My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Keefiedee
wrote:

My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

Find a Dulux Decorator Centre (Trade place) .. they will colour the
paint until you have what you want. They will slso give you a record
of what has gone in to achieve the colour for further use.

Mike P

Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

I had dulux mixed up on a builders mercahnts. They have a selection of
dyes and a few base colors.

In essence any color you like can be mixed up, BUT you have to
understand how to translate 'I want X' into '3cc of Y, 32cc of Z and
10cc of P in a substrate Q' which is all they will be able to do.

Get a color chart and star with the closest match, and then ask whet the
minimum quantity they will mix is, and mix a test pot, slap it on and
let it dry, and then go back and say 'a little less x this time' etc.

Really if you are prepared to spend teh time and money, you will get as
close as you like..

Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

A Johstones branch will colour match any of their competitors paints as
well. So there is a fair chance they will simply be able to look up your
original colour and mix it. Failing that they have extensive swatch
cards - again choose one that matches, and they will mix based on the
instructions on that. They also have scanning capabilities usually, and
can colour scan and match something if you have it printed etc.

Last time I needed an obscure colour, I only had a mixing stick that had
some of the previous colour on it. Took that in, and they matched a
swatch to it.

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Cheers,

John.

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Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

I do not know about other branches, but my local Johnstone's branch is
extremely helpful and knowledgeable. [1] I suggest dropping in and
asking for their help - it seems likely that the people in your area
would have come across this question regarding local buildings.

[1] I do work for a part of the company that owns Johnstone's/Leyland
but have nothing to do with paint.

--
Rod

On 21 Aug, 17:04, Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. *Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. *I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

I'd second finding a local trade place used by professionals and
seeking their advice.
Is there anything usable in the tin, or on the label, or that can be
chipped from a wall to allow them to scan and match?
My impression is that when they make up or match a specific colour,
they combine the necesary volume of the primary colours according to
the volume of paint you need. That is then added and mixed to the tin
of white base paint.
Does that need to be a special base, or if they added it to a tin of
white paint of your chosen make, would that work? They should know.

In any event, if the source sample is from the tin or contents it will
be different to the weathered paint. A weathered sample should give a
close match. When repapering and painting half a ceiling, I got a
piece of the scraped paper scanned and matched. I know and can see
where the fuzzy join is but it wouldn't be obvious to anyone else.
Otherwise, doing a closest colur match from these colour chart cards
for getting the paint made up specially will probably be as good as
you can get, or need.

Toom

In message
, Toom
Tabard writes
On 21 Aug, 17:04, Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. *Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. *I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

I'd second finding a local trade place used by professionals and
seeking their advice.
Is there anything usable in the tin, or on the label, or that can be
chipped from a wall to allow them to scan and match?
My impression is that when they make up or match a specific colour,
they combine the necesary volume of the primary colours according to
the volume of paint you need. That is then added and mixed to the tin
of white base paint.
Does that need to be a special base, or if they added it to a tin of
white paint of your chosen make, would that work? They should know.

In any event, if the source sample is from the tin or contents it will
be different to the weathered paint. A weathered sample should give a
close match.

Until the new paint weathers, anyway ...


--
geoff

Mike wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Keefiedee
wrote:

My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

Find a Dulux Decorator Centre (Trade place) .. they will colour the
paint until you have what you want. They will slso give you a record
of what has gone in to achieve the colour for further use.

Mike P

There's a Dulux trade center in Whiffler Road in Norwich. Have a chat
first and tell them you're doing a major conversion or somesuch and
they'll give you a discount card.

Traditionally taciturn lot (if not gloomy) but know their stuff and are
helpful.

Peter Scott

On Aug 21, 5:04*pm, Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. *Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. *I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith


Modern masonry paint is entirely the wrong stuff for most 1650
constructions. Medieval buildings normally rely on damp evaporating
from the walls to avoid problems such as rot, which is often
structural with such properties.

The standard recommendation from SPAB et al is lime paint. To make
this pink you can colour it with iron oxide rather than the
traditional suffolk pink, which is animal blood added to lime paint.

I've used lime, and it lasts just fine. And of course it costs about
£6 for a lifetime's supply of it.


NT

Toom Tabard wrote:
On 21 Aug, 17:04, Keefiedee wrote:
My 1650s Norfolk farmhouse is pink - as far as we can tell from an old
paint tin left behind by the previous owners, Sandtex Dusky Pink.
This is, of course, no longer listed. Enquiries in local DIY shops
and builder's merchants are rather confusing, but I gather
Weathershield can be mixed to order, but only certain colours. I see
from a Google search that Johnstone's do a dusky pink which might be a
fair match, but I can't even begin to understand their colour charts.
Can anyone give us any advice about how best to go about getting a
reasonable match - given that we haven't the time or the energy to
repaint the whole place at once!

Keith

I'd second finding a local trade place used by professionals and
seeking their advice.
Is there anything usable in the tin, or on the label, or that can be
chipped from a wall to allow them to scan and match?
My impression is that when they make up or match a specific colour,
they combine the necesary volume of the primary colours according to
the volume of paint you need. That is then added and mixed to the tin
of white base paint.
Does that need to be a special base, or if they added it to a tin of
white paint of your chosen make, would that work? They should know.

In any event, if the source sample is from the tin or contents it will
be different to the weathered paint. A weathered sample should give a
close match. When repapering and painting half a ceiling, I got a
piece of the scraped paper scanned and matched. I know and can see
where the fuzzy join is but it wouldn't be obvious to anyone else.
Otherwise, doing a closest colur match from these colour chart cards
for getting the paint made up specially will probably be as good as
you can get, or need.

Toom

The companies produce multiple base paints. Maybe, dark, red, light and
so on. Not sure how many different ones. But adding pigment to white
paint would not create the range of colours that they can achieve.

--
Rod