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Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually
does the job, but I want to be sure. Sodium Chlorate? How far do they/does it spread sideways? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Sodium Chlorate? How far do they/does it spread sideways? Weed fabric alone will be enough - cut the light off and nothing grows. People on allotments use bits of old carpet - though I suspect your customers may think that a bit cheap ;- Sodium chlorate will poison the ground quite effectively - it won't spread far though, probably a foot at the most in the wet, depending on the strenght of application. A Glyphosphate based killer will get in the foliage and travel down to the roots in the same plant - but this isn't helpful in the case of grass, though it does kill grass quite effectively. Cheers Tim |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Sodium Chlorate? How far do they/does it spread sideways? Engine oil? That seems to have done a bloody good job when I parked something leaky on the "emergency parking" bit of my lawn (which has plastic reinforcement). |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Sodium Chlorate? How far do they/does it spread sideways? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sodium Chlorate from the Pound shop. One tub should do 10m2 but I would double the dose. Unless you know a source for Paraquat? Adam |
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:26:12 +0000, Tim S wrote:
Weed fabric alone will be enough - cut the light off and nothing grows. Well it does but not for long. Sodium chlorate will poison the ground quite effectively How long does it last in the ground? A Glyphosphate based killer will get in the foliage and travel down to the roots in the same plant And breaks down in the enviroment so you can use it to clear an area and be able to replant after a while. Chemical only treatment may not get seeds. If you don't put a fabric down they will grow under the decking. Personally I think a decent bit of weed fabric is all you need. -- Cheers Dave. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. |
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On 8 Mar, 12:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. *Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. *Sodium Chlorate? Good fabric is your best bet - kills grass dead, but there are other plants that will happily travel several feet in the dark before emerging. Grass normally can't compete under decks anyway, it's the others (esp. brambles) that cause the trouble. Sodium chlorate is easy to get hold of and works for this sort of long- term sterilisation. Glyphosate and *quat aren't persistent enough to be any use, although glyphosate might be useful for a first-pass to kill things already present. How far do they/does it spread sideways? As far as the water goes. If there's any sort of slope with runoff, sodium chlorate could have a run-off deadzone. |
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Grimly Curmudgeon writes: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? If so, it will only kill what's currently growing. By design, it is deactivated when it hits the soil, so it won't stop new plants growing afterwards. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... In article , Grimly Curmudgeon writes: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? If so, it will only kill what's currently growing. By design, it is deactivated when it hits the soil, so it won't stop new plants growing afterwards. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] Napalm? It is supposed to smell good in a morning. Adam |
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On 8 Mar, 12:00, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Sodium Chlorate? How far do they/does it spread sideways? -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk My Aunt buys a large tub of table salt and sweeps it into the gaps, seems to work for her, but I am not really sure because doesn't the salt dissolve in the rain? |
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writes "Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message . .. In article , Grimly Curmudgeon writes: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? If so, it will only kill what's currently growing. By design, it is deactivated when it hits the soil, so it won't stop new plants growing afterwards. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] Napalm? It is supposed to smell good in a morning. Only when used in conjunction with washing powder I heard that Surf is best -- geoff |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Grimly Curmudgeon writes: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? If so, it will only kill what's currently growing. By design, it is deactivated when it hits the soil, so it won't stop new plants growing afterwards. yeah rondup is glyphosate. There are path clear stuffs tho. They persist a bit longer in the soil. Ive never found chlorate to be that effective. Except for amateur explosives, but it isn't even any use for that these days. |
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:47:57 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:
Napalm? It is supposed to smell good in a morning. Well it'll burn it off but it'll grow back. How about Agent Orange? -- Cheers Dave. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (Andrew Gabriel) saying something like: Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? If so, it will only kill what's currently growing. By design, it is deactivated when it hits the soil, so it won't stop new plants growing afterwards. Well, that's what it was supposed to do, but a 5% solution of one of its clones caused a non-growing wasteland that lasted for a year before anything grew back at all and even then only sparsely, and it was the only thing that killed off the briars. |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Grimly Curmudgeon writes: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Looking for a weedkiller to kill off grass under decks. Weed fabric usually does the job, but I want to be sure. Roundup or one its clones. Isn't that glyphosphate based? Glyphosate. |
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