Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Bored are you David?
Anyway in answer to your question...tools are only dangerous in the wrong
hands.

Drilling with a core drill without a clutch?

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw" (thinking any ordinary handsaw). Past experience would
probably include "hammer" (as in squashed nail time).

I think that the fear factor of the big, heavy, powerful power tools
helps to encourage greater care - especially among people who use them
less frequently.

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion, but rules and regs seem to have been tightened up a lot.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

George wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Bored are you David?

No, just putting off starting a job :-)



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Rod wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw" (thinking any ordinary handsaw). Past experience
would probably include "hammer" (as in squashed nail time).

I think that the fear factor of the big, heavy, powerful power tools
helps to encourage greater care - especially among people who use them
less frequently.

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion, but rules and regs seem to have been tightened up a lot.

As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
The Medway Handyman wrote:


As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?

Q: What happened to the worman who sat on a bacon slicer?
A: Disaster! [as in dis-assed her]

Alternatively: She got a little behind with her orders!

Sorry!
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Roger
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Dangerous by severity of injury or frequency of injury, or some
combination of?

A stat an American friend quoted is that more people in the US are
injured in chainsaws accidents than handgun accidents.

In the UK virtually all pro users have and wear the protective
trousers, boots and headgear *all* the time - I'd expect the kickback
and swing-through injuries to be rather slanted towards domestic
accidents without the safety kit being used.

Also in the UK, I think we have to separate tool-related accidents
into professional accidents (where the user has had training) and is
working with tools not widely used by non-professionals - and those
diy accidents with a heavy domestic slant - for instance professional
electrical engineers and electricians very rarely get shocks.

Talking to a retired GP friend, he said eye injuries from grinders for
sheer frequency - both pro and amateur - all too easy to skip the eye
protection when only using a grinder "for a moment".

"Falls from height" I believe tops the Health & Safety Exec' list -
but that includes "improvised ladders" - and the vast majority (90%
IIRC) of falls in the workplace happen to people that don't normally
use ladders as part of their job, and are improvising (probably chair
+ box etc).

I think the reputation of table saws (& more so spindle moulders) are
unjustified with modern safety features (and if following the rules of
safe operation).

Nail guns I have great respect for, and I've still had my paslode send
a 90mm nail flying through the air when it encountered a very hard
knot hidden just beneath the surface.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:45:29 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?

As in "Please do not sit on the bacon slicer as we are getting behind with
our orders" !

--
John Stumbles

87.5% of statistics are made up

John Stumbles wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:45:29 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?

As in "Please do not sit on the bacon slicer as we are getting behind with
our orders" !

Was I really the first person to mention bacon slicer in this thread?
Sorry folks!

But as we are here....


Man walks in to a butchers and asks for a side of beef. As he waits for
it to be prepared he inquires " Wheres that young lad that usually helps
you out?"
The butcher replies "I had to sack him"
" why?"
" He kept putting his dick in the bacon slicer!"
" Really?"
"Yeah"
" that couldnt be good for your bacon slicer?"
" Yeah i know, i had to sack her as well."

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

I'd agree. Most saws are pretty safe if you use common sense - apart from
chainsaws. Angle grinders have a mind of their own.

--
*Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

wrote:


I think the reputation of table saws (& more so spindle moulders) are
unjustified with modern safety features (and if following the rules of
safe operation).

Table saws, spindle moulders, and chainsaws all look dangerous and sound
dangerous.

the greatest risk is from things that seem innocuous, like grinders, and
ladders.

Or even a carving knife.

I have cut myself more times than I care to mention on knives of one
sort or another. Even on a sheet of paper!

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

Big stick.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember John Stumbles
saying something like:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:45:29 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?

As in "Please do not sit on the bacon slicer as we are getting behind with
our orders" !

My uncle was a butcher and stuck his todger in the bacon slicer.
Until she got the boot.

Table saws, spindle moulders, and chainsaws all look dangerous and sound
dangerous.

the greatest risk is from things that seem innocuous, like grinders, and
ladders.

