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slowing down a DC motor?
I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and
gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? sorry, I have no info on the motor speed, rating, type etc etc. but its this one http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=71105 any help appreciated -- Vass |
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Vass wrote:
I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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On 3 Feb, 09:40, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. Chris -- Chris J Dixon *Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. You use pulse-width modulation to control DC motor speed without reducing the torque so much I believe. You can buy DC motor speed controllers. Simon. |
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On 3 Feb, 09:11, "Vass" wrote:
I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. http://mutr.co.uk and buy a slower motor and/or gearbox. They're cheap, and slowing down simple toy motors makes their torque drop off so rapidly that they're unlikely to still be useful to you. |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. hmm torque is an issue, its going to swing a 4 foot length of thin timber (balanced with axis in the centre obviously) |
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:35:40 -0000, "Vass"
wrote: "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message .. . Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. hmm torque is an issue, its going to swing a 4 foot length of thin timber (balanced with axis in the centre obviously) The mind boggles! -- Frank Erskine |
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Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? sorry, I have no info on the motor speed, rating, type etc etc. but its this one http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=71105 any help appreciated You can slow them down by reducing the voltage, but this will also reduce the maximum torque too - likely to the point where it isn't great enough. The best way would be to use a PWM controller - but even building one will likely cost more than a suitable speed motor/gearbox. If you decide to investigate PWM control both Vellerman and Jaycar do kits for this. Others probably too. -- *Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:35:40 -0000, Vass wrote:
"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. hmm torque is an issue, its going to swing a 4 foot length of thin timber (balanced with axis in the centre obviously) If it was me, I'd try it with the length of timber in place. You never know, the air resistance might do the slowing down for you. If not, try putting a small diode (about 10p, from Maplins) in series with the battery. This will drop 0.6 or 0.7 Volts, irrespective of load, so will roughly halve the voltage to the motor. They do need to be the right way round, or no current will flow. However, with such a small battery voltage there may be some difficulties in getting the motor to start spinning, esp. with that load attached. |
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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... The mind boggles! OK I'm wanting to rotate a lightweight length of timber or can be plastic if sturdy enough approx 4 foot length about it axis in the vertical direction a bit like a windmill this in turn will rotate about the horizontal (I've fixed this problem by standing a pole on a slow rotating shop window jewelry display turntable) I have seen motors with 2 axis shafts 90 degree to each other, this might be an option, rotating the whole thing at the top of the pole, but I've not ventured further into this idea. The use for this contraption is photography based (as ever) -- Vass |
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:27:52 -0000, "Vass"
wrote: "Frank Erskine" wrote in message .. . The mind boggles! OK I'm wanting to rotate a lightweight length of timber or can be plastic if sturdy enough approx 4 foot length about it axis in the vertical direction a bit like a windmill this in turn will rotate about the horizontal (I've fixed this problem by standing a pole on a slow rotating shop window jewelry display turntable) I have seen motors with 2 axis shafts 90 degree to each other, this might be an option, rotating the whole thing at the top of the pole, but I've not ventured further into this idea. The use for this contraption is photography based (as ever) Thank you! -- Frank Erskine |
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On 3 Feb, 11:27, "Vass" wrote:
"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... The mind boggles! OK I'm wanting to rotate a lightweight length of timber or can be plastic if sturdy enough approx 4 foot length about it axis in the vertical direction a bit like a windmill this in turn will rotate about the horizontal (I've fixed this problem by standing a pole on a slow rotating shop window jewelry display turntable) I have seen motors with 2 axis shafts 90 degree to each other, this might be an option, rotating the whole thing at the top of the pole, but I've not ventured further into this idea. The use for this contraption is photography based (as ever) -- Vass Cheap electric screwdrivers, high power motor and nice low RPM high torque planetary gearbox, seen them used for aerial rotators before. Cheers Adam |
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Vass wrote:
I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? sorry, I have no info on the motor speed, rating, type etc etc. but its this one http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=71105 any help appreciated www.technobots.co.uk and buy products that suit the purpose, rather than scrap.. |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. hmm torque is an issue, its going to swing a 4 foot length of thin timber (balanced with axis in the centre obviously) OK I'll bite. What model are you making this time :-) It can't be anything to do with Halloween, can it? Dave |
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:50:26 -0800, Adam Aglionby wrote:
Cheap electric screwdrivers, high power motor and nice low RPM high torque planetary gearbox, seen them used for aerial rotators before. Agreed. Or cordless drill motors; I ripped mine apart a few years ago (I hate cordless power tools) and built a little H-bridge driver and PWM circuit for the motor so I could electronically control the speed. (The body and battery from the drill ended up with an old car headlight grafted to them which made for a nice little lamp to be used in underground photography, so no bits were wasted :-) cheers Jules |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... Vass wrote: "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... Vass wrote: I've got a kids kit of a walking giraffe than I have salvaged the motor and gearbox from. It runs on a single AAA battery. but even with the gearbox, the end spindle is turning way too fast for the job I have for the unit. Is there a resistor or some other thingymebob that I can put in line from the battery to the motor that will half (approx) its speed? To a first approximation, DC motor speed varies with voltage, so if you connect a series resistor of roughly the same resistance as the motor itself, this may do what you want. A down side is that the torque will also reduce, and you may not have enough power for your needs. hmm torque is an issue, its going to swing a 4 foot length of thin timber (balanced with axis in the centre obviously) OK I'll bite. What model are you making this time :-) It can't be anything to do with Halloween, can it? first mock up appeared to work, photo here www.doubleyolk.co.uk -- Vass |
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"Vass" wrote in message . uk... better link here http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/4328493960/ -- Vass |
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