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Tap and sink
Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a
B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. All the best |
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"GMM" wrote in message ... Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. 1) Sink fkd. Return for refund/exchange or 2) Tub of "Plumbers Mate" |
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GMM wrote:
Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the job http://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/...her-Pack-of-10 -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 11 Dec, 09:49, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: GMM wrote: Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. *The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. *When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. *I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. *This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. *Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the jobhttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/Plumbing/Plumbing-Accessories/Spl... -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sadly the box (and probably the receipt) has long gone so no going back to the orange shed! Dave - Do you reckon they would go into the top and keep things steady? Only it says they're not for monobloc taps (which I would have got the most benefit from that type of washer). As far as I can see, the problem is a combination of the top of the sink, where the tap meets it, not being flat and the fact that monobloc-design taps are held in place by an offset stud and not. Tightening generates an uneven force which, in this case, makes the base of the tap slip onto the 'ole, kinda skew. If the tightening pressure was even, I'd expect the tap to burrow a little into the conical hole and settle there but the best I can get it is sort of metastable, ie, it looks right, it's tight, then you touch it and the whole thing slips! |
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GMM wrote:
On 11 Dec, 09:49, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the jobhttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/Plumbing/Plumbing-Accessories/Spl... -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sadly the box (and probably the receipt) has long gone so no going back to the orange shed! Dave - Do you reckon they would go into the top and keep things steady? Only it says they're not for monobloc taps (which I would have got the most benefit from that type of washer). Sorry, I didn't read your post properly, didn't notice the monoblock bit. As far as I can see, the problem is a combination of the top of the sink, where the tap meets it, not being flat and the fact that monobloc-design taps are held in place by an offset stud and not. Tightening generates an uneven force which, in this case, makes the base of the tap slip onto the 'ole, kinda skew. If the tightening pressure was even, I'd expect the tap to burrow a little into the conical hole and settle there but the best I can get it is sort of metastable, ie, it looks right, it's tight, then you touch it and the whole thing slips! Any chance of a picky or a link? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 11 Dec, 17:42, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: GMM wrote: On 11 Dec, 09:49, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the jobhttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/Plumbing/Plumbing-Accessories/Spl... -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sadly the box (and probably the receipt) has long gone so no going back to the orange shed! Dave - Do you reckon they would go into the top and keep things steady? *Only it says they're not for monobloc taps (which I would have got the most benefit from that type of washer). Sorry, I didn't read your post properly, didn't notice the monoblock bit. As far as I can see, the problem is a combination of the top of the sink, where the tap meets it, not being flat and the fact that monobloc-design taps are held in place by an offset stud and not. Tightening generates an uneven force which, in this case, makes the base of the tap slip onto the 'ole, kinda skew. *If the tightening pressure was even, I'd expect the tap to burrow a little into the conical hole and settle there but the best I can get it is sort of metastable, ie, it looks right, it's tight, then you touch it and the whole thing slips! Any chance of a picky or a link? -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Finally managed to shoot it (not in any sense artistically) with my phone and post at This (in case it's not clear!) is the tap from the underside lying in the sink - the hole in the sink visible at the top of the pic, although the taper in the top of the hole isn't over-clear. Any help, Dave? |
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On 11 Dec, 17:42, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: On 11 Dec, 09:49, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the jobhttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/Plumbing/Plumbing-Accessories/Spl... -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sadly the box (and probably the receipt) has long gone so no going back to the orange shed! Dave - Do you reckon they would go into the top and keep things steady? Only it says they're not for monobloc taps (which I would have got the most benefit from that type of washer). Sorry, I didn't read your post properly, didn't notice the monoblock bit. As far as I can see, the problem is a combination of the top of the sink, where the tap meets it, not being flat and the fact that monobloc-design taps are held in place by an