Typically 6 months out of 3 years warranty my monitor has gone
intermittent. Sometimes it just refuses to switch on and other times its
ok, except just recently I can rarely get it to fire up at all.

Its a slim clamshell design with VERY well concealed catches or whatever
fastening the back cover to the front bezel. I'm rarely defeated but
this case is clamed up like a limpet and I'm loathe to go much further
at prizing it apart if there's a chance anyone knows how to do it.

The nice (not!) NEC man said "tough, its out of warranty, and no we do't
release the manual" but they do free evaluations (i.e. give a quote) if
I take it to London, otherwise they'll collect it for £41. So I don't
want to damage it as I may yet have to do that - which will hurt!!

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Phil

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:21:07 +0100, Phil Addison
wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Somebody here might know if you post a message .
http://www.avforums.com/forums/computer-monitors/
It's probably got those legs on one panel that get squeezed in to
recesses in the mating panel and you need a member of the magic Circle
to get them apart .

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:47:03 +0100, Usenet Nutter
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:21:07 +0100, Phil Addison
wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Somebody here might know if you post a message .
http://www.avforums.com/forums/computer-monitors/
It's probably got those legs on one panel that get squeezed in to
recesses in the mating panel and you need a member of the magic Circle

That looks promising, thank you, I'll re-post on there. You're probably
right about the clips, but the halves of this monitor fit really neatly
together and I can't get any movement to yield a clue as to where they
may be.

Phil

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Can I be first to say "angle grinder"?

Mark Bluemel wrote:
On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Can I be first to say "angle grinder"?

Hoi! It was my turn. ;(

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen
LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen
LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

"Usenet Nutter" wrote in message
...
Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

So how do we get rid of it.....Angle Grinder!!

John

P.S. Selby is in North Yorkshire but with only one 'l'

Mark Bluemel wrote:
On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Can I be first to say "angle grinder"?

Only if I can be first to say "Have you tried WD40?"

Not familiar with the monitor in question, but try prising a corner
apart gently and then running a credit card round the join to see if
that frees up the catches?

Peter Watson wrote:
Mark Bluemel wrote:
On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Can I be first to say "angle grinder"?

Only if I can be first to say "Have you tried WD40?"

Not familiar with the monitor in question, but try prising a corner
apart gently and then running a credit card round the join to see if
that frees up the catches?

A suitable 'corner' is normally found starting from inside around the
metal work of the stand, that which ye should at lest find screws to
release. Finishing this post I'm going to try an ESP ping of 'Arfa
Daily' as he'd surely be able to give definitive on this.

ping ....

--
Adrian C

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen
LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

It's not a joke, it's a cultural thing.
--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Usenet Nutter wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:


"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2
flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may
yet have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to
come up with something new if you want to do humour.

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it
can be fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

Ok then, crocodile saw, dremel etc!

Unbeliever wrote:
Usenet Nutter wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100, "John"
wrote:

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it
can be fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John

It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

Ok then, crocodile saw, dremel etc!



How about a cold chisel then.

Irishman's bookshelf
====================

Take two cold chisels and an irish screwdriver.

Use the latter to impale the former into the living room wall
put a length of scaffold plank over the pair.

It's not a joke..found in ex rental property..

In message , Graham.
writes


So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen
LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

It's not a joke, it's a cultural thing.

There's culture in Selby ?

--
geoff

On 1 Oct, 18:38, Usenet Nutter
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100, "John"
wrote:





"Phil Addison" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark Bluemel
wrote:

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen
LCD
monitor?

Think you missed this bit "So I don't want to damage it as I may yet
have to do that (take it back) - which will hurt!!"

*Whoooosh !! *Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

Nah, but the angle grinder jokes worn a bit thin, so you need to come up
with something new if you want to do humour.

*Whoooosh !! *Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can be
fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!

HTH

John

It's still past it's sellby date as a joke

ITYM "tell by date".

I'll get my coat.

On 1 Oct, 01:21, Phil Addison wrote:
Typically 6 months out of 3 years warranty my monitor has gone
intermittent. Sometimes it just refuses to switch on and other times its
ok, except just recently I can rarely get it to fire up at all.

Its a slim clamshell design with VERY well concealed catches or whatever
fastening the back cover to the front bezel. I'm rarely defeated but
this case is clamed up like a limpet and I'm loathe to go much further
at prizing it apart if there's a chance anyone knows how to do it.

The nice (not!) NEC man said "tough, its out of warranty, and no we do't
release the manual" but they do free evaluations (i.e. give a quote) if
I take it to London, otherwise they'll collect it for £41. So I don't
want to damage it as I may yet have to do that - which will hurt!!

So, anyone have any clues how to open a 20" NEC 20WGX2 flatscreen LCD
monitor?

