterns?

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R100RT
Aprilia Pegaso 650 IE "The Flying Mythos"
Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT
(green!)
www.davidhowardjeweller.co.uk

Jeweller wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

What about bathroom mould?

Ventilation.


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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Jeweller wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.

What about bathroom mould?

Ventilation.


Just sorted that out. Am off to clean the mould away (MiL's), is the
vent (timer + sensor) likely to keep the mould from reforming?

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R100RT
Aprilia Pegaso 650 IE "The Flying Mythos"
Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT
(green!)
www.davidhowardjeweller.co.uk

Jeweller wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Jeweller wrote:
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?

This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/

The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get
15% discount on certain things.

What about bathroom mould?

Ventilation.


Just sorted that out. Am off to clean the mould away (MiL's), is the
vent (timer + sensor) likely to keep the mould from reforming?

Certainly should.


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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In message , Jeweller
writes
David wrote:
Yesterday I went to my local janitorial suppliers to pick up some
Prochem carpet cleaning chemicals.
snip

apart from storing 5 litre bottles?
This is the supplier: http://www.jangro-leicester.com/
The prices on the website are not all correct and I can also get 15%
discount on certain things.
What about bathroom mould?

Hey, we're filling up with UKRMers here


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geoff