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Is it possible to buy a tree house off the shelf or in kit form? In some
ways this would be difficult to do as all locations will be different, but anything that would make construction easier would be welcome. Thanks |
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Is it possible to buy a tree house off the shelf or in kit form? In some ways this would be difficult to do as all locations will be different, but anything that would make construction easier would be welcome. Thanks groan You are entering a world of pain. Nothing you do will ever be good enough. I'll post some pictures of my efforts shortly... In retrospect, I'd say this: 1) Build a basic frame for the platform using normal joists. Build this in-situ, otherwise it will be too heavy to move into place. 2) If the design involves spanning 2 or more trees, you *must* allow for sway. This is *much* more than you will imagine. Many inches, even at platform height with substantial trees. My design involved suspending the main platform from shortish chain sections and eye-bolts. Other solutions would be to have only short 'supporters' attached to each tree, and have the main joists simply sitting on top of these, allowing for slippage. 3) Use normal decking for the platform. 4) If they want an 'enclosed' section, I'd suggets shoving a B+Q chaep-as-chips shed / wendyhouse on the platform, as custom building is never-ending. 5) If the joists / decking thing is overkill for your intended design, then look at simply modifying a cheap Bodgit+Quick shed / summerhouse. /groan -- Ron |
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:17:54 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:
groan You are entering a world of pain. Nothing you do will ever be good enough. Yes. OTOH, never hand over the design to the kids, either :-) (ours actually had an escape pod, just in case everything started falling down) |
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![]() "T" wrote in message ... Is it possible to buy a tree house off the shelf or in kit form? In some ways this would be difficult to do as all locations will be different, but anything that would make construction easier would be welcome. Thanks You'll spend several hundred quid and it will take three days' hard work. They'll play in it about twice, then it will be left to rot. Finally you'll spend a day taking it down because it will have become dangerous. Total waste of time, like all expensive toys. Gumpy Grandad Bill |
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Owain wrote:
On 31 Aug, 20:05, "Bill Wright" wrote: Total waste of time, like all expensive toys. Gumpy Grandad Bill It's much easier to make the treehouse first, from a scaffold tower and a shed, and then plant some leylandii around it. Easier to get approval from the OIC Domestic because it's "fur the weans" and you end up with a shed with a fantastic view of the bird next door sunbathing, which the OIC Domestic will never know about because she won't climb the ladder. I've visited a garden which has something a bit like that - but the top is a viewing platform - not closed in. |
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Just out of interest, *could* planning permission be needed for a treehouse
2.mumble meters high and in the front of the house. No reason *cough* |
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Tim S wrote:
Just out of interest, *could* planning permission be needed for a treehouse 2.mumble meters high and in the front of the house. No reason *cough* ![]() |
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Owain wrote:
On 31 Aug, 20:40, S Viemeister wrote: I've visited a garden which has something a bit like that - but the top is a viewing platform - not closed in. Need the roof to keep the bird droppings off the flat screen telly and the beer fridge :-) This place has a separate building for drinks and food - it's big enough to be a small restaurant. I didn't notice a TV, but there probably is one. They have some really nice greenhouses, too. |
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![]() On 31/08/2009 21:27, in article , "Tim S" wrote: Just out of interest, *could* planning permission be needed for a treehouse 2.mumble meters high and in the front of the house. No reason *cough* In fact, the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (No 2) England Order 2008 (that't the recent rules to allow "more" things to not require planning permission) states that "raised platforms" with the curtilage of the property are not not considered permitted development - E.1(g). This implies planning permission is required. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20082362_en_1 IANAL, and if I'm horribly wrong I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will contradict me! |
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![]() "Piers Finlayson" wrote in message ... On 31/08/2009 21:27, in article , "Tim S" wrote: Just out of interest, *could* planning permission be needed for a treehouse 2.mumble meters high and in the front of the house. No reason *cough* In fact, the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (No 2) England Order 2008 (that't the recent rules to allow "more" things to not require planning permission) states that "raised platforms" with the curtilage of the property are not not considered permitted development - E.1(g). This implies planning permission is required. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20082362_en_1 IANAL, and if I'm horribly wrong I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will contradict me! You mean "(i) it would consist of or include- . (i) the construction or provision of a veranda, balcony or raised platform," Isn't that designed to ensure you need planning permission for decks above a certain height? Just what height it becomes raised is the question. |
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Bill Wright wrote:
"T" wrote in message ... Is it possible to buy a tree house off the shelf or in kit form? In some ways this would be difficult to do as all locations will be different, but anything that would make construction easier would be welcome. Thanks You'll spend several hundred quid and it will take three days' hard work. They'll play in it about twice, then it will be left to rot. Finally you'll spend a day taking it down because it will have become dangerous. Total waste of time, like all expensive toys. Gumpy Grandad Bill Alas I agree. Did the same, work of art, SWMBO now wants rid of it. Why do we bother? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Piers Finlayson" wrote in message ... On 31/08/2009 21:27, in article , "Tim S" wrote: Just out of interest, *could* planning permission be needed for a treehouse 2.mumble meters high and in the front of the house. No reason *cough* In fact, the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (No 2) England Order 2008 (that't the recent rules to allow "more" things to not require planning permission) states that "raised platforms" with the curtilage of the property are not not considered permitted development - E.1(g). This implies planning permission is required. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20082362_en_1 IANAL, and if I'm horribly wrong I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will contradict me! You mean "(i) it would consist of or include- . (i) the construction or provision of a veranda, balcony or raised platform," Isn't that designed to ensure you need planning permission for decks above a certain height? You do. Just what height it becomes raised is the question. 30cm. I can't however get a definition of what comprises a 'deck' as opposed to a 'step' or a definition of 'ground'. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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