Agreed. Although I did have a link to an accident report, where a US
woodworker, having mislaid his Stanley knife, attempted to cut
monofilament fishing line using a running table saw.

I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

But then that's part of the 3 classic groups of accident victims -
inexperienced novice, complacent professional - and that other group
"shouldn't be allowed near tools".

Of that website of woodworking machinery accident reports (which has
been taken down unfortunately), 80% were the "shouldn't be allowed
near tools" category, and 20% were the "bad luck, and could happen to
almost anyone in a careless moment".

wrote:

I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

Oooh - I thought it was just me that had a momentary chill when firing up
big, nasty tools.

Steve Walker wrote:

wrote:

I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

Oooh - I thought it was just me that had a momentary chill when firing up
big, nasty tools.

I still remember the sound of the table saw from my school's woodwork
room starting up, I only remember one pupil ever being allowed to use it.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:25:18 -0000, "Steve Walker"
wrote:

wrote:

I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

Oooh - I thought it was just me that had a momentary chill when firing up
big, nasty tools.

Buffing machines. The 'Rotty' of power tools.

Regards,



--
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Email: Take time to reply: timefrom_usenet{at}gmx.net

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Steve Walker"
saying something like:

wrote:

I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

Probably spouted by one of those home-spun philosphers the Yanks are so
fond of.

Oooh - I thought it was just me that had a momentary chill when firing up
big, nasty tools.

I just get on with the job and I've always had a great deal of respect
for big things that whirl, stamp, punch, etc.
Nothing compared to Ma Nature, though.

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

None of them are really dangerous in themselves - it's only when they are
used by an untrained or careless operator that they become "dangerous".

BTW, a ladder is not a tool - it's a piece of access equipment and can
neither harm nor injure - injury is only caused when an idiot falls off it
(for any number of unsafe practices) and comes into contact with the ground.

Unbeliever

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember John Stumbles
saying something like:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:45:29 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

As in "Do not let your children sit on the bacon slicer..."?

As in "Please do not sit on the bacon slicer as we are getting behind
with
our orders" !

My uncle was a butcher and stuck his todger in the bacon slicer.
Until she got the boot.


My Dad was a slaughter man and my Mum was a real stunner.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

Dave - The Medway Handyman


Left Hand
Right Hand
Brain
Alcohol
Any tool you use

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

Big stick.


Viagra, to go with big stick.

In article
,
wrote:
I've also heard it said that when you no longer feel anything when you
hear the noise of the table saw spinning-up - then you're ready for
your accident.

Heh heh - I don't have a table saw but one of those sliding compound mitre
ones - a cheapy from B&Q. And you're in no doubt when you start it due to
the 'kick' as it spins up. No soft start at that price. ;-)

--
*'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:23:59 GMT, George wrote:

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Bored are you David?
Anyway in answer to your question...tools are only dangerous in the wrong
hands.

Tools don't even have to be your hands to be dangerous. Recently I had
my nail gun plugged in to one side of a dual socket, while the table saw
was plugged in (as usual) to the other socket of the pair.
A few times I noticed a "thudding" sound when I switched the saw off. The
first time, I thought nothing of it. The second time I thought "hmm, odd"
After the third time I started to investigate ... It turned out that the
nailgun was firing, on it's own. I have now discovered this effect is completely
repeatable, but only on that particular double socket. It's wired the same
as all the others and shows up as OK" with my mains-plug tester.
Fortunately no nails or people were harmed during this excperiment.

p.s. most dangerous tool: hammer - I've caused more actual damage to myself
with one of those that with any of the ones listed - probably because I treat
power tools with a great deal of respect, and they tend to have safety guards.

Rod wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw"

Agreed, I am regularly haching myself up with these but when using power
tools pay much more care/attention.

"Rod" wrote in message
...
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw" (thinking any ordinary handsaw). Past experience would
probably include "hammer" (as in squashed nail time).

I think that the fear factor of the big, heavy, powerful power tools helps
to encourage greater care - especially among people who use them less
frequently.

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion, but rules and regs seem to have been tightened up a lot.

