I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

If you have a large garden, hire a chipper and or a chainsaw, and reduce
the small sttuff to shreds and the large stuff to logs.

Pile the logs up and use as firewood, or sell as such..and simply leave
the small stuff in a pile, or dig a hole and bury it.

It will compost itself.

I managed to dispose of most of a demolished extension, apart from the
good bits that I traded as hard core to a farm, for a ton of stable
manure..by digging a large hole and burying it. The garden now has a
nice rolling aspect and surprsingly, things grow like mad on top of the
buried muck.

On Aug 19, 10:56*am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. *Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. *This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

If you have a large garden, hire a chipper and or a chainsaw, and reduce
the small sttuff to shreds and the large stuff to logs.

Pile the logs up and use as firewood, or sell as such..and simply leave
the small stuff in a pile, or dig a hole and bury it.

It will compost itself.

I managed to dispose of most of a demolished extension, apart from the
good bits that I traded as hard core to a farm, for a ton of stable
manure..by digging a large hole and burying it. The garden now has a
nice rolling aspect and surprsingly, things grow like mad on top of the
buried muck.

As I mentioned in my original post I will be removing them on a
regular basis, I don't have the time or energy to do them all in one
go. The plan is to remove one or two a week, this would make hiring a
shredder/chipper very expensive.
I should have pointed out that I am talking about the disposal of the
foliage and smaller branches. The larger stuff will be put aside for a
later date when we will be reinstating the open fire in the living
room. The garden is large but there is no area I would want to bury
such a quantity of foliage, I have most of the garden producing food!!

John wrote:

As I mentioned in my original post I will be removing them on a
regular basis, I don't have the time or energy to do them all in one
go. The plan is to remove one or two a week, this would make hiring a
shredder/chipper very expensive.

Buy one, they're cheap enough.

Oh, also consider re-planting leylandii but keeping them in check this
time. They make a really good hedge, better than yew IMO. The only
things wrong with leylandii are Daily Mail readers, Guardian readers,
radio 4 listeners and other assorted ****wits who consider "Leylandii"
to be pronounced "Antichrist". Keep the height down and trim once or
twice a year and you will have a tidy, thick barrier against burglars,
stray cats and dogs and your hedge will also filter out noise, dust and
pollution.

Steve Firth wrote:

Oh, also consider re-planting leylandii but keeping them in check this
time. They make a really good hedge, better than yew IMO. The only
things wrong with leylandii are Daily Mail readers, Guardian readers,
radio 4 listeners and other assorted ****wits who consider "Leylandii"
to be pronounced "Antichrist". Keep the height down and trim once or
twice a year and you will have a tidy, thick barrier against burglars,
stray cats and dogs and your hedge will also filter out noise, dust and
pollution.

My experience of leylandii was not good. I had them chain sawed last
May/June. I did this because holding the hedge trimmer at the hight I
wanted to cut them to made my arms ache. The last time I cut them after
the spring growth, it took me 2 days to cut, rake up the trimmings and
dispose of them. I decided that I was getting too old to keep doing this
job.

Another problem I encountered was that the growth of the shoot's
thickness prevented me getting the top of the hedge down to the level I
wanted, becausde the hedge trimmer did not have a large enough entry gap
for the shoots. Many is the time I have had to get out the pruners,
or even a bow saw, to cut back the thick shoots. I always trimmed them
twice a year, after the growing season, or they would get out of hand.

I'm glad to see the back of them.

Dave

Dave wrote:

My experience of leylandii was not good. I had them chain sawed last
May/June. I did this because holding the hedge trimmer at the hight I
wanted to cut them to made my arms ache. The last time I cut them after
the spring growth, it took me 2 days to cut, rake up the trimmings and
dispose of them. I decided that I was getting too old to keep doing this
job.

Err yes, that's because someone let them grow into trees. All hedges
have to be kept artificially stunted. Have you seen the size of either
beech or yew left to grow wild? Yet people plant beech hedges and yew
hedges and manage to keep them in check.

John wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:56 am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John
If you have a large garden, hire a chipper and or a chainsaw, and reduce
the small sttuff to shreds and the large stuff to logs.

Pile the logs up and use as firewood, or sell as such..and simply leave
the small stuff in a pile, or dig a hole and bury it.

It will compost itself.

I managed to dispose of most of a demolished extension, apart from the
good bits that I traded as hard core to a farm, for a ton of stable
manure..by digging a large hole and burying it. The garden now has a
nice rolling aspect and surprsingly, things grow like mad on top of the
buried muck.

As I mentioned in my original post I will be removing them on a
regular basis, I don't have the time or energy to do them all in one
go. The plan is to remove one or two a week, this would make hiring a
shredder/chipper very expensive.

