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New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the
router.

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.

Sorry it is OT, but I thought someone here might know and I am trying
to DIY.



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On 28/08/09 20:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the router.



start "dos" window (cmd.exe) and type IPCONFIG /ALL

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.


either reserve a specific IP address for the MAC address in the router's
DHCP config, or if that isn't allowed by the router, just manually
assign IP address on laptop instead of setting it for DHCP


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Andy Burns has brought this to us :
On 28/08/09 20:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the router.



start "dos" window (cmd.exe) and type IPCONFIG /ALL


Thanks, got that set up now.


2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.


either reserve a specific IP address for the MAC address in the router's DHCP
config, or if that isn't allowed by the router, just manually assign IP
address on laptop instead of setting it for DHCP


DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I
get in to configure the laptops IP?

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:

DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I get
in to configure the laptops IP?


1. Click Start and click Control Panel.
2. Select Network and Internet, then Network and Sharing Center, and
click Manage network connections from the list of tasks.
3. Right click your local area connection and click Properties.
4. Select Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) from the list and click the
Properties button.
5. Select Use the following IP address.
6. Enter in the IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway
information provided to you.
7. Enter in the IP address of the DNS servers your computer will use.
8. Click OK.


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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:13:37 UTC, Harry Bloomfield
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Andy Burns has brought this to us :
On 28/08/09 20:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the router.



start "dos" window (cmd.exe) and type IPCONFIG /ALL


Thanks, got that set up now.


2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.


either reserve a specific IP address for the MAC address in the router's DHCP
config, or if that isn't allowed by the router, just manually assign IP
address on laptop instead of setting it for DHCP


DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I
get in to configure the laptops IP?


You do realise that DHCP can be used to hand out fixed IPs? I do it all
the time. You associate the IP with the MAC address in the DHCP server,
as stated above. Not that all DHCP servers support it...

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Adrian C formulated the question :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I get in
to configure the laptops IP?


1. Click Start and click Control Panel.
2. Select Network and Internet, then Network and Sharing Center, and
click Manage network connections from the list of tasks.
3. Right click your local area connection and click Properties.
4. Select Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) from the list and click the
Properties button.
5. Select Use the following IP address.
6. Enter in the IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway information
provided to you.
7. Enter in the IP address of the DNS servers your computer will use.
8. Click OK.


Thanks again, that got it connected :-)

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Bob Eager has brought this to us :
You do realise that DHCP can be used to hand out fixed IPs? I do it all
the time. You associate the IP with the MAC address in the DHCP server,
as stated above. Not that all DHCP servers support it...


This one doesn't support handing out fixed IP's, only IP's from a
range.

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:56:08 UTC, Rod wrote:

Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:13:37 UTC, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Andy Burns has brought this to us :
On 28/08/09 20:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the router.

start "dos" window (cmd.exe) and type IPCONFIG /ALL
Thanks, got that set up now.

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.
either reserve a specific IP address for the MAC address in the router's DHCP
config, or if that isn't allowed by the router, just manually assign IP
address on laptop instead of setting it for DHCP
DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I
get in to configure the laptops IP?


You do realise that DHCP can be used to hand out fixed IPs? I do it all
the time. You associate the IP with the MAC address in the DHCP server,
as stated above. Not that all DHCP servers support it...

Wholeheartedly agree. But there are a couple of downsides...

I found that sometimes a printer would get switched on when the router
was not. So it would end up with some odd IP. Cleared by simply
switching the printer off and on again.

And if you change your router, you have to set all the IPs up again. And
maybe it isn't the best time to do so because router replacement is all
too often unplanned.


Ah well...I don't use the DHCP server in the router!

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the
router.

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.

Sorry it is OT, but I thought someone here might know and I am trying
to DIY.


You may as well turn off MAC address filtering on the router as it's next to
useless anyway.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

A better mechanism would be to use the private LAN IP range 10.x.x.x instead
of the 192.168.x.x range which anyone sniffing about wireless networks would
be scanning on anyway. Keeping DHCP off where possible also assists.

Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



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Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:13:37 UTC, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Andy Burns has brought this to us :
On 28/08/09 20:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the router.

start "dos" window (cmd.exe) and type IPCONFIG /ALL

Thanks, got that set up now.

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.
either reserve a specific IP address for the MAC address in the router's DHCP
config, or if that isn't allowed by the router, just manually assign IP
address on laptop instead of setting it for DHCP

DHCP can not be used, I must give the laptop a fixed IP. So how do I
get in to configure the laptops IP?


You do realise that DHCP can be used to hand out fixed IPs? I do it all
the time. You associate the IP with the MAC address in the DHCP server,
as stated above. Not that all DHCP servers support it...

Wholeheartedly agree. But there are a couple of downsides...

I found that sometimes a printer would get switched on when the router
was not. So it would end up with some odd IP. Cleared by simply
switching the printer off and on again.

And if you change your router, you have to set all the IPs up again. And
maybe it isn't the best time to do so because router replacement is all
too often unplanned.

As for the MAC address, it is often on the box and/or on a label on the
actual machine.

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the
router.

2. I also need to set up or give the laptop a specific IP number.

Sorry it is OT, but I thought someone here might know and I am trying
to DIY.


You may as well turn off MAC address filtering on the router as it's next
to useless anyway.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

A better mechanism would be to use the private LAN IP range 10.x.x.x
instead of the 192.168.x.x range which anyone sniffing about wireless
networks would be scanning on anyway. Keeping DHCP off where possible also
assists.

Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.


WiFi is easy to secure.. just treat it the same as any other public network
and secure access to all machines connected to it as you would the internet
side.

This means using encrypted connections.


