My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

A concrete floor sloping toward the front seems obvious.

any better ideas?

[g]

george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

A concrete floor sloping toward the front seems obvious.

any better ideas?

[g]

Smooth paving slabs bedded on sand would be just as good (sand optional, but
will allow more even laying so coal shovel doesn't snag on the edges).



--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)

Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Can anyone expand on this?

Dave

On 8 Feb, 13:55, "george [dicegeorge]" wrote:
My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

A concrete floor sloping toward the front seems obvious.

any better ideas?

[g]

see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunker_buster may help you work out
some specs

Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

A concrete floor sloping toward the front seems obvious.

any better ideas?

[g]

Smooth paving slabs bedded on sand would be just as good (sand optional, but
will allow more even laying so coal shovel doesn't snag on the edges).



why didnt i think of that?
thanks

[g]

Dave :
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?
Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)

Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Can anyone expand on this?

No, but talking about ROFs, I worked in one for a while. I remember
that, because a speedy evacuation might be necessary, we were required
to reverse into parking places. Any car found to be parked nose-in would
be removed.

If it were me I'd apply that rule to the whole country. :-)

--
Mike Barnes

On 8 Feb, 13:55, "george [dicegeorge]" wrote:
My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Net curtains for that homely feel. And I'm told laminate flooring is
all the rage.

Mike Barnes wrote:
Dave :
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?
Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)
Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Can anyone expand on this?

No, but talking about ROFs, I worked in one for a while. I remember
that, because a speedy evacuation might be necessary, we were required
to reverse into parking places. Any car found to be parked nose-in would
be removed.

If it were me I'd apply that rule to the whole country. :-)

But how would a woman be expected to park up :-)

Dave

Dave :
Mike Barnes wrote:
talking about ROFs, I worked in one for a while. I remember
that, because a speedy evacuation might be necessary, we were required
to reverse into parking places. Any car found to be parked nose-in would
be removed.
If it were me I'd apply that rule to the whole country. :-)

But how would a woman be expected to park up :-)

Going off a sample of one, they can be trained, and will even (in an
absent-minded moment) thank you for it. Incredible but true.

--
Mike Barnes

On 8 Feb, 18:52, Dave wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
*wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)

Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

Barrat, developers of toxic land countrywide at all?

Explosive manufacture is a messy business, and elf an safety are
relatively new concepts.

Reclamation usually only goes down so far, top soil removed and taken
to specialist dump , then seal off rest with membrane.

Cross fingers.

Allow 10 years as being limit of company still being liquid enough to
bother suing for liability.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Cabinet War Rooms in London have a 12` reinforced concrete wall cut
through with a core drill, lots and lots of times, Kelvedon Hatch out
at Chipping Ongar 14` with abrasive belt and lots of kango hammers,
both are a credit to the guys that did the cutting.

Seen the size of concrete base a wind turbine needs..?



Can anyone expand on this?

added uk.rec.subterranea if there is anyone there......

Cheers
Adam


Dave

On Feb 8, 10:13 pm, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On 8 Feb, 18:52, Dave wrote:



The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)

Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

Barrat, developers of toxic land countrywide at all?

Explosive manufacture is a messy business, and elf an safety are
relatively new concepts.

Reclamation usually only goes down so far, top soil removed and taken
to specialist dump , then seal off rest with membrane.

Cross fingers.

Allow 10 years as being limit of company still being liquid enough to
bother suing for liability.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Cabinet War Rooms in London have a 12` reinforced concrete wall cut
through with a core drill, lots and lots of times, Kelvedon Hatch out
at Chipping Ongar 14` with abrasive belt and lots of kango hammers,
both are a credit to the guys that did the cutting.

Seen the size of concrete base a wind turbine needs..?

is that factored into their alleged "green credentials"?

JimK

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:52:47 +0000, Dave wrote:

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Can anyone expand on this?

