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Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called
and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Si |
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called fugenboy |
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On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...mover%20Too l |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...mover%20Too l I *searched* for smoother and it showed me paint! Thanks. Si |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called fugenboy There's no call to be rude. Ta Si |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called fugenboy If you're really stuck, as I was one day, then B&Q sell an Evo-Stick "sealant bead tool" which will do the job, just. |
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) SF do Fugenboy, Plumbworld do Fugi (I prefer the latter) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...mover%20Too l Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 1 June, 22:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A... Nope! *Thats not a fugenboy. *Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 1 June, 22:00, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A... Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. M'lud, the OP asked for "Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant". I put it to the jury, that they suggestion made by our usually learned colleague is pants. Those Unibond rigid plastic things are hopeless. The OP was clearly after a Fuegenboy. My case rests. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:27:34 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called fugenboy If you're really stuck, as I was one day, then B&Q sell an Evo-Stick "sealant bead tool" which will do the job, just. If you want a smooth line on something like sealing a bath, try using an ice cube. Use the heat from your hands to melt the sharp corners off, then use the shape you've made to run along the line of mastic and you'll get a nice, smooth finish to it. |
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On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:27:34 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
If you're really stuck, as I was one day, then B&Q sell an Evo-Stick "sealant bead tool" which will do the job, just. Hopeless Base also have something normally on sale with one of those promotional video things associated. Very impressive demos but watch them carefully, both sides of the sealant bead are smooth and flat, they carefully avoid showing what happens if the tool encounters a grout line... It's a set of three(?) bits of soft plastic with various sized radiused corners. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 1 June, 22:28, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 1 June, 22:00, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 1 June, 21:00, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) That'll be a sealant smoother then and yes they do - link probably too long to work so might need copying and pasting http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A.... Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. M'lud, the OP asked for "Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant". *I put it to the jury, that they suggestion made by our usually learned colleague is pants. *Those Unibond rigid plastic things are hopeless. The OP was clearly after a Fuegenboy. *My case rests. I would urge m'learned to take back spurious, nay, calumnious accusations of pantage as there are many things that would do the job, albeit with varying degrees of success/professionalism...sealant smoothers come in many shapes and forms from Unibond et al through Fugenboy to wooden spoon handles and just about anything Fugen else. |
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Si MkI standard wet finger. For acrylic caulk. Or MkII scalpel, for silicone, after its set.. |
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On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:38:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
had this to say: Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Si MkI standard wet finger. That's exactly the traditional way of doing it. -- Frank Erskine |
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Lino expert wrote:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A... Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. M'lud, the OP asked for "Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant". I put it to the jury, that they suggestion made by our usually learned colleague is pants. Those Unibond rigid plastic things are hopeless. The OP was clearly after a Fuegenboy. My case rests. I would urge m'learned to take back spurious, nay, calumnious accusations of pantage as there are many things that would do the job, albeit with varying degrees of success/professionalism...sealant smoothers come in many shapes and forms from Unibond et al through Fugenboy to wooden spoon handles and just about anything Fugen else. I call upon my expert witness Alan A Daiswerk, professor of sealant at Bath University. "Extensive research has shown that the angle at the front of the Unibond tool is exactly the same as the angle on the front of a pair of Y fronts, thus proving the 'pants' allegation conclusively." I would also draw my learned colleagues attention to the statement by Hans Fugenfoetus, great grandson of Helmut Von Fugen the inventor. "Not only can we smooth sealant, we can make the trains run on time". Fugenboy is the true path to happiness, sealant wise. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Don't think there's any one universal solution. I have the Fugi kit and it gets quite a bit of use - but it won't work for everything. Was recently decorating some panel doors where the mouldings had moved away from the frames - old doors and central heating - and filled this with caulk, but the gap was too narrow for any of the Fugi profiles. A damp cloth worked perfectly. -- *Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 2 June, 08:13, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Lino expert wrote: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A... Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. M'lud, the OP asked for "Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant". I put it to the jury, that they suggestion made by our usually learned colleague is pants. Those Unibond rigid plastic things are hopeless. The OP was clearly after a Fuegenboy. My case rests. I would urge m'learned to take back spurious, nay, calumnious accusations of pantage as there are many things that would do the job, albeit with varying degrees of success/professionalism...sealant smoothers come in many shapes and forms from Unibond et al through Fugenboy to wooden spoon handles and just about anything Fugen else. I call upon my expert witness Alan A Daiswerk, professor of sealant at Bath University. *"Extensive research has shown that the angle at the front of the Unibond tool is exactly the same as the angle on the front of a pair of Y fronts, thus proving the 'pants' allegation conclusively." I would also draw my learned colleagues attention to the statement by Hans Fugenfoetus, great grandson of Helmut Von Fugen the inventor. *"Not only can we smooth sealant, we can make the trains run on time". Fugenboy is the true path to happiness, sealant wise. Referee! Vastly unfair to bring in references to Y-fronts, about which I know nothing nor indeed wish to. My expert witness is Timothy Leary who, amongst other things, attests that (and I quote) "hey man, anything used on the coast for the purpose is best because the seal ants moo there." Proof positive if it were needed. |
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On 2009-06-01, Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) I didn't know there was a tool. I use two lines of masking tape. |
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On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:15:16 +0100, Frank Erskine wrote:
MkI standard wet finger. That's exactly the traditional way of doing it. Always the way I've done it, too. Any time I've tried using anything else, it's just made a mess. Only read about the masking tape trick a few months ago, though - I think I might try that for the corners next time. cheers Jules |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" saying something like: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called Forefinger. |
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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message
... On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:38:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher had this to say: Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Si MkI standard wet finger. That's exactly the traditional way of doing it. -- Frank Erskine If you rub vaseline onto your finger first you won't end up in a sticky mess... [No, seriously, it acts as a release agent and is particularly helpful with the better quality sealants]. |
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" saying something like: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called Forefinger. Too bit a radius for some things, though. Like filling a gap between walls and skirting board. -- *I took an IQ test and the results were negative. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Too bit a radius for some things, though. Must get a new keyboard where the letters still show. I meant big. -- *It's this dirty because I washed it with your wife's knickers* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Adam Funk wrote:
On 2009-06-01, Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) I didn't know there was a tool. I use two lines of masking tape. Definitely the masking tape first, followed by some kind of tool to form the smooth profile. This includes thinning both edges of the profile right down to the bare tape, so when you gently peel the off tape it will leave a clean edge with a very thin but definite shoulder. I think that kind of edge is longer-lasting than a profile that tapers down to literally zero thickness (and zero strength). In practice, peeling the tape will lift off a few tiny feathers of silicone, which then need to be smoothed back down onto the profile. This part of the job needs a very delicate touch, and I've found no substitute for a bare fingertip. Haven't tried vaseline for keeping fingers non-sticky, but 50:50 washing-up liquid and water in a yogurt pot works very well indeed - the silicone just falls off into the pot. Knowing that it's going to come down to bare fingers in the end, I usually don't bother with any kind of profiling tool. Fingers and thumbs come in a range of sizes, in left- and right-handed pairs, and can make a very good-looking job. The quality of finish comes mostly from the masking tape and the lubrication. -- Ian White |
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Ian White wrote:
Adam Funk wrote: On 2009-06-01, Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) I didn't know there was a tool. I use two lines of masking tape. Definitely the masking tape first, followed by some kind of tool to form the smooth profile. This includes thinning both edges of the profile right down to the bare tape, so when you gently peel the off tape it will leave a clean edge with a very thin but definite shoulder. I think that kind of edge is longer-lasting than a profile that tapers down to literally zero thickness (and zero strength). In practice, peeling the tape will lift off a few tiny feathers of silicone, which then need to be smoothed back down onto the profile. This part of the job needs a very delicate touch, and I've found no substitute for a bare fingertip. Haven't tried vaseline for keeping fingers non-sticky, but 50:50 washing-up liquid and water in a yogurt pot works very well indeed - the silicone just falls off into the pot. Knowing that it's going to come down to bare fingers in the end, I usually don't bother with any kind of profiling tool. Fingers and thumbs come in a range of sizes, in left- and right-handed pairs, and can make a very good-looking job. The quality of finish comes mostly from the masking tape and the lubrication. I have tried the finger / tape method - and while it works, I find the results are less consistent that with a tool. However the real killer is the difference in speed - using the tool is *so* much faster and easier that I would not dream of doing it any other way these days. I am not convinced by the weakness of the edge argument - the tools typically leave a flat surface to the bead that meets the wall at 45 degrees. A finger tends to make a concave bead that meets the wall at a shallower angle. So while the tape may leave a marginally thicker edge - it backs onto a larger expanse of thin sealant. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 2 June, 08:13, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Lino expert wrote: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99849/...Sealant-Guns-A... Nope! Thats not a fugenboy. Go sit in the corner :-) Shan't p I put it to you that it's what the OP was after. So there. M'lud, the OP asked for "Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant". I put it to the jury, that they suggestion made by our usually learned colleague is pants. Those Unibond rigid plastic things are hopeless. The OP was clearly after a Fuegenboy. My case rests. I would urge m'learned to take back spurious, nay, calumnious accusations of pantage as there are many things that would do the job, albeit with varying degrees of success/professionalism...sealant smoothers come in many shapes and forms from Unibond et al through Fugenboy to wooden spoon handles and just about anything Fugen else. I call upon my expert witness Alan A Daiswerk, professor of sealant at Bath University. "Extensive research has shown that the angle at the front of the Unibond tool is exactly the same as the angle on the front of a pair of Y fronts, thus proving the 'pants' allegation conclusively." I would also draw my learned colleagues attention to the statement by Hans Fugenfoetus, great grandson of Helmut Von Fugen the inventor. "Not only can we smooth sealant, we can make the trains run on time". Fugenboy is the true path to happiness, sealant wise. Referee! Vastly unfair to bring in references to Y-fronts, about which I know nothing nor indeed wish to. You mentioned bumpy jumpers a while ago. My expert witness is Timothy Leary SNIP Sorry expert witness's have to be alive, yours croaked in 96. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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John Rumm wrote:
I have tried the finger / tape method - and while it works, I find the results are less consistent that with a tool. However the real killer is the difference in speed - using the tool is *so* much faster and easier that I would not dream of doing it any other way these days. Thats what a girlfriend once told me too. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" saying something like: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called Forefinger. Too bit a radius for some things, though. Like filling a gap between walls and skirting board. Little finger? Adam |
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Calvin Sambrook wrote:
"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:38:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher had this to say: Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called and do Screwfix sell them? No, I haven't started yet, I just can't bloody find one! :-) Si MkI standard wet finger. That's exactly the traditional way of doing it. -- Frank Erskine If you rub vaseline onto your finger first you won't end up in a sticky mess... [No, seriously, it acts as a release agent and is particularly helpful with the better quality sealants]. Having looked at the shed's dismal plastic offerings that's exactly what I'll be using - a vaselined finger! Touch your toes, missus, it's your lucky day. Si |
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" saying something like: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called Forefinger. Hmmm... it seems the digits will have to suffice after all. As an aside I ordered five worktop end strips from Screwfix this morning. None in stock at my local-ish branch at all. I also ordered a couple of tubes of silicone to save having to go out for them. Got a message on the answering machine later saying they've got no worktop ends so will be sending just the silicone! I spoke to a woman on't phone and tried to cancel but she said the order had already been depatched. I whinged and she denied it was obvious that I wouldn't want the silicone if I couldn't have the ends but then immediately changed her mind and said they'd do a full refund and I could keep the silicone FOC, so there must have been a bloke involved there somewhere. Vague apologies to any women reading but face it: you generally don't know what the **** you're talking about when it comes to DIY. Si |
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On 2 June, 20:19, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" saying something like: Those tools that give a perfect smooth line of sealant - WTF are they called Forefinger. Hmmm... it seems the digits will have to suffice after all. As an aside I ordered five worktop end strips from Screwfix this morning. None in stock at my local-ish branch at all. I also ordered a couple of tubes of silicone to save having to go out for them. Got a message on the answering machine later saying they've got no worktop ends so will be sending just the silicone! I spoke to a woman on't phone and tried to cancel but she said the order had already been depatched. I whinged and she denied it was obvious that I wouldn't want the silicone if I couldn't have the ends but then immediately changed her mind and said they'd do a full refund and I could keep the silicone FOC, so there must have been a bloke involved there somewhere. Vague apologies to any women reading but face it: you generally don't know what the **** you're talking about when it comes to DIY. Some of us know what a sealant smoother's called though, monkey boy. |
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ARWadsworth wrote: Too bit a radius for some things, though. Like filling a gap between walls and skirting board. Little finger? Still too big if you're papering. The smallest radius on a Fugi is purrfect - as well as removing any excess from wall and skirting which a finger doesn't do. -- *Not all men are annoying. Some are dead. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Some of us know what a sealant smoother's called though, monkey boy. I saw the one you pointed me to in B&Q. Piece of crap. Fugenboy was the name which eluded me, understandably too. Si |
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On 3 June, 12:38, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote: Lino expert wrote: Some of us know what a sealant smoother's called though, monkey boy. I saw the one you pointed me to in B&Q. Piece of crap. Fugenboy was the name which eluded me, understandably too. A speedy volte-face, still, hopefully you got what you were after. |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 3 June, 12:38, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" wrote: Lino expert wrote: Some of us know what a sealant smoother's called though, monkey boy. I saw the one you pointed me to in B&Q. Piece of crap. Fugenboy was the name which eluded me, understandably too. A speedy volte-face, Is that French for pants? :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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