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Anyone here done this? Since the BBQ season is now upon us and we're doing
some work round the house and I was thinking of building a BBQ, but wifey
suggested one of those dome oven things... Which I quite fancy myself.

But there's not a lot online about building one though - at least not
that half an hour with google found me last night. A few books on the
subject that get varied reviews and one site with a description making
one out of standard red bricks and another out of clay..

I suspect it's not rocket science - I can get bricks or clay and fashion
it into the corner I want to put it, just wondering if anyones actually
done it with any hints & tips..

Cheers,

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On 4 May, 15:46, Gordon Henderson wrote:
Anyone here done this? Since the BBQ season is now upon us and we're doing
some work round the house and I was thinking of building a BBQ, but wifey
suggested one of those dome oven things... Which I quite fancy myself.

But there's not a lot online about building one though - at least not
that half an hour with google found me last night. A few books on the
subject that get varied reviews and one site with a description making
one out of standard red bricks and another out of clay..

I suspect it's not rocket science - I can get bricks or clay and fashion
it into the corner I want to put it, just wondering if anyones actually
done it with any hints & tips..

Cheers,

Gordon


well I've not done it but suspect you'd need either wood and warming
up time a plenty or be making pizzas for man and beast to make it
worthwhile - must take ages to get all the thermal mass up to a pizza
cooking 250degC?

Did see some "wide mouthed" chimeneas (sp?) a while back that claimed
able to be cooked in/on?

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On 4 May, 15:46, Gordon Henderson wrote:
Anyone here done this? Since the BBQ season is now upon us and we're doing
some work round the house and I was thinking of building a BBQ, but wifey
suggested one of those dome oven things... Which I quite fancy myself.

But there's not a lot online about building one though - at least not
that half an hour with google found me last night. A few books on the
subject that get varied reviews and one site with a description making
one out of standard red bricks and another out of clay..

I suspect it's not rocket science - I can get bricks or clay and fashion
it into the corner I want to put it, just wondering if anyones actually
done it with any hints & tips..

Cheers,

Gordon


well I've not done it but suspect you'd need either wood and warming
up time a plenty or be making pizzas for man and beast to make it
worthwhile - must take ages to get all the thermal mass up to a pizza
cooking 250degC?


Indeed they do - that's not an issue for me - you make it whole day
thing. Fir it up in the morning for a few hours, pizza lunch, bake break,
cook stew that sort of thing...

Did see some "wide mouthed" chimeneas (sp?) a while back that claimed
able to be cooked in/on?


No better/worse than a BBWQ by the looks of it ...

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Gordon Henderson wrote:
Anyone here done this? Since the BBQ season is now upon us and we're
doing some work round the house and I was thinking of building a BBQ,
but wifey suggested one of those dome oven things... Which I quite
fancy myself.

But there's not a lot online about building one though - at least not
that half an hour with google found me last night. A few books on the
subject that get varied reviews and one site with a description making
one out of standard red bricks and another out of clay..

I suspect it's not rocket science - I can get bricks or clay and
fashion it into the corner I want to put it, just wondering if
anyones actually done it with any hints & tips..


I've seen it done & eaten the pizza! It seemed to be a very basic
structure.


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Gordon Henderson wrote:

I suspect it's not rocket science - I can get bricks or clay and fashion
it into the corner I want to put it, just wondering if anyones actually
done it with any hints & tips..


We have two at the farm. Both were original to the house and are built
on the wall facing the access road. We're moving and rebuilding one at
present. There's more to it than slapping some clay/bricks around.

The oven itself is either a cast iron construction, which is built into
a brick framework or a turtle shaped construction in refractory brick.

Here's how to do it with refractory brick:

http://web.tiscali.it/spirbo/ilfornoalegna/

Look at "La Realizzazione" to see how to do it.

I don't think you're going to get one of the cast-iron shells in the UK
or be able to afford to import one. They make a better job IMO since
they have the doors, control of inlet and exhaust gasses and are simple
to install (place one on the reinforced concrete base then build over it
as is shown in the guide above).


