Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

There is a picture of one in NZ which is really impressive. It's
mainly cast iron and had 3 graduated concentric burner rings with pot
stands cast in as part of the monolithic body. There are substantial
feed pipes, at the end of which are 3 separate taps to operate each
ring independently. This seemed to be set up for bottled gas but it
may be convertible, or have a natural gas option.
Here's a picture of it.
http://tiny.cc/1vS48

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?
--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:10:00 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

There is a picture of one in NZ which is really impressive. It's
mainly cast iron and had 3 graduated concentric burner rings with pot
stands cast in as part of the monolithic body. There are substantial
feed pipes, at the end of which are 3 separate taps to operate each
ring independently. This seemed to be set up for bottled gas but it
may be convertible, or have a natural gas option.
Here's a picture of it.
http://tiny.cc/1vS48

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?

About all you will get now is this type of thing.

http://www.waudbys.co.uk/products/details/16002.html

I remember every woodworkshop you went in would have one in a corner.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:10:00 +0100, Geoff Mills wrote:

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?

bes.ltd.uk?

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John Stumbles

87.5% of statistics are made up

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:48:03 GMT, EricP
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:10:00 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

There is a picture of one in NZ which is really impressive. It's
mainly cast iron and had 3 graduated concentric burner rings with pot
stands cast in as part of the monolithic body. There are substantial
feed pipes, at the end of which are 3 separate taps to operate each
ring independently. This seemed to be set up for bottled gas but it
may be convertible, or have a natural gas option.
Here's a picture of it.
http://tiny.cc/1vS48

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?

About all you will get now is this type of thing.

http://www.waudbys.co.uk/products/details/16002.html

Thanks, it looks OK but as it comes under "Caravan Accessories" it's
probably designed for LPG use.

I remember every woodworkshop you went in would have one in a corner.

Yes, I'll bet there's thousands of them buried in the dust. They're
just not showing up on eBay at present.





--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:52:42 GMT, John Stumbles
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:10:00 +0100, Geoff Mills wrote:

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?

bes.ltd.uk?

Thanks yes, good site. There are some relatively fancy looking items
under the "Natural gas" heading. I don't yet know if these will do the
trick but I'll enquire.
The more familiar and traditional looking units are all under the LPG
heading. Are these things convertible?
--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:49:54 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:48:03 GMT, EricP
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:10:00 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

There is a picture of one in NZ which is really impressive. It's
mainly cast iron and had 3 graduated concentric burner rings with pot
stands cast in as part of the monolithic body. There are substantial
feed pipes, at the end of which are 3 separate taps to operate each
ring independently. This seemed to be set up for bottled gas but it
may be convertible, or have a natural gas option.
Here's a picture of it.
http://tiny.cc/1vS48

Can anyone tell me if there's anything similar to the item described
above available anywhere in the UK?

About all you will get now is this type of thing.

http://www.waudbys.co.uk/products/details/16002.html

Thanks, it looks OK but as it comes under "Caravan Accessories" it's
probably designed for LPG use.

Try looking for an industrial gas burner ring

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/Boiling_Rings.htm

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:19:18 +0100, Alang
wrote:

Try looking for an industrial gas burner ring

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/Boiling_Rings.htm

Great selection. Thanks for the link. I haven't separated the NG
options yet but there are some there.
--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:13:14 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Geoff Mills wrote:
Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

Gas boiling ring (Scroll down page)
http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/...Equipment.html
"Propane Burner 8.5kW, Heavy duty burner ideal for 50 -100 litre
batches [of beer]. No flame protection so not suitable for use in the
house. Requires propane regulator"

Cast iron single, double and triple boiling rings
http://www.caravanadditions.co.uk/ac...Equipment.html


Similar at
http://www.shop.russellgas.co.uk/ind...LAYCAT&catid=9
Also a Bullfinch furnace.

Also at
http://www.tgsindustrial.co.uk/Page/....aspx?pgid=288

Above mostly for LPG, may not be suitable for NG. Are 'gas rings' still
permitted?

Good question. It would be reassuring to know the answer. The options
are predominantly LPG for sure.
Owain


--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:35:21 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:19:18 +0100, Alang
wrote:

Try looking for an industrial gas burner ring

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/Boiling_Rings.htm

Great selection. Thanks for the link. I haven't separated the NG
options yet but there are some there.

It's possible there aren't any portable N gas burners now. I suspect
H&S will come down on them pretty hard. The days when we could shove
one ned of a rubber tube onto a gas ring , the other end onto a gas
tap, turn on and light up are long gone.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:20:19 +0100, Alang
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:35:21 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:19:18 +0100, Alang
wrote:

Try looking for an industrial gas burner ring

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/Boiling_Rings.htm

Great selection. Thanks for the link. I haven't separated the NG
options yet but there are some there.

It's possible there aren't any portable N gas burners now. I suspect
H&S will come down on them pretty hard. The days when we could shove
one ned of a rubber tube onto a gas ring , the other end onto a gas
tap, turn on and light up are long gone.

Not in the lab at my wife's school. Nor on the BES website showing
single and multiple outlet tapped gas points for use with the likes of
bunsens and gas pokers.
--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:43:29 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:20:19 +0100, Alang
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:35:21 +0100, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:19:18 +0100, Alang
wrote:

Try looking for an industrial gas burner ring

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/Boiling_Rings.htm

Great selection. Thanks for the link. I haven't separated the NG
options yet but there are some there.

It's possible there aren't any portable N gas burners now. I suspect
H&S will come down on them pretty hard. The days when we could shove
one ned of a rubber tube onto a gas ring , the other end onto a gas
tap, turn on and light up are long gone.

Not in the lab at my wife's school. Nor on the BES website showing
single and multiple outlet tapped gas points for use with the likes of
bunsens and gas pokers.

That surprises me. Given the health and safety paranoia it is amazing
school pupils are let anywhere near dangerous things like bunsen
burners.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:53:46 +0100, Geoff Mills wrote:

The more familiar and traditional looking units are all under the LPG
heading. Are these things convertible?

I'd guess not: it tends to be the other way round, appliances supplied
for NG with conversion nozzles for LPG. Could phone BES and ask though -
they're not just box-shifters.

--
John Stumbles

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from Owain contains these words:

Geoff Mills wrote:
Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.
There were none on eBay and very few to be found in UK via Google.
These few were quite flimsy looking burners held in a pressed steel
frame.

Gas boiling ring (Scroll down page)
http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/...Equipment.html
"Propane Burner 8.5kW, Heavy duty burner ideal for 50 -100 litre
batches [of beer]. No flame protection so not suitable for use in the
house. Requires propane regulator"

Cast iron single, double and triple boiling rings
http://www.caravanadditions.co.uk/ac...Equipment.html


Similar at
http://www.shop.russellgas.co.uk/ind...LAYCAT&catid=9
Also a Bullfinch furnace.

Also at
http://www.tgsindustrial.co.uk/Page/....aspx?pgid=288

Above mostly for LPG, may not be suitable for NG. Are 'gas rings' still
permitted?

Owain




Have a look at
http://www.socal.co.uk/At_Work/Boili...200)_/33/17578

Should be powerful enough for your needs :-)

On 27 Sep, 09:10, Geoff Mills wrote:
Hi, I did a Google and eBay search for a gas ring to run off domestic
natural gas. It's required to heat a glue boiler in my workshop.

Animal-based glue? (pearl / scotch)

Get an electrically-heated, thermostatically-controlled waterbath.
Don't faff about continually wasting time watching a gluepot burning
on a gas-ring - it's a damn nuisance to all concerned.

Yes, I know they're £80 or so for a new one, and nearly the same on
eBay. Mine's chem-lab surplus and cost far, far less.