I should have pointed out that I am talking about the disposal of the
foliage and smaller branches. The larger stuff will be put aside for a
later date when we will be reinstating the open fire in the living
room. The garden is large but there is no area I would want to bury
such a quantity of foliage, I have most of the garden producing food!!

If you're only going to be burning the smaller stuff, you could probably
get yourself a small shredder that will manage what you would otherwise
burn. Once shredded, it makes very good mulch/weed suppressor or it can
be added to compost heaps.

We got a 2nd hand AL-KO shredder on ebay for about £80 that's seen us
well for several years.

"John" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 10:56 am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

If you have a large garden, hire a chipper and or a chainsaw, and reduce
the small sttuff to shreds and the large stuff to logs.

Pile the logs up and use as firewood, or sell as such..and simply leave
the small stuff in a pile, or dig a hole and bury it.

It will compost itself.

I managed to dispose of most of a demolished extension, apart from the
good bits that I traded as hard core to a farm, for a ton of stable
manure..by digging a large hole and burying it. The garden now has a
nice rolling aspect and surprsingly, things grow like mad on top of the
buried muck.

As I mentioned in my original post I will be removing them on a
regular basis, I don't have the time or energy to do them all in one
go. The plan is to remove one or two a week, this would make hiring a
shredder/chipper very expensive.
I should have pointed out that I am talking about the disposal of the
foliage and smaller branches. The larger stuff will be put aside for a
later date when we will be reinstating the open fire in the living
room. The garden is large but there is no area I would want to bury
such a quantity of foliage, I have most of the garden producing food!!


Leyland produce a sticky soot residue that will catch fire up the flue if
used excessively. So watch out.

On 19 Aug, 10:39, johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis,

Saw to 18" or so, then quarter with a splitting wedge or a "log
grenade" (these are great for bulk Leylandii). Split one into 1"
sticks for kindling, or use the brash.

Burn them in a "guarded" incinerator. It doesn't need to be a sealed
box, but it should have some sort of cage to guard against exploding
logs. Leylandii is highly resinous and burns ferociously (search back
for the E-type Jag story). Load up one log at a time and expect
fireworks and sparks. If burning Leylandii in a sealed woodstove, the
gases it evolves are flammable. Watch for flare-ups if you open the
lid and suddenly allow air in there.

Personally I'd regard this stuff as useful fuel and horde it for
camping bonfires (sitting well back!). Most of my camping partners are
hippy foresters anyway. If you have to buy something to destroy it, a
thin steel dustbin with a chimney is adequate and cheap.

On 19 Aug, 12:15, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 19 Aug, 10:39, johno wrote:

I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis,

Saw to 18" or so, then quarter with a splitting wedge or a "log
grenade" (these are great for bulk Leylandii). Split one into 1"
sticks for kindling, or use the brash.

Burn them in a "guarded" incinerator. It doesn't need to be a sealed
box, but it should have some sort of cage to guard against exploding
logs. Leylandii is highly resinous and burns ferociously (search back
for the E-type Jag story). Load up one log at a time and expect
fireworks and sparks. *If burning Leylandii in a sealed woodstove, the
gases it evolves are flammable. Watch for flare-ups if you open the
lid and suddenly allow air in there.

Personally I'd regard this stuff as useful fuel and horde it for
camping bonfires (sitting well back!). Most of my camping partners are
hippy foresters anyway. If you have to buy something to destroy it, a
thin steel dustbin with a chimney is adequate and cheap.

Yes - I wouldn't recommend it for any form household burning. It is
too resinous and consequently flares up/ explodes, plus is likely to
deposit tars on the flue.with the hazard of a blocked flue or chimney
fire.

If most of your garden is producing food, then there will be areas
which have been harvested and will surely be able to take a bonfire.
I grow a lot of vegetables too with an area totaling about 25m x 40m
under cultivation and always manage the ground in such a way that
there is space for a bonfire particularly from now onwards.

Rob

johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

What's wrong with something like:
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_garden-incinerator.jpg

Not sure what the 'batch' aspect is to what you're seeking (unless it's
very much larger, which may be the disadvantage of the above)

David

On Aug 19, 2:04*pm, Lobster wrote:
johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. *Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. *This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

What's wrong with something like:
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_garden-incinerator.jpg

Not sure what the 'batch' aspect is to what you're seeking (unless it's
very much larger, which may be the disadvantage of the above)

David

As I was explained by a friend a batch incinerator is very similar to
a standard garden incinerator, but larger and burns much hotter due to
its design, you load it up via the top (pack it tight) replace and
secure the lid/chimney and light via a hole at the base. Stand back
and watch it go! apparently it burns very hot and produces very little
smoke.
Looks like a standard garden item will be the way to go and for the
larger stuff a habitat pile; sounds too iffy for burning indoors ;-)))

Lobster wrote:

johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

What's wrong with something like:
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_garden-incinerator.jpg

Works fine - ONCE! After that it quickly rusts away if left outside.