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On 5 May, 12:55, (Steve Firth) wrote:

I don't think you're going to get one of the cast-iron shells in the UK
or be able to afford to import one. They make a better job IMO since
they have the doors, control of inlet and exhaust gasses and are simple
to install (place one on the reinforced concrete base then build over it
as is shown in the guide above).


out of interest how much are they?

you may well be surprised at the reasonable costs of groupage
transport...

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On 5 May, 12:55, (Steve Firth) wrote:

I don't think you're going to get one of the cast-iron shells in the UK
or be able to afford to import one. They make a better job IMO since
they have the doors, control of inlet and exhaust gasses and are simple
to install (place one on the reinforced concrete base then build over it
as is shown in the guide above).


out of interest how much are they?


I'll have to ask someone. "Haggle" is the way that such things are
bought. Italian businesses are famous for not giving prices until a man
has been to your home, measured up and done a lot of sighing and
hand-waving. Almost all businesses mark their wares "Chiedi un
Preventivo" or "Call for a quote".

Here are some links:

http://www.materia.biz/ephrem.html
http://www.caminetti.it/files/forni.htm

Jings, that last one had some prices. It looks like they start at about
EUR 300 - which to all intents is £300 currently. However that website
is for a company in L'Aquila which is (a) close to the farm and (b)
where the earthquake hit so I don't know if their business is back to
normal yet.

At leas you can see a good range of ovens (sing. forno, pl forni) there.

It's this type: http://www.caminetti.it/forni/specialpizza.htm

that I was thinking of. As you can see it says that the thermal
insulation is of high quality and the day after they have been fired the
internal temperature will still be 250C.


you may well be surprised at the reasonable costs of groupage
transport...


Hmm, we've been shipping in produce from Italy. "****ed off by how much
it costs" is more like it. At least £150 per pallet, which can be
between 25 and 50% of the value of goods on the pallet.
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On 5 May, 15:44, (Steve Firth) wrote:
jim wrote:
On 5 May, 12:55, (Steve Firth) wrote:


I don't think you're going to get one of the cast-iron shells in the UK
or be able to afford to import one. They make a better job IMO since
they have the doors, control of inlet and exhaust gasses and are simple
to install (place one on the reinforced concrete base then build over it
as is shown in the guide above).


out of interest how much are they?


I'll have to ask someone. "Haggle" is the way that such things are
bought. Italian businesses are famous for not giving prices until a man
has been to your home, measured up and done a lot of sighing and
hand-waving. Almost all businesses mark their wares "Chiedi un
Preventivo" or "Call for a quote".

Here are some links:

http://www.materia.biz/ephrem.htmlht...iles/forni.htm

Jings, that last one had some prices. It looks like they start at about
EUR 300 - which to all intents is £300 currently. However that website
is for a company in L'Aquila which is (a) close to the farm and (b)
where the earthquake hit so I don't know if their business is back to
normal yet.

At leas you can see a good range of ovens (sing. forno, pl forni) there.

It's this type:http://www.caminetti.it/forni/specialpizza.htm

that I was thinking of. As you can see it says that the thermal
insulation is of high quality and the day after they have been fired the
internal temperature will still be 250C.

you may well be surprised at the reasonable costs of groupage
transport...


Hmm, we've been shipping in produce from Italy. "****ed off by how much
it costs" is more like it. At least £150 per pallet, which can be
between 25 and 50% of the value of goods on the pallet.


tried a quote for a full 20ft/20T container??
used to send these all the time to the Med (and further than Italy
technically)- approx £900 excluding transport at their end, but
including transport here.....
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tried a quote for a full 20ft/20T container??


I don't need something that size.

used to send these all the time to the Med (and further than Italy
technically)- approx £900 excluding transport at their end, but
including transport here.....


Fine if the business one is doing is more than a few pallets at a time.
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