Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water to
the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?

"RW" wrote in message
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Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?




Are you sure it doesn't have an (half load) option to turn off the top bar?

"RW" wrote in message
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Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to
the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?


Pump may just need cleaning. Fats, and other melting things, coming from
the plates and cutlery can solidify in places where the water is allowed to
cool after a wash cycle. Anything sticky will cause a blockage and reduce
the power of the pump to push water up the hose. Some machines have a grab
filter on the bottom of the hose, just where it attaches to the pump, for
the very purpose of trying to catch all the fatty stuff. If this has filled
up and not been emptied, then it might just be enough to reduce the flow to
the top agitator.

It's a "go in and see" scenario on this one. Also check inside the impeller
housing on the pump for anything stuck in between the housing wall and the
fan itself. And check if the fan has not unscrewed / broken itself off the
motor shaft. Usually more noticeable when the machine is working, is when
the pump impeller is stuck, the machine makes a noticeable buzzing noise and
a burning smell is given off. If you haven't noticed any unusual noises or
smells, then the hose filter could be blocked or the pump is broken in some
way.

Good luck with it.

BigWallop wrote:
"RW" wrote in message
...
Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to
the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?


Pump may just need cleaning. Fats, and other melting things, coming from
the plates and cutlery can solidify in places where the water is allowed to
cool after a wash cycle.

I'd go with that... worth trying one of those 'deep-clean' bottles of
detergent - run on very hot setting, with an empty machine. I'd always
thought they were marketing ******** until a dishwasher engineer advised
me to use them regularly (at the end of a 60-quid callout to fix similar
symptoms to yours, which was caused by crud build-up). Have been
getting much better washes since using them.

The fat doesn't even have to be anywhere near the wand thing - just
build-up in pipes elsewhere can reduce the overall efficiency and power
so there's not enough oomph to spin the thing.

David

In article , RW wrote:
Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water to
the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

When the one at work had that problem, it was flakes of limescale clogging
up the angled nozzles that make it spin.

"RW" wrote in message
...
Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?


Well it's clean all the way through,
No scale anywhere.
No blockages (As the water on the floor in the kitchen testifies to )
even fitted a slim O ring to the top basket at the end that fits into the
distribution tube and nuffin, nada,zero change.

I'll try a double descale, powerwash and general clean through again and see
if there's anything in the impeller on the pump.

Cheers all for advice

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:21:15 -0000, "RW" wrote:


"RW" wrote in message
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Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom wand
to the top etc.

Pump failing ?


Well it's clean all the way through,
No scale anywhere.
No blockages (As the water on the floor in the kitchen testifies to )
even fitted a slim O ring to the top basket at the end that fits into the
distribution tube and nuffin, nada,zero change.

I'll try a double descale, powerwash and general clean through again and see
if there's anything in the impeller on the pump.

Some dishwashers have a motorised valve that diverts water to the
top/bottom arms. This could have failed.

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"RW" wrote in message
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Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom
wand to the top etc.

Pump failing ?

Ours was snagging on (under) the top rack when loaded with water(it span
freely without water). I added a piece of plastic sleeve to the wire frame
on which it was mounted slightly tilting/levelling it so that it could not
snag.. It's worked with this fix for a couple of years now. It's a Bosch!
Michael

"Michael Shergold" wrote in message
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"RW" wrote in message
...
Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the water
to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom
wand to the top etc.

Pump failing ?

Ours was snagging on (under) the top rack when loaded with water(it span
freely without water). I added a piece of plastic sleeve to the wire
frame on which it was mounted slightly tilting/levelling it so that it
could not snag.. It's worked with this fix for a couple of years now.
It's a Bosch!
Michael

Hmmmmm.

Although I can't see it snagging it's hard to watch as the door needs to be
closed etc.

It does stay in relatively the same place wherever I put it manually though,
so perhaps it just isn't getting enough flow to turn it in some positions.

..

"RW" wrote in message
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"Michael Shergold" wrote in message
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"RW" wrote in message
...
Ok, given that the collective knowledge on this NG seems fairly good I
wonder if anyone can advise why the top "wand" that distributes the
water to the top wire basket does not spin anymore.

Filters clean.
Plenty of H2O around.
Free spins by hand
No leaks up the tube at the rear of the machine connecting the bottom
wand to the top etc.

Pump failing ?

Ours was snagging on (under) the top rack when loaded with water(it span
freely without water). I added a piece of plastic sleeve to the wire
frame on which it was mounted slightly tilting/levelling it so that it
could not snag.. It's worked with this fix for a couple of years now.
It's a Bosch!
Michael

Hmmmmm.

Although I can't see it snagging it's hard to watch as the door needs to
be closed etc.

It does stay in relatively the same place wherever I put it manually
though, so perhaps it just isn't getting enough flow to turn it in some
positions.

I identified mine by noticing that the arm was always stopped in the same
place after opening the door even though it always had turned if I had
pre-placed it at another position. When I poured water in it tilted under
the weight and hit the rack.. The bearing thing is held by the wire frame
which I guess could be easily bent but my quickfix with a bit of plastic
tube around the wire has now been there for a long time.
Michael

Although I can't see it snagging it's hard to watch as the door needs to
be closed etc.


On my Neff you can 'trick' it into thinking the door is closed by
pushing the door catch with a small screwdriver. As you push it in it
rolls away from the body of the machine and another piece of the catch
rolls up - this keeps the door closed.
You will need to roll this part of the catch back down (I do it using
two small screwdrivers, on either side of the catch) BEFORE you try to
close the dooor properly.

If you try this do it with the dishwasher OFF.
Otherwise you mght get wet.
You will probably need to keep the upper tray pushed in. This keeps
the upper spray arm pressed against the water supply at the back of
the machine.

Apologies to any experts who are now sucking eggs. I was a bit chuffed
when I realised how to do this last night. Just wished I'd thought
about it years ago..