--
Rod

Talking about angle grinders, this seaman did himself a mischief yesterday
with one; http://tiny.cc/x0nrM

Don.

"Don" wrote in message
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"Rod" wrote in message
...
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw" (thinking any ordinary handsaw). Past experience would
probably include "hammer" (as in squashed nail time).

I think that the fear factor of the big, heavy, powerful power tools
helps
to encourage greater care - especially among people who use them less
frequently.

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion, but rules and regs seem to have been tightened up a lot.

--
Rod

Talking about angle grinders, this seaman did himself a mischief yesterday
with one; http://tiny.cc/x0nrM

Don.

The Grinder hit him three times in the face? Once is enough with those
things.

He was in a great deal of pain? I wonder why. I think he's a brave man to
be conscious enough to feel pain during such an ordeal. :-)

pete wrote:
Tools don't even have to be your hands to be dangerous. Recently I had
my nail gun plugged in to one side of a dual socket, while the table
saw
was plugged in (as usual) to the other socket of the pair.
A few times I noticed a "thudding" sound when I switched the saw off.
The
first time, I thought nothing of it. The second time I thought "hmm,
odd"
After the third time I started to investigate ... It turned out that
the nailgun was firing, on it's own. I have now discovered this
effect is completely repeatable, but only on that particular double
socket. It's wired the same

Sounds like a bad connection in the socket to me - have you checked the
terminals are nice and tight!? If so, I would change the socket if it were
me!

"Toby" wrote in message
...
pete wrote:
Tools don't even have to be your hands to be dangerous. Recently I had
my nail gun plugged in to one side of a dual socket, while the table
saw
was plugged in (as usual) to the other socket of the pair.
A few times I noticed a "thudding" sound when I switched the saw off.
The
first time, I thought nothing of it. The second time I thought "hmm,
odd"
After the third time I started to investigate ... It turned out that
the nailgun was firing, on it's own. I have now discovered this
effect is completely repeatable, but only on that particular double
socket. It's wired the same

Sounds like a bad connection in the socket to me - have you checked the
terminals are nice and tight!? If so, I would change the socket if it were
me!


I'd have the gun checked out. They shouldn't activate until the press guard
is pushed back at the nose.

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

Are they supposed to be in any particular order? I would have rated a
fixed table saw as more dangerous than a hand held circular saw for
example - because at least with that your hands are occupied holding it!

--
Cheers,

John.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
et...
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

Are they supposed to be in any particular order? I would have rated a
fixed table saw as more dangerous than a hand held circular saw for
example - because at least with that your hands are occupied holding it!

John.


I've watched blokes using a circular saw with one hand and the timber across
their knee to lop the end off it. It could have been their knees that
copped the lopping off.

Chainsaws are not a common tool in everyone's chest, and for those who don't
use them on a regular basis, and forget what ever little bits of training
they had, they are easy to lose control of on the simplest of jobs. My
training was three weeks of forestry work, with a constant supervisor over
my shoulder. I've heard you can go on one day course to allow certification
on using them now-a-days. That's not right.

Nail guns are also an uncommon tool for the DIYer and semi-professional, but
they don't need any training before purchase or use. They are dangerous in
the hands of a novice, who thinks they are John Wayne with a six shooter.

A Hilti gun was one tool I saw literally take a mans head off. You need
trained to use them on commercial sites, but not for home use. On a site
where the guys were installing ventilation duct, and a youngster took the
gun up a scaffold. Still couldn't quite reach the ceiling, so stood on a
tool box and put the Hilti gun on the top of head to push it up tight.
Pulled the trigger and bashed the top of his head in. The blast from the
cartridge can be worse than a shotgun at close range. It put the masonry
nail into the concrete without problem, but the recoil fractured the young
lads skull just as easily.