In what way? The ammo dumps would have fairly solid walls, weak roofs
and surrounded by slopped reventments to deflect any blast up and
away from neighbouring dumps. I can see the walls being been strong
but you can demolish anything if you hit it hard enough. Hitting
things hard costs money though, cheaper to leave them, build around
and make them feature of the histroy of the site.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Martin Pentreath wrote:
On 8 Feb, 13:55, "george [dicegeorge]" wrote:
My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Net curtains for that homely feel. And I'm told laminate flooring is
all the rage.

Thank you.

Adam Aglionby wrote:
On 8 Feb, 18:52, Dave wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55
My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.
How can I improve it?
Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)
Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

Barrat, developers of toxic land countrywide at all?

Explosive manufacture is a messy business, and elf an safety are
relatively new concepts.

Reclamation usually only goes down so far, top soil removed and taken
to specialist dump , then seal off rest with membrane.

Cross fingers.

Allow 10 years as being limit of company still being liquid enough to
bother suing for liability.

Oh! Thanks, I hadn't looked at it from that point of view.

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Cabinet War Rooms in London have a 12` reinforced concrete wall cut
through with a core drill, lots and lots of times, Kelvedon Hatch out
at Chipping Ongar 14` with abrasive belt and lots of kango hammers,
both are a credit to the guys that did the cutting.

I re learned about using volcanic powder can strengthen concrete. When I
thought about it, most of the towering peaks in the West of Scotland are
the remains of volcanic mountains that have had the mountain eroded over
the thousands of years that they have been there.

Seen the size of concrete base a wind turbine needs..?

No and I don't want to see the turbine either, they spoil the line of
sight wherever they get planted :-((

Dave

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:52:47 +0000, Dave wrote:

There are various mounds of earth around the site, I found out today,
that it is because the blast walls could not be demolished due to the
strength of the concrete and were buried.

Can anyone expand on this?

In what way? The ammo dumps would have fairly solid walls, weak roofs
and surrounded by slopped reventments to deflect any blast up and
away from neighbouring dumps. I can see the walls being been strong
but you can demolish anything if you hit it hard enough. Hitting
things hard costs money though, cheaper to leave them, build around
and make them feature of the histroy of the site.

Yes, you are quite right in that. I worked with military jets that were
armed with live bombs and missiles, but only when they were parked up in
what was called the 'butts'. What they were was two very high and long
mounds of earth with the ends pointing to another two butts side on, so
any blast would also go upwards and not outwards.

Dave (not thinking too well in this cold weather)

Dave wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?

Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)

Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

My mate worked over the road from an old Vickers Armaments factory that was
due for demolition. The crew started work, then stopped when they realised
there was nothing alive inside - no spiders, rats etc. Whole thing had to
be decontaminated and what was meant to be a housing development is now a
retail park.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Dave wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:
george [dicegeorge]
wibbled on Monday 08 February 2010 13:55

My exisitng coal bunker has an earth floor
and 3 breeze block walls of about 4foot by 3 foot
with an old door for a roof.

How can I improve it?
Thats not a coal bunker its a junk pile :-)
Talking about bunkers, there is a ex ROF site that has been slowly
redeveloped into both a housing estate and an industrial complex. The
deeds to the houses state that they can't grow anything edible for at
least 10 years.

My mate worked over the road from an old Vickers Armaments factory that was
due for demolition. The crew started work, then stopped when they realised
there was nothing alive inside - no spiders, rats etc.

I'll bet that clenched their bums tight shut. It is an eerie thing to
enconter, I'd bet.

Whole thing had to
be decontaminated and what was meant to be a housing development is now a
retail park.

I'll bet the decontamination was mostly down to a thick layer of
concrete then.

Dave

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Owain
saying something like:

On 8 Feb, 13:55, "george [dicegeorge]" wrote:
How can I improve it?

Infra-red webcam so you can see how much coal you've got left.

Need that to spot the black cats ****ing in it.