offset stud and not. Tightening generates an uneven force which, in this case, makes the base of the tap slip onto the 'ole, kinda skew. If the tightening pressure was even, I'd expect the tap to burrow a little into the conical hole and settle there but the best I can get it is sort of metastable, ie, it looks right, it's tight, then you touch it and the whole thing slips! Any chance of a picky or a link? -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Finally managed to shoot it (not in any sense artistically) with my phone and post at This (in case it's not clear!) is the tap from the underside lying in the sink - the hole in the sink visible at the top of the pic, although the taper in the top of the hole isn't over-clear. Any help, Dave? See what you mean. How about this? http://www.splitklick.com/monoblocsk4product.html Seems designed for the job. Never seen them on sale, but they have a list of stockists and I'm sure an e-mail might get a sample sent :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 11 Dec, 20:44, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: GMM wrote: On 11 Dec, 17:42, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: On 11 Dec, 09:49, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: GMM wrote: Finally getting to fitting the sink in my d/stairs bog. The sink is a B+Q 'to go' cloakroom job with a single tap hole while the tap is a mixer supplied with a Hyco vented water heater (looks like a monobloc but the hot control lets water through to the heater, displacing water from the heater unit). Anyway, the hole in the sink is slightly conical at the top, while the base of the tap has a rubber O-ring. When I tighten the bolt that holds it all together, the tap slips out of the vertical into the dished/conical top of the hole, so won't sit straight. I don't think there's anything missing from the kit - it's more likely that the B+Q sink is carp - and the only way I can see to keep things right is to put something between the tap and the sink to stop it, for example a flat plastic washer. This looks like a bodge, even though the washer is translucent, but I could try trimming it once the whole thing's in place. Alternatively, I could be missing something here so I thought I'd post and ask if anyone had come across this problem and had a better solution. These should do the jobhttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/34550/Plumbing/Plumbing-Accessories/Spl... -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Sadly the box (and probably the receipt) has long gone so no going back to the orange shed! Dave - Do you reckon they would go into the top and keep things steady? Only it says they're not for monobloc taps (which I would have got the most benefit from that type of washer). Sorry, I didn't read your post properly, didn't notice the monoblock bit. As far as I can see, the problem is a combination of the top of the sink, where the tap meets it, not being flat and the fact that monobloc-design taps are held in place by an offset stud and not. Tightening generates an uneven force which, in this case, makes the base of the tap slip onto the 'ole, kinda skew. If the tightening pressure was even, I'd expect the tap to burrow a little into the conical hole and settle there but the best I can get it is sort of metastable, ie, it looks right, it's tight, then you touch it and the whole thing slips! Any chance of a picky or a link? -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Finally managed to shoot it (not in any sense artistically) with my phone and post at * This (in case it's not clear!) is the tap from the underside lying in the sink - the hole in the sink visible at the top of the pic, although the taper in the top of the hole isn't over-clear. Any help, Dave? See what you mean. *How about this?http://www.splitklick.com/monoblocsk4product.html Seems designed for the job. Never seen them on sale, but they have a list of stockists and I'm sure an e-mail might get a sample sent :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Thanks Dave - Looks like that would be just the thing if I can blag one (!). If I have to buy a pack of 10000 or something I'll send you the leftovers... |
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Thanks Dave - Looks like that would be just the thing if I can blag one (!). If I have to buy a pack of 10000 or something I'll send you the leftovers... Errrm... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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, GMM writes Finally managed to shoot it (not in any sense artistically) with my phone and post at This (in case it's not clear!) is the tap from the underside lying in the sink - the hole in the sink visible at the top of the pic, although the taper in the top of the hole isn't over-clear. It does seem to be a rather flawed design having nothing to hold the irregular shaped parts centrally in the hole. Even the bottom fitted washer that Dave found is partially flawed as it is securing the bottom of the floppy mass rather than the top which is where any moving forces are going to be applied. One solution might be to mould a tight fitting resilient plug around the top flexi pipes and threaded fixing to hold the assembly centrally in the hole. The mould could be a cut down plastic aerosol cap and high modulus silicone could be formed up in layers to produce the plug which should be as deep as possible to avoid deforming or breaking up. High modulus silicone is suggested as it is stiffer than the more common low modulus stuff so better for a resilient plug. Any slight oversize in the plug can be pared down with a sharp blade. -- fred BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs |
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