The last company WiFi I setup was completely open but secure.
It was tunnelled through the company LAN to the outside of the company
firewall and terminated on the internet side.
To access anything internal required the user to use exactly the same access
methods as if they were on a WiFi in a McDonalds.
It was intended to provide internet access for visitors as well as some
roaming capability for the MD BTW.

A home user can achieve similar results if they have a DMZ port on their
internet router and a second router to use for the WiFi. Note that some
routers have proper DMZ ports not just some half baked default address
called DMZ.

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Davey submitted this idea :
You may as well turn off MAC address filtering on the router as it's next to
useless anyway.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

A better mechanism would be to use the private LAN IP range 10.x.x.x instead
of the 192.168.x.x range which anyone sniffing about wireless networks would
be scanning on anyway. Keeping DHCP off where possible also assists.


I'm on a private and dedicated personally to me IP range.

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
New Vista laptop and I'm trying to find out....

1. The MAC of the wireless card, so I can allow it access via the
router.


You may as well turn off MAC address filtering on the router as it's
next to useless anyway.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

A better mechanism would be to use the private LAN IP range 10.x.x.x
instead of the 192.168.x.x range which anyone sniffing about wireless
networks would be scanning on anyway. Keeping DHCP off where possible
also assists.

Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.


WiFi is easy to secure..


snip

A home user can achieve similar results if they have a DMZ port on
their internet router and a second router to use for the WiFi. Note
that some routers have proper DMZ ports not just some half baked
default address called DMZ.


FSVO 'easy'
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Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



not if you just want to get you laptop out on the kitchen table and do
something they aren't.

Horses, courses etc.

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Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



not if you just want to get you laptop out on the kitchen table and do
something they aren't.

Horses, courses etc.


True enough, but if the signal is weak or you're fighting with all the
neighbours' wireless networks which aew on close channels, and your
connection keeps dropping, they are fantastic

There's a lot to be said for having a solid connection.





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Davey wrote:
chris French wrote:
In message m, Davey
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Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



not if you just want to get you laptop out on the kitchen table and do
something they aren't.

Horses, courses etc.

True enough, but if the signal is weak or you're fighting with all
the neighbours' wireless networks which aew on close channels, and
your connection keeps dropping, they are fantastic
There's a lot to be said for having a solid connection.

I used to think that. But since a)( getting an Apple Airport Extreme
router and b) getting a new laptop, I am really not sure any more.
Reliability is excellent - never have a problem. And speed is not an
issue any more. Last night, for example, I was downloading at what was
claimed to be 1.1 MB/sec.


I'm still lie to choose my horse for the course.

There is indeed much to be said for a solid connection. we have 4 pcs in
3 rooms here all wired. Much faster then wireless and always reliable.

Ok, if you are just talking about web traffic then no, it is not going
to be an issue normally. but for an internal network shifting larger
files around it really makes a difference (eg downloading files from the
digi camera in the study to be stored on the server in the cellar is
much quicker than doing it on one of the laptops over WiFi.

And whilst ours is generally reliable, it's a biggsh victorian house,
solid walls and all that, I've only really just about managed to get a
reliable decent connection over the all house.

but if I want to flop on the sofa, sit at the kitchen table or lie in
bed the WiFi is great :-)
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Davey wrote:
chris French wrote:
In message m,
Davey writes
Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



not if you just want to get you laptop out on the kitchen table
and do something they aren't.

Horses, courses etc.
True enough, but if the signal is weak or you're fighting with all
the neighbours' wireless networks which aew on close channels, and
your connection keeps dropping, they are fantastic
There's a lot to be said for having a solid connection.

I used to think that. But since a)( getting an Apple Airport Extreme
router and b) getting a new laptop, I am really not sure any more.
Reliability is excellent - never have a problem. And speed is not an
issue any more. Last night, for example, I was downloading at what
was claimed to be 1.1 MB/sec.


I'm still lie to choose my horse for the course.

There is indeed much to be said for a solid connection. we have 4 pcs
in 3 rooms here all wired. Much faster then wireless and always
reliable.
Ok, if you are just talking about web traffic then no, it is not going
to be an issue normally. but for an internal network shifting larger
files around it really makes a difference (eg downloading files from
the digi camera in the study to be stored on the server in the cellar
is much quicker than doing it on one of the laptops over WiFi.

And whilst ours is generally reliable, it's a biggsh victorian house,
solid walls and all that, I've only really just about managed to get a
reliable decent connection over the all house.

but if I want to flop on the sofa, sit at the kitchen table or lie in
bed the WiFi is great :-)


Was that a typo? WiFi or WiFe?

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but if I want to flop on the sofa, sit at the kitchen table or lie in
bed the WiFi is great :-)


Was that a typo? WiFi or WiFe?

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WiFe of course, WiFi is no good for bringing you a cuppa :-)
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Davey wrote:
chris French wrote:
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Even better, dump wifi and get homeplugs which are fantastic.



not if you just want to get you laptop out on the kitchen table and do
something they aren't.

Horses, courses etc.


True enough, but if the signal is weak or you're fighting with all the
neighbours' wireless networks which aew on close channels, and your
connection keeps dropping, they are fantastic

There's a lot to be said for having a solid connection.



I used to think that. But since a)( getting an Apple Airport Extreme
router and b) getting a new laptop, I am really not sure any more.
Reliability is excellent - never have a problem. And speed is not an
issue any more. Last night, for example, I was downloading at what was
claimed to be 1.1 MB/sec. (That corresponded with total download
time/size of file as well.) Can't get anything like that at work!

(We do have lots of other wireless stuff in the area. But we never
notice anything being affected.)

Sure, local connections would be faster with a wired system, but when
even gigabytes can transfer in sensibly finite time, I really don't care
any more.

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