Phil

I inherited a DELL LCD monitor, which worked, but gave off some rather
funky smells ... I managed to get it apart without *too* much damage
using a knife, and prising with the long edge along the sides ... it
seemed to need a lot of the gap to be forced to get it to lift ... I
suspect that they use a proper jig in the workshop, which applies
pressure on all 4 sides simultaneously ... you may get better results
with a willing assistant (just make sure the knives aren't
pointy :-) )

Once I had the beast open I found a capacitor had started to burn
out , and the smell was the PCB charring. There were 4 identical
capacitors which seemed to be part of a power-smoothing circuit
feeding the 4 lamps round the screen. I was able to read the spec from
the 3 remaining ones, only to discover the only retail source in the
UK (online that is) was Farnell, who had a minimum delivery charge of
about £15 ...

It's still in pieces in the loft.

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:09:42 -0700 (PDT), js.b1 wrote:

snip

People hated the
external bricks "because they failed", well I'd rather have one of
those because at least replacement is somewhat simpler :-)

Having read all this, I'm now a bit happier that my monitor has an external
PSU.
What I'm looking at is running a socket from 12V Molex to the back panel of
the PC and supplying the monitor from there. It'd get rid of the brick and
also move the PC's PSU in to its efficient band.
The PSU is a Seasonic 330W; it runs at 45W input at idle and never more
than 120W on full load, so it should be able to supply 3A to the monitor.

I wonder if, with a monitor that has an internal PSU, if it'd be possible
to remove the borked PSU and just use the PC's PSU. Not flexible, as the
monitor would be linked to the PC, but perhaps a jack socket on the monitor
would allow it to be run from a brick instead.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

In article
,
Jethro writes

I inherited a DELL LCD monitor, which worked, but gave off some rather
funky smells ... I managed to get it apart without *too* much damage
using a knife, and prising with the long edge along the sides ... it
seemed to need a lot of the gap to be forced to get it to lift ... I
suspect that they use a proper jig in the workshop, which applies
pressure on all 4 sides simultaneously ... you may get better results
with a willing assistant (just make sure the knives aren't
pointy :-) )

Once I had the beast open I found a capacitor had started to burn
out , and the smell was the PCB charring. There were 4 identical
capacitors which seemed to be part of a power-smoothing circuit
feeding the 4 lamps round the screen. I was able to read the spec from
the 3 remaining ones, only to discover the only retail source in the
UK (online that is) was Farnell, who had a minimum delivery charge of
about £15 ...

It's still in pieces in the loft.

Dig it back out, Farnell are currently doing no min order and no post on
web orders (although you have to get right through registration and
checkout to see the delivery (non) charge, most annoying).
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

On Oct 3, 8:36*am, PeterC wrote:
Having read all this, I'm now a bit happier
that my monitor has an external PSU.

External? I thought the IPS 20WGX2 used an Integrated PSU?

What I'm looking at is running a socket from 12V Molex to
the back panel of the PC and supplying the monitor from
there. It'd get rid of the brick and also move the PC's PSU
in to its efficient band.

If the NEC input is DC 12V it is then a matter of connector polarity.
The last monitor I had with external 12V brick was an AOC.

If the PSU is external, try a PSU from wherever - Ebay, online.

I wonder if, with a monitor that has an internal PSU, if it'd be
possible to remove the borked PSU and just use the PC's
PSU. Not flexible, as the monitor would be linked to the PC,
but perhaps a jack socket on the monitor would allow it
to be run from a brick instead.

Depends on what output the PSU has, they may have used an external 12V
brick with other DC-2-DC internally.

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
Take two cold chisels and an irish screwdriver.

Use the latter to impale the former into the living room wall
put a length of scaffold plank over the pair.
Oooh, I quite like that, sort of construction chic.

It's not a joke..found in ex rental property..

--
Clint Sharp

Usenet Nutter wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:24:41 +0100, "John"
wrote:
"Phil Addison" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0100, "John"
wrote:
Whoooosh !! Sense of humour went thataway-----------------------

That's the WHOLE point of the angle grinder recommendation!! If it can
be fixed, fix it, if not angle grinder it!!!


It's still past it's sellby date as a joke


That's like saying that gravity isn't relevant any more.

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:02:34 -0700 (PDT), "js.b1"
wrote:

Sorry for the silence, I've been away, but have just paddled through the
ange grinder junk and read a few promising leads to the actual question
in hand, so thanks to those giving useful answers... gawd there's
enough spam from the nutters on here and now it looks as if i'll have to
add angle grinders to my junk filter.

On Oct 3, 8:36*am, PeterC wrote:
Having read all this, I'm now a bit happier
that my monitor has an external PSU.

External? I thought the IPS 20WGX2 used an Integrated PSU?

My 20WGX2 (its from NEC, don't know what IPS is) runs direct off 240V,
but I think we have some confusion here with a dead Dell. Do you have
actual experience of the NEC 20WGX2 ? I'm prety sure there are no screws
involved, certainly none visible, just a clamshell with a very tight and
neat join line, and no metalwork near it.

I'll try again tomorrow with the suggestions above and report back.

Phil