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Cable derating
Just wanted to check that I was reading the OSG correctly!
If I use Reference method A (i.e. enclosed in conduit in insulated wall) then 2.5mm flat T+E cable will be sufficient for a ring circuit. Presumably I cannot put 2 cables in the conduit (i.e. to and from the socket) as this will derate the circuit under 20A and I would need to increase the size of the cable. The alternative is to ensure that the cable is touching the inner surface of the plasterboard and that the two cables do not run in close proximity to each other. Cheers Martin -- Martin Carroll |
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"Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... Just wanted to check that I was reading the OSG correctly! If I use Reference method A (i.e. enclosed in conduit in insulated wall) then 2.5mm flat T+E cable will be sufficient for a ring circuit. Presumably I cannot put 2 cables in the conduit (i.e. to and from the socket) as this will derate the circuit under 20A and I would need to increase the size of the cable. The alternative is to ensure that the cable is touching the inner surface of the plasterboard and that the two cables do not run in close proximity to each other. You can't do that unless the cable is protected or you have 2" plasterboard. |
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writes "Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... Just wanted to check that I was reading the OSG correctly! If I use Reference method A (i.e. enclosed in conduit in insulated wall) then 2.5mm flat T+E cable will be sufficient for a ring circuit. Presumably I cannot put 2 cables in the conduit (i.e. to and from the socket) as this will derate the circuit under 20A and I would need to increase the size of the cable. The alternative is to ensure that the cable is touching the inner surface of the plasterboard and that the two cables do not run in close proximity to each other. You can't do that unless the cable is protected or you have 2" plasterboard. Or the cable run is in the zone horizontally/vertically to the socket. -- Martin Carroll |
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"Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... In article , dennis@home writes "Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... Just wanted to check that I was reading the OSG correctly! If I use Reference method A (i.e. enclosed in conduit in insulated wall) then 2.5mm flat T+E cable will be sufficient for a ring circuit. Presumably I cannot put 2 cables in the conduit (i.e. to and from the socket) as this will derate the circuit under 20A and I would need to increase the size of the cable. The alternative is to ensure that the cable is touching the inner surface of the plasterboard and that the two cables do not run in close proximity to each other. You can't do that unless the cable is protected or you have 2" plasterboard. Or the cable run is in the zone horizontally/vertically to the socket. That doesn't satisfy the new regs AFAIK |
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writes "Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... In article , dennis@home writes "Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... Just wanted to check that I was reading the OSG correctly! If I use Reference method A (i.e. enclosed in conduit in insulated wall) then 2.5mm flat T+E cable will be sufficient for a ring circuit. Presumably I cannot put 2 cables in the conduit (i.e. to and from the socket) as this will derate the circuit under 20A and I would need to increase the size of the cable. The alternative is to ensure that the cable is touching the inner surface of the plasterboard and that the two cables do not run in close proximity to each other. You can't do that unless the cable is protected or you have 2" plasterboard. Or the cable run is in the zone horizontally/vertically to the socket. That doesn't satisfy the new regs AFAIK Why not? AIUI as long as a cable runs in a line horizontally or vertically to an accessory or within 150mm of top of wall or angle formed by two walls. Martin -- Martin Carroll |
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Martin Carroll wrote:
Why not? AIUI as long as a cable runs in a line horizontally or vertically to an accessory or within 150mm of top of wall or angle formed by two walls. Used to be, now 17th edition requires either cable is buried more than 50mm or cable is not buried at all or conductors are fully enclosed by an earth (e.g. T&E within earthed metal capping, or a cable such as SWA, or BS8436 cable with foil screen, or pyro etc) or protected by 30mA RCD or RCBO or something else I missed? |
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