With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

bilbo*baggins wrote:

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

Unfortunately you need to get rid of other creatures first - the sort of
people who *would* sue a retailer because they'd injured themselves
having been sold them a cheap power tool devoid of instructions.

Them, and the parastic ambulance-chasing lawyers and 'claims advisors'
who encourage these people.

David

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
bilbo*baggins wrote:

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

Unfortunately you need to get rid of other creatures first - the sort of
people who *would* sue a retailer because they'd injured themselves
having been sold them a cheap power tool devoid of instructions.

Them, and the parastic ambulance-chasing lawyers and 'claims advisors'
who encourage these people.

David


I'd have asked for a piece of paper, and wrote on it. I understand fully
that the product I have purchased (insert model number and make here) has
instruction manual (and what ever else) missing from its packaging. I waver
any liability from the seller (insert name of shop here) due to injury to my
person and / or any damages that may occur due to my use of said product.
Get the sales assistant and a stranger (customer) to sign as witnesses.

Tell her to staple it to the shop copy of the receipt, and you've got a
cheap power tool to take away.

Yes, that is drastic, but it's today's society that is causing it. On the
way out the shop, you could have given the finger. But that's optional.
:-)

BigWallop wrote:
"Lobster" wrote in message
...
bilbo*baggins wrote:

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"
Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?
Unfortunately you need to get rid of other creatures first - the sort of
people who *would* sue a retailer because they'd injured themselves
having been sold them a cheap power tool devoid of instructions.

Them, and the parastic ambulance-chasing lawyers and 'claims advisors'
who encourage these people.


I'd have asked for a piece of paper, and wrote on it. I understand fully
that the product I have purchased (insert model number and make here) has
instruction manual (and what ever else) missing from its packaging. I waver
any liability from the seller (insert name of shop here) due to injury to my
person and / or any damages that may occur due to my use of said product.
Get the sales assistant and a stranger (customer) to sign as witnesses.

But you can't expect a shop assistant (or even the manager TBH) to be
conversant enough with the law to know whether the above would actually
hold water in court, can you?. (I don't know the answer myself!)

David

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:28:10 +0000, Lobster wrote:

I waver any liability from the seller (insert name of shop here) due to
injury to my person and / or any damages that may occur due to my use
of said product.

Waiver... B-)

But you can't expect a shop assistant (or even the manager TBH) to be
conversant enough with the law to know whether the above would actually
hold water in court, can you?. (I don't know the answer myself!)

IANAL either but that sentance gets the seller off any hooks as I read it.
If the thing caught fire causing the house to burn down and the maker said
the shop shouldn't have sold the "damaged" product...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:42:17 UTC, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:28:10 +0000, Lobster wrote:

I waver any liability from the seller (insert name of shop here) due to
injury to my person and / or any damages that may occur due to my use
of said product.

Waiver... B-)

Waive... :-))


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On Nov 10, 12:42*am, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:28:10 +0000, Lobster wrote:
I waver any liability from the seller (insert name of shop here) due to
injury to my person and / or any damages that may occur due to my use
of said product.

Waiver... * B-)

Write 'waver' and the contract will be held void as it doesnt make
sense. If its accepted and if the tool injures you you can still sue.
However there are other issues with such a contract that make it
worthless in reality, and few managers want to enter into murky
contracts just for a quick sale of a low value item. A few might
though.


NT

"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message
...

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?


Sometimes asking for the shop manger can help in these situations, as quite
possibly you could have downloaed the instructions from the internet.

No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge. The instruction manual was full of
advice like make sure things don't fall on you when you open the doors. Not
a word about what might be sensible temperatures to run the fridge and
freezer at. .

--
Michael Chare

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 16:42:37 -0000, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message
...

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?


Sometimes asking for the shop manger can help in these situations, as quite
possibly you could have downloaed the instructions from the internet.

No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

The instruction manual was full of
advice like make sure things don't fall on you when you open the doors. Not
a word about what might be sensible temperatures to run the fridge and
freezer at. .

This is absolutely normal for instruction manuals these days.

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In article ,
Mark wrote:
No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

I'd say fridges are one of the few things that rarely need spares. Or by
the time they do few makers would still stock them anyway.