Alan
--
email ~= s/nospam//

Alan wrote:
Lobster wrote:

johno wrote:
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is
emptied once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load
the beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is
not the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I
cannot find anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.
John

What's wrong with something like:
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_garden-incinerator.jpg

Works fine - ONCE! After that it quickly rusts away if left outside.

Unless you spray it with WD40 :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Lobster wrote:

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_garden-incinerator.jpg

Not sure what the 'batch' aspect is to what you're seeking (unless it's
very much larger, which may be the disadvantage of the above)

This will tend to be smoky, it lacks the basic requirements for a clean
burn, the three Ts.

The problem is this sort of thing cannot provide enough secondary air so
many products of incomplete combustion are simply vented to atmosphere.

It can be simply modified by the strategic addition of a small centrifugal
fan to form a mini air curtain incinerator.

These things need a few minutes to heat up but thereafter as long as the
woody waste overages below 50% moisture content they remain visibly clean.

Fresh leylandii foliage will need wilting from 200% moisture content.

AJH

I'll have some of the branches for my pizza oven/self cremator
project

johno wrote:

I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem.

Leylandii make decent logs, although they burn a bit fast and the
branches and foliage make excellent compost when shredded. Why bother
burning them prematurely? Cut down, grub out the roots, strip off side
branches and shred, then compost the chippings. Leylandii breaks down
spectacularly quickly and makes first rate compost.

Take the trunks, saw into sections and burn them over winter, that's
winter 2010, not 2009.

In message
,
johno writes
I have a large garden surrounded by Leylandii and will be removing
them on a regular basis, however disposing of the evidence is a
problem. The green recycling bin only holds half a tree and is emptied
once a fortnight, at that rate it will take me years!
Not practical to have a bonfire due to layout of garden, but I was
told about a home made batch incinerator by a friend. Simply load the
beast up, fasten the lid, light it up and away you go. This is not
the same as a regular garden incinerator apparently, but I cannot find
anything on the web.
Any help appreciated.

The 210 litre steel drum incinerator was in agricultural use until being
banned (for plastic spray cans) from last year.

I believe the design was tested by Silsoe College of Agriculture and
specified as follows....

From the bottom.. 11 holes equally spaced, 50mm dia. 150mm from the
bottom.

then 8 holes equally spaced, 60mm dia. 440mm from the bottom.

You need a grid/grate at 190mm from the bottom. Mine uses strong
expanded metal but anything above 3mm wire will probably do. Big chunks
of wood, incautiously thrown in, will bend the red hot grate!

There is no lid. Stand well clear of overhanging branches as flame
length can be several feet.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

Thanks to everyone for their input, I have now decided to do the
following,
1. Buy a shredder to deal with the greenery and smaller branches
2. Create a habitat pile with the heavier un shredable branches and
burn them in a small open brazier on an as and when basis.
3. Use the trunks for some form of garden construction, ie as edging
for a border or a low raised bed.
4. Keep a few of the trees minus their foliage but still in the ground
as hammock slinging points!

Thanks again for the very useful and constructive advice.

John

Does ANYONE have any information about the Silsoe Oil Barrel/Drum Incerator
conversion ? I need to get the correct drawings or specific dimensions of
the vent holes & internal grate height for this incinerator.

geebee

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/1391145360.aspx

On 20 Nov, 09:48, "G wrote:
Does ANYONE have any information about the Silsoe Oil Barrel/Drum Incerator
conversion ? I need to get the correct drawings or specific dimensions of
the vent holes & internal grate height for this incinerator.

I've always made the vent holes with a precision broaching operation
over a tapered self-piercing mandrel.

Or "pickaxe", as most people know it.

Andy Dingley
wibbled on Friday 20 November 2009 11:40

On 20 Nov, 09:48, "G wrote:
Does ANYONE have any information about the Silsoe Oil Barrel/Drum
Incerator conversion ? I need to get the correct drawings or specific
dimensions of the vent holes & internal grate height for this
incinerator.

I've always made the vent holes with a precision broaching operation
over a tapered self-piercing mandrel.

Or "pickaxe", as most people know it.

Didn't use the Clarkson sheet metal hole boring method then?

(Shotgun)

--
Tim Watts

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