Heh heh - I don't have a table saw but one of those sliding compound mitre
ones - a cheapy from B&Q. And you're in no doubt when you start it due to
the 'kick' as it spins up. No soft start at that price. ;-)


I have a similar compound mitre saw ... I've noticed that it only kicks back
(yes, quite violently) when the blade is not up to full speed when I start
cutting, or when the piece being sawn is very small. I've had a few scrapes
with the kick-back, a few times being hit in the face by off cuts ... but it
is always been when I have been rushing the job.
Take your time when cutting.
Dave

In message , Rod
writes

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion,

But only when she has a cleaver in her hand


--
geoff

In message , Don
writes

"Rod" wrote in message
...
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,


What meaning of most dangerous?

If most injuries, I'd put up a "knife", or, given my own recent
experience, "saw" (thinking any ordinary handsaw). Past experience would
probably include "hammer" (as in squashed nail time).

I think that the fear factor of the big, heavy, powerful power tools helps
to encourage greater care - especially among people who use them less
frequently.

Not that many years ago I'd probably have put up "bacon slicer" as a
suggestion, but rules and regs seem to have been tightened up a lot.

--
Rod

Talking about angle grinders, this seaman did himself a mischief yesterday
with one; http://tiny.cc/x0nrM

cunnilingus with an angle grinder ?

forriners, eh ?

--
geoff

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

May I add

My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

John Holmes

Adam

ARWadsworth wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

May I add

My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

John Holmes

Adam

Is that;

1. My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

2. John Holmes

3. Adam



--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
ARWadsworth wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

May I add

My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

John Holmes

Adam

Is that;

1. My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

2. John Holmes (Bobbit?)

3. Adam


Is now Eve? Ouch!!!




--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 16 Nov, 22:17, "BigWallop" wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in media.com...



ARWadsworth wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
media.com...
Just seen this on the Popular Mechanics site.

They reckon;

Circular Saw.
Chain Saw.
Table Saw.
Nail Gun
Ladder.

I'd agree with that lot & add our favourite - angle grinder,

May I add

My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

John Holmes

Adam

Is that;

1. My next door neighbours chopsaw (see previous posts)

2. John Holmes * * (Bobbit?)

3. Adam

Is now Eve? * * *Ouch!!!



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

It's interesting following a discussion of this type as all the
contributors are regulars here and I imagine like myself, self-defined
competent DIY'ers. The interest is that we don't fall into one of the
groups that have been defined as typically having accidents with tools
- the over confident professional and the guy who shouldn't be let
loose ! Are we in danger of being complacent in that we don't think we
get blase like the professional and all are far too knowledgeable to
be an ignorant ?

I suspect from the postings that none of those contributing have had
anything more than a bang with a hammer, or snick with a hand saw -
either that or someone is keeping stum. Which then raises the
question as to who does have these accidents ? I've got all the power
tools described in the various lists here and more, and I use them
with considerable respect, but they all have power to do me a serious
nasty if there is that moment of inattention, and that is what worries
me.

My brother is a joiner/cabinet maker and the planer is his
downfall ... and falling off rooves. Both professional hazards.

Rob

robgraham wrote:


It's interesting following a discussion of this type as all the
contributors are regulars here and I imagine like myself, self-defined
competent DIY'ers. The interest is that we don't fall into one of the
groups that have been defined as typically having accidents with tools
- the over confident professional and the guy who shouldn't be let
loose ! Are we in danger of being complacent in that we don't think we
get blase like the professional and all are far too knowledgeable to
be an ignorant ?

I suspect from the postings that none of those contributing have had
anything more than a bang with a hammer, or snick with a hand saw -
either that or someone is keeping stum. Which then raises the
question as to who does have these accidents ? I've got all the power
tools described in the various lists here and more, and I use them
with considerable respect, but they all have power to do me a serious
nasty if there is that moment of inattention, and that is what worries
me.

I've had the tip of a finger severed & replaced due to inattention with a
table saw, & three incidents with angle grinders, two very minor leg
injuries & one more serious arm injury.

In terms of DIY the finger & one of the leg injuries were before I went full
time as a handyman, the arm & leg injury since.

The table saw incident was due to a moments inattention, all the guards were
in place & working 100%.

I have a great deal of respect for angle grinders now.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk