Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.

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On Mar 26, 9:29*pm, YAPH wrote:
Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.


The Wickes quick setting 10kg one does. Or get some vanilla cement and
make it with hot water. Or if youre really in a hurry, mix some old
plaster up and watch it flash set.


NT

the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.


Wickes sell it - £2.09 for 2kg bag.

CRB

On 26 Mar 2010 21:29:43 GMT, YAPH wrote:

Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.


Car body filler?

Angle grinder?

YAPH wrote:
Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.

CAR BODY FILLER

Get the Acme stuff that Wile E. Coyote uses.

On Mar 26, 4:29*pm, YAPH wrote:
Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.

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Things don't like being anthropomorphised.

In the US we have Hydraulic Cement it sets in about 5 minutes even
under pressure from leaks, im sure its sold there.

On 26/03/2010 21:54, NT wrote:
Or get some vanilla cement and
make it with hot water. Or if youre really in a hurry, mix some old
plaster up and watch it flash set.


NT

You remind me of some of the writing of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn about the
gulags. They would mix the cement with hot water and yes, it set very
quickly.

Because it had frozen solid. :-)

Bit too mild a climate here.

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Rod

In article ,
YAPH writes:
Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.

Cements/mortars take weeks to reach full strength, and this is a case
where you need full strength, not just set. Plaster doesn't have the
same strength.

I would look for something which reaches full strength much faster,
such as one of the resin suggestions, possibly mixed with some fibres.

If you can get a brick well mortared in the hole, such that the fixing
goes into the brick and not the mortar, then a fast setting cement
might just be acceptable, if you can drill the hole without vibrating
the mortar to bits (or if you're really clever, before you mortar the
brick in;-).

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"YAPH" wrote in message
...
Is there such a thing? The boiler I have to replace on Monday will have
one of its fixing holes in the hole which I'll have to block up from the
large un-fanned flue of the boiler I'm replacing.

There are various ways I could work around the problem but the ideal would
be a mortar that sets in, say, 30 mins - 1 hour.

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Things don't like being anthropomorphised.


Just buy a rapid set additive and mix it in with water you make standard
mortar with ... works a treat .. any Bldr merchant will have it ... even in
small 1 Liter bottles.
Last time I was in B&Q they stocked it.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:07:37 +0000, Rick Hughes wrote:

Just buy a rapid set additive and mix it in with water you make standard
mortar with ... works a treat .. any Bldr merchant will have it ... even
in small 1 Liter bottles.
Last time I was in B&Q they stocked it.

Thanks. I've bought some of the Wickes stuff now in little bags but for
future reference how quickly does the additive stuff make the mortar go
off?



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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:11:18 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

If you can get a brick well mortared in the hole, such that the fixing
goes into the brick and not the mortar, then a fast setting cement
might just be acceptable, if you can drill the hole without vibrating
the mortar to bits (or if you're really clever, before you mortar the
brick in

Yes the fixing will go into the (Thermalite) block and I can do it with a
multi-material drill without hammer so as long as the mortar sets
reasonably stiffly it should be OK even if it takes much longer to get to
full strength.



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"YAPH" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:07:37 +0000, Rick Hughes wrote:

Just buy a rapid set additive and mix it in with water you make standard
mortar with ... works a treat .. any Bldr merchant will have it ... even
in small 1 Liter bottles.
Last time I was in B&Q they stocked it.

Thanks. I've bought some of the Wickes stuff now in little bags but for
future reference how quickly does the additive stuff make the mortar go
off?



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Depends how much of it you add ... there is a chart on the lable.
But this is not something that goes off in minutes.

Used for outdoor work that needs to go off before rain or frost is due.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:26:23 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote:

Depends how much of it you add ... there is a chart on the lable.
But this is not something that goes off in minutes.

Used for outdoor work that needs to go off before rain or frost is due.

Ahh, OK, I'll look at a bottle when I come across one but it sounds like
a lot longer-setting than I need. Thanks anyhow.


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DEATH TO FANATICS!

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:55:02 +0000, YAPH wrote:

Yes the fixing will go into the (Thermalite) block and I can do it with
a multi-material drill without hammer so as long as the mortar sets
reasonably stiffly it should be OK even if it takes much longer to get
to full strength.

If anyone's interested the Wickes quick-setting mortar pretty much did what
it said on the tin (well, packet). Mortared in the block, stopped for
lunch, went back and fixed the boiler frame. Could probably have done it
sooner but was getting peckish.

I've got some left over and will remember it for next time I have to fix
sunken fittings for a shower mixer valve or electrical back-boxes into
gashed-out holes - should be ideal for that (though bonding plaster would
also do).



