I bought a couple of Philips 18W CFLS for I think £3 each last August in
Homebase.
plugged one in on the 22/08/08 and it failed today.. Plugged the other in
and it failed almost immediately..
both boxes say 10 years!!!

I have other CFLs that cost about £9 each about ten years ago and they are
still burning
I might take these two back to Homebase but I'm not sure if I still have
the receipt.. Could be a bad batch..

Anyone else had similar experiences with these cheaper lamps?

Michael

Graham. wrote:
"Michael Shergold" wrote in message
...
I bought a couple of Philips 18W CFLS for I think £3 each last August in
Homebase.
plugged one in on the 22/08/08 and it failed today.. Plugged the other in
and it failed almost immediately..
both boxes say 10 years!!!

I have other CFLs that cost about £9 each about ten years ago and they are
still burning
I might take these two back to Homebase but I'm not sure if I still have
the receipt.. Could be a bad batch..

Anyone else had similar experiences with these cheaper lamps?

Michael
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.


Lasts 8 years in the box.

"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Michael Shergold" wrote in message
...
I bought a couple of Philips 18W CFLS for I think £3 each last August in
Homebase.
plugged one in on the 22/08/08 and it failed today.. Plugged the other
in and it failed almost immediately..
both boxes say 10 years!!!

I have other CFLs that cost about £9 each about ten years ago and they
are still burning
I might take these two back to Homebase but I'm not sure if I still have
the receipt.. Could be a bad batch..

Anyone else had similar experiences with these cheaper lamps?

Michael
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.

--
Graham.


As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept ...

Arfa

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.

As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept ...


CFLs are fantastic ...

.... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.

On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:55:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.

As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept ...


CFLs are fantastic ...

... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.

But they are doing something. They have engineered a massive
recession which is the best thing by far for the environment.

--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
See http://improve-usenet.org

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:55:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.

As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept
...


CFLs are fantastic ...

... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.

But they are doing something. They have engineered a massive
recession which is the best thing by far for the environment.

--

Interesting point of view. I saw a similar idea being voiced a few days ago,
as it being a very convenient way of reducing eastern bloc imigration to the
country - and indeed reversing it - without the government standing up and
saying "shoot me" by introducing measures with the deliberate intention of
'controlling' the problem.

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:55:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.
As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept
...

CFLs are fantastic ...

... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.
But they are doing something. They have engineered a massive
recession which is the best thing by far for the environment.

--
Interesting point of view. I saw a similar idea being voiced a few days ago,
as it being a very convenient way of reducing eastern bloc imigration to the
country - and indeed reversing it - without the government standing up and
saying "shoot me" by introducing measures with the deliberate intention of
'controlling' the problem.


Much as I would like to credit someone somewhere with causing all this
deliberately, I fear the answer is far less encouraging. Nature and the
markets have done what governments failed to. by a simple process of
natural feedback.

It is no different from a plague of locusts. At some point people go mad
with greed, and expect something for nothing, expand wildly to the
limits of a resource, and then die in huge numbers horribly leaving a
raped landscape behind..

Exacerbated in this cas by Nu Laber confusing the symptoms with causes.
that e.g. full employment is an indicator of a healthy economy, and
graduate salaries are an indicator of intelligent peoples' greater
utility, with simply giving everyone a degree and a job, and expecting
it to generate a healthy economy and intelligent people.




Arfa

On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:06:01 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Arfa Daily wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:55:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.
As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole concept
...

CFLs are fantastic ...

... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.
But they are doing something. They have engineered a massive
recession which is the best thing by far for the environment.

--
Interesting point of view. I saw a similar idea being voiced a few days ago,
as it being a very convenient way of reducing eastern bloc imigration to the
country - and indeed reversing it - without the government standing up and
saying "shoot me" by introducing measures with the deliberate intention of
'controlling' the problem.


Much as I would like to credit someone somewhere with causing all this
deliberately, I fear the answer is far less encouraging. Nature and the
markets have done what governments failed to. by a simple process of
natural feedback.

Indeed. My comment was really meant tongue-in-cheek, rather than a
genuine conspiracy theory. The current financial system is inherently
flawed IMHO to produce boom and bust cycles, fuelled by credit
bubbles. We are just experiencing one of the worst busts for a long
time.

It is no different from a plague of locusts. At some point people go mad
with greed, and expect something for nothing, expand wildly to the
limits of a resource, and then die in huge numbers horribly leaving a
raped landscape behind..

Exacerbated in this cas by Nu Laber confusing the symptoms with causes.
that e.g. full employment is an indicator of a healthy economy, and
graduate salaries are an indicator of intelligent peoples' greater
utility, with simply giving everyone a degree and a job, and expecting
it to generate a healthy economy and intelligent people.

Nulabour generally seem to do the opposite of what is sensible.

--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
See http://improve-usenet.org

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:06:01 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Arfa Daily wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:55:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

"Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
Read the box more carefully
If a GLS lamp says 3000 hrs you expect to get, on average
3000hrs of light

If a CFL (like the Tesco one I have here) says "lasts 8 years"
but in smaller print, and in no way referenced to the 8 years,
it says "Average use of 2.7 hours a day"
then, unless the lifetime "clock" stops when it is turned off
this is totally misleading.
As is the eco-bollox green mist brigade credo behind the whole
concept
...

CFLs are fantastic ...

... for politicians who want to be seen to be doing something about
climate change, when the reality is that they are doing nothing.
But they are doing something. They have engineered a massive
recession which is the best thing by far for the environment.

--
Interesting point of view. I saw a similar idea being voiced a few days
ago,
as it being a very convenient way of reducing eastern bloc imigration to
the
country - and indeed reversing it - without the government standing up
and
saying "shoot me" by introducing measures with the deliberate intention
of
'controlling' the problem.


Much as I would like to credit someone somewhere with causing all this
deliberately, I fear the answer is far less encouraging. Nature and the
markets have done what governments failed to. by a simple process of
natural feedback.

Indeed. My comment was really meant tongue-in-cheek, rather than a
genuine conspiracy theory. The current financial system is inherently
flawed IMHO to produce boom and bust cycles, fuelled by credit
bubbles. We are just experiencing one of the worst busts for a long
time.

It is no different from a plague of locusts. At some point people go mad
with greed, and expect something for nothing, expand wildly to the
limits of a resource, and then die in huge numbers horribly leaving a
raped landscape behind..

Exacerbated in this cas by Nu Laber confusing the symptoms with causes.
that e.g. full employment is an indicator of a healthy economy, and
graduate salaries are an indicator of intelligent peoples' greater
utility, with simply giving everyone a degree and a job, and expecting
it to generate a healthy economy and intelligent people.

Nulabour generally seem to do the opposite of what is sensible.

--


Nu or Old, as was ever the case ...

Arfa