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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:11:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mark wrote:
No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

I'd say fridges are one of the few things that rarely need spares.

I'd say not. Many fridges use electronic control systems which do go
wrong. My 6 year old Samsung fridge has such a failure and I had to
scrap it because spares were no longer manufactured.

Or by
the time they do few makers would still stock them anyway.

I'm not sure what you meant by this apart to contradict your first
sentence?

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In article ,
Mark wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:11:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mark wrote:
No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

I'd say fridges are one of the few things that rarely need spares.

I'd say not. Many fridges use electronic control systems which do go
wrong. My 6 year old Samsung fridge has such a failure and I had to
scrap it because spares were no longer manufactured.

Not possible to repair it?

Or by the time they do few makers would still stock them anyway.

I'm not sure what you meant by this apart to contradict your first
sentence?

I have a near 30 year old fridge still working as new. I'd not expect to
be able to buy spares for it now. Haven't tried, of course. But few even
decent makers carry spares for things over 10 years old.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mark wrote:
No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

I'd say fridges are one of the few things that rarely need spares. Or by
the time they do few makers would still stock them anyway.

Mostly te plastic interiors call apart, and the door seals.

Lec is as good as it gets for that.


If they degass, chuck em.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mark wrote:
No long ago I bought a Samsung Fridge.

Bad move. You can't get spares for these if they are more than a few
years old.

I'd say fridges are one of the few things that rarely need spares. Or by
the time they do few makers would still stock them anyway.

Mostly te plastic interiors call apart, and the door seals.

Lec is as good as it gets for that.


If they degass, chuck em.

For freezers, add in waterlogging (icelogging) of the insulation
when they first switched away from CFC expanded foams to more
environmentally friendly insulation (which meant chucking out
the freezer after less than half the lifetime it would have had
previously). Sigh.

The most unreliable parts are the fanned frost-free sections.
Avoiding units with those will give you a very much more reliable
fridge/freezer. The basic sealed system compressor technology has
been around for decades and achieved quite remarkable levels of
high reliability at low cost.

Sometimes gas leaks are obvious (a friend had one where the pipe
coming out of the vibrating compressor was rubbing against a bit
of fixed metal, and we had the same thing in an air conditioning
unit at work. A blob of solder to fix the hole and bending the
pipe away from this point permanently fixed both cases after
regassing.

--
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"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message
...

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The appliance needs to PAT tested before it can be sold also origninal
instructions are needed.

--

"Rob" wrote in message
...

"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message
...

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The appliance needs to PAT tested before it can be sold also origninal
instructions are needed.


Not if you're getting it at half price, and it's new, never been used,
straight off display. Who cares if there's a hole in box, and the
instruction book is missing?

BigWallop wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...

"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message
...

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The appliance needs to PAT tested before it can be sold also
origninal instructions are needed.


Rob,


Answering through Big Wallop's post.

Now this reply is as silly a B & Q's was!

Elf and safety his gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now - and from
what I read in the newspaper sometime this week, even someone from the HSE
is saying so.


Unbeliever

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Now this reply is as silly a B & Q's was!

Elf and safety his gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now - and from
what I read in the newspaper sometime this week, even someone from the HSE
is saying so.


Unbeliever

Its not B & Q's Fault its the people who go ott on silly rules and
procedures who make
simple tasks into difficult ones.s

--

In message , Rob
writes

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Now this reply is as silly a B & Q's was!

Elf and safety his gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now - and from
what I read in the newspaper sometime this week, even someone from the HSE
is saying so.


Unbeliever

Its not B & Q's Fault its the people who go ott on silly rules and
procedures who make
simple tasks into difficult ones.s


Do they check that you are literate and of sufficient intelligence to
read and understand the instructions?


--
Bill

"BigWallop" wrote in message
m...
instructions are needed.


Not if you're getting it at half price, and it's new, never been used,
straight off display. Who cares if there's a hole in box, and the
instruction book is missing?

Yes it does friend, Not all items on display are working models. Also some
dont belong to the shop conncerned
they belong to the company who do the store displays.

I agree about the hole in the box , It would not bother me but electrical
items cannot be sold without instructions
if the product has been taken out of the box the item needs to be tested for
electical compliance.

--

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 17:48:27 -0000, "Rob" wrote:

if the product has been taken out of the box the item needs to be tested for
electical compliance.


Which law requires this?

"Peter Parry" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 17:48:27 -0000, "Rob" wrote:

if the product has been taken out of the box the item needs to be tested
for
electical compliance.


Which law requires this?

Not sure it is a law to be honest I worked in retail and i was told by
management that was
a requirement.

--

In article ,
Rob wrote:
if the product has been taken out of the box the item needs to be tested
for electical compliance.

Crikey. That gives Lidl a problem. And much of B&Q's stuff too.

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On 9 Nov, 17:10, "Rob" wrote:
"bilbo*baggins" wrote in message

...



With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The appliance needs to PAT tested before it can be sold also origninal
instructions are needed.

--

Instructions are only ever read when all else fails

In article
,
Trevor Smith wrote:
The appliance needs to PAT tested before it can be sold also origninal
instructions are needed.

Instructions are only ever read when all else fails

There is so much H&S drivel in instructions these days it's self defeating
as very few indeed will bother to wade through it. The few truly pertinent
points would be far more sensible.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes

There is so much H&S drivel in instructions these days it's self defeating
as very few indeed will bother to wade through it. The few truly pertinent
points would be far more sensible.


I have been employed for 30 + years and in the last 5 - 10 it seems that
as soon as some one spots a possible problem we have to have memos,
instructions, orders to cover it, no matter how remote the possibility
maybe.
We had a driver that didn't fit a roof rack on an estate car properly
and he lost the rack, complete with ladder on the M6! So rather than
bollocking him and leaving it at that an instruction went out that all
Co vehicles had to have the racks fitted permanently. So much for the
fact that the rest of us had been fitting them for years without
incident, we must now work to the lowest common denominator.

H&S MUST regard everyone as a blatant idiot.

I did a job for an H&S guy on a site a while back and he was beyond
belief. I kid you not, he warned me to be careful about going through a
door, not because there was a hazard on the other side but because there
maybe some one coming the other way. WOW I wish I had thought of that.
These people seem to live in a world of permanent death and destruction,
how did the human race survive without them??

Rant over, yes I know we need H&S but it is getting beyond a joke.
--
Bill

On Nov 10, 1:11*am, Bill wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes



There is so much H&S drivel in instructions these days it's self defeating
as very few indeed will bother to wade through it. The few truly pertinent
points would be far more sensible.

I have been employed for 30 + years and in the last 5 - 10 it seems that
as soon as some one spots a possible problem we have to have memos,
instructions, orders to cover it, no matter how remote the possibility
maybe.
We had a driver that didn't fit a roof rack on an estate car properly
and he lost the rack, complete with ladder on the M6! So rather than
bollocking him and leaving it at that an instruction went out that all
Co vehicles had to have the racks fitted permanently. So much for the
fact that the rest of us had been fitting them for years without
incident, we must now work to the lowest common denominator.

H&S MUST regard everyone as a blatant idiot.

I did a job for an H&S guy on a site a while back and he was beyond
belief. I kid you not, he warned me to be careful about going through a
door, not because there was a hazard on the other side but because there
maybe some one coming the other way. *WOW I wish I had thought of that.
These people seem to live in a world of permanent death and destruction,
how did the human race survive without them??

Rant over, yes I know we need H&S but it is getting beyond a joke.

A big part of the problem is the absence of a power balance. What the
safety man says goes, and its that simple. If there were the practical
ability to say no you got that wrong and have someone else decide, the
numerous flights of imagination they suffer would be curtailed
somewhat. OTOH the slew of ignorant objections would take up a whole
lot of time - there lies the problem.


NT

On 9 Nov, 14:30, "bilbo*baggins" wrote:
With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

Hi
What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

Regards
Al

al wrote:
On 9 Nov, 14:30, "bilbo*baggins" wrote:
With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's
for your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

Hi
What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

I thought that as well. If its offered for sale, its for sale surely?


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:26:33 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:

What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

I thought that as well. If its offered for sale, its for sale surely?

See my other post. It's an "invitation to treat", nothing more.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:26:33 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:

What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

I thought that as well. If its offered for sale, its for sale
surely?

See my other post. It's an "invitation to treat", nothing more.

I appreciate that, but what I meant is - why did they put a price ticket on
it if they couldn't sell it?


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:12:10 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:

I thought that as well. If its offered for sale, its for sale
surely?

See my other post. It's an "invitation to treat", nothing more.

I appreciate that, but what I meant is - why did they put a price ticket
on it if they couldn't sell it?

'Cause the sales assistant was talking ******** for some reason. The very
likely reason being unoffically keeping it back for a relative for friend.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:09:08 -0800 (PST), al wrote:

What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

"Invitation to treat". A seller marks a price. You make an offer (normally
at the marked price but it doesn't have to be), the seller can accept or
reject the offer, they are under no obligation to sell.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:44:32 UTC, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:09:08 -0800 (PST), al wrote:

What am I missing here, why was it on sale with a reduced price if
they could not sell it to you?

"Invitation to treat". A seller marks a price. You make an offer (normally
at the marked price but it doesn't have to be), the seller can accept or
reject the offer, they are under no obligation to sell.

Agreed. But a bit stupid to offer it in the first place if they weren't
going to sell. I suspect that the refusal was an individual decision by
someone who just wanted to feel important.

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On 10 Nov 2008 07:39:10 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

"Invitation to treat". A seller marks a price. You make an offer
(normally at the marked price but it doesn't have to be), the seller
can accept or reject the offer, they are under no obligation to sell.

Agreed. But a bit stupid to offer it in the first place if they weren't
going to sell. I suspect that the refusal was an individual decision by
someone who just wanted to feel important.

Yeah, was it the OP who said it was probably the sales assistant
unoffically keeping it back for a friend.

If I'd wanted the tool I would have noted the assistants name, quietly
wandered away and found the duty manager to enquire why assistant X wasn't
prepared to sell me the tool and if it was policy not to sell for the
reasons I had been given why the invitation had been posted in the first
place.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 06:30:48 -0800 (PST), bilbo*baggins wrote:

With regret, I visited the big B&Q barn in Hartcliffe, Bristol
yesterday and expressed interest in a Table Saw on the 'Tools' sales
floor that had been lifted down from display. It had an 'Ex-Display
Reduced' price sticker attached.

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

I pointed out that, in the more than 50-odd years I'd been using
tools, powered and unpowered, I'd somehow managed to hang on to my
original ten fingers.... but she was adamant. It would not be sold.

So I left without the table saw - and the trolley-full of other stuff
I'd selected.

Would someone please tell me how we can rid ourselves of these
creatures?

Buy two (the ex-display one and a complete one). That way they can't
say you don't have the instructions. As soon as you've left the
ex-display one in your car, go back for a full refund on the complete
one. If asked for a reason:, the box is too big to fit in your boot.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "bilbo*baggins"
saying something like:

The storeperson told me she 'couldn't under any circumstances' sell
the device to me, for 'Health and Safety' reasons. When I asked what
those reasons were, she told me that some of the packaging seemed to
missing. I persisted. She insisted that "You might not have all the
instructions, and cut your finger off. Then you could sue us. It's for
your own good......"

Obvious. She was keeping it for her boyfriend.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your ****er."

**** off, diybanter.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
snipped

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your ****er."

**** off, diybanter.

To all health and safety conscious workers, remember this rhyme.

We used to be a happy bunch
We stopped at noon to have our lunch
A short break at 10 and again at 3
That used to be enough for me

Now I have to send a memo
Get risk assessed and show a demo
It normally takes right through the night
To get permission to go for a
pee.


I thangyoo. :-)

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
snipped

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your ****er."

**** off, diybanter.


LOL I like that one. :-)

We had a health and safety advisor at one of our AGM's, about four or five
years ago, and I have found the actual tape of his little speech he made at
the table afterwards. I think it says it all.

We used to be a happy bunch
We stopped at noon to have our lunch
A morning break at 10 AM
And the afternoon at 3
That used to be enough, you see

Now we have to send a memo
Get risk assessed and have a demo
I've seen a meeting last all night
To allow our staff to have a
canteen on site

Because.

We used to be a happy bunch
With a break at noon to have out lunch
A morning break at 10 AM
And the afternoon at 3
That used to be enough, you see

I thangyoo. :-)