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The astronomer married a star

YAPH wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:55:02 +0000, YAPH wrote:

Yes the fixing will go into the (Thermalite) block and I can do it with
a multi-material drill without hammer so as long as the mortar sets
reasonably stiffly it should be OK even if it takes much longer to get
to full strength.

If anyone's interested the Wickes quick-setting mortar pretty much did what
it said on the tin (well, packet). Mortared in the block, stopped for
lunch, went back and fixed the boiler frame. Could probably have done it
sooner but was getting peckish.

I've got some left over and will remember it for next time I have to fix
sunken fittings for a shower mixer valve or electrical back-boxes into
gashed-out holes - should be ideal for that (though bonding plaster would
also do).




I find body filler useful for an instant fix, even if it's only at one
or two key points to hold something in position while you fill the bulk
with something else.
I'm ashamed to say I even used it recently to pack out a pair of door
hinges. Needs must when you can't find anything the thickness of a 1p coin

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:29:34 +0100, stuart noble wrote:

I find body filler useful for an instant fix, even if it's only at one
or two key points to hold something in position while you fill the bulk
with something else.
I'm ashamed to say I even used it recently to pack out a pair of door
hinges. Needs must when you can't find anything the thickness of a 1p
coin

And why not? You can always trim it with an angle grinder...

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Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:29:34 +0100, stuart noble wrote:

I find body filler useful for an instant fix, even if it's only at one
or two key points to hold something in position while you fill the bulk
with something else.
I'm ashamed to say I even used it recently to pack out a pair of door
hinges. Needs must when you can't find anything the thickness of a 1p
coin

And why not? You can always trim it with an angle grinder...


Get your timing right and it's as easy as cutting cheese. You normally
have a couple of minutes to sculpt, even more with smaller amounts where
less heat is generated.

stuart noble wrote:
YAPH wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:55:02 +0000, YAPH wrote:

Yes the fixing will go into the (Thermalite) block and I can do it
with a multi-material drill without hammer so as long as the mortar
sets reasonably stiffly it should be OK even if it takes much
longer to get to full strength.

If anyone's interested the Wickes quick-setting mortar pretty much
did what it said on the tin (well, packet). Mortared in the block,
stopped for lunch, went back and fixed the boiler frame. Could
probably have done it sooner but was getting peckish.

I've got some left over and will remember it for next time I have to
fix sunken fittings for a shower mixer valve or electrical
back-boxes into gashed-out holes - should be ideal for that (though
bonding plaster would also do).




I find body filler useful for an instant fix, even if it's only at one
or two key points to hold something in position while you fill the
bulk with something else.
I'm ashamed to say I even used it recently to pack out a pair of door
hinges. Needs must when you can't find anything the thickness of a 1p
coin

The wooden stirrers from McDonalds are ideal for this. I always pinch a
handful when I go in for a cup of tea :-)

The Medway Handyman wrote:
stuart noble wrote:
YAPH wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:55:02 +0000, YAPH wrote:

Yes the fixing will go into the (Thermalite) block and I can do it
with a multi-material drill without hammer so as long as the mortar
sets reasonably stiffly it should be OK even if it takes much
longer to get to full strength.
If anyone's interested the Wickes quick-setting mortar pretty much
did what it said on the tin (well, packet). Mortared in the block,
stopped for lunch, went back and fixed the boiler frame. Could
probably have done it sooner but was getting peckish.

I've got some left over and will remember it for next time I have to
fix sunken fittings for a shower mixer valve or electrical
back-boxes into gashed-out holes - should be ideal for that (though
bonding plaster would also do).



I find body filler useful for an instant fix, even if it's only at one
or two key points to hold something in position while you fill the
bulk with something else.
I'm ashamed to say I even used it recently to pack out a pair of door
hinges. Needs must when you can't find anything the thickness of a 1p
coin

The wooden stirrers from McDonalds are ideal for this. I always pinch a
handful when I go in for a cup of tea :-)





Now that's worth remembering. I shall probably start picking up lolly
sticks in the street now, but then never need to pack a hinge ever again.

The Medway Handyman wrote:


The wooden stirrers from McDonalds are ideal for this. I always pinch a
handful when I go in for a cup of tea :-)



Jesus wept., I don't go into McDonalds for a start, and I certainly
would never ever drink what they sell as 'tea'

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:


The wooden stirrers from McDonalds are ideal for this. I always
pinch a handful when I go in for a cup of tea :-)



Jesus wept., I don't go into McDonalds for a start, and I certainly
would never ever drink what they sell as 'tea'

They make a very nice cuppa FYI.

We have 6 McD's in the Medway Towns, very handy for toilet & refreshment
breaks.


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