I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push buttons,
but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket adaptors, be
a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring main, just put an
adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of them and
end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed panel on the wall
near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and add push buttons to the
contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press as i
leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put in an
isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i dont want all
the machines to start up at the same time when it's turned back on, and at
times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that has
an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to find them,
most of the photos of the things people are selling are so crap and prolly
not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off function??
if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm hoping they will not
be the most expensive ones about.. some places do the 5 pack for just over a
tenner, but it's not got an all off function that i can tell.

gazz wrote:

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm
hoping they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do
the 5 pack for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off function
that i can tell.


I have some switches in the Domia Lite range.

http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk/acatalog/domialite.html

(I can't actually see a difference between that and the Bye Bye Standby
range from the same company - except colour.

http://www.byebyestandby.com/ )

Not as cheap as you'd like. But they seem to work pretty well and do
what we need. It works fine from downstairs to upstairs in our house.

They do have a group function. But, realistically, you can only manage 8
different addresses with one remote. (You can program any number of
remotes to a single 'address' but devices with the same address will
switch on/off together.)

One supplier (others are mentioned on the sites above):

http://scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=7-0-73-504-0

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gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket
adaptors, be a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring main,
just put an adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of them
and end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed panel on
the wall near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and add push
buttons to the contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press
as i leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put in
an isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i dont
want all the machines to start up at the same time when it's turned back
on, and at times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that
has an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to find
them, most of the photos of the things people are selling are so crap
and prolly not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm
hoping they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do
the 5 pack for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off function
that i can tell.


Robert dyas have a remote that will switch 3 different channel sockets
on the same remote, and you can have as many sockets as you like on the
same channel, and up two four different frequencies for a total of 12
different socket individually switched but you will need 4 remotes for
that, £9.99 for tx and rx and a bit less for just the rx socket,range is
20m or so and the remote will even stand a full wash cycle and still
work ;-) been there got the t-shirt

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Kevin wrote:
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,


Robert dyas have a remote that will switch 3 different channel sockets
on the same remote, and you can have as many sockets as you like on the
same channel, and up two four different frequencies for a total of 12
different socket individually switched but you will need 4 remotes for
that, £9.99 for tx and rx and a bit less for just the rx socket,range is
20m or so and the remote will even stand a full wash cycle and still
work ;-) been there got the t-shirt

http://www.robertdyas.co.uk/webapp/w... earchResults

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Kevin R
Reply address works

Kevin wrote:
Kevin wrote:
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,


Robert dyas have a remote that will switch 3 different channel sockets
on the same remote, and you can have as many sockets as you like on
the same channel, and up two four different frequencies for a total of
12 different socket individually switched but you will need 4 remotes
for that, £9.99 for tx and rx and a bit less for just the rx
socket,range is 20m or so and the remote will even stand a full wash
cycle and still work ;-) been there got the t-shirt

http://www.robertdyas.co.uk/webapp/w... earchResults


Not knowing what the power rating of your equipment is this may not be
acceptable, but could you use one as the "master and plug the others
into it?

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
Not knowing what the power rating of your equipment is this may not be
acceptable, but could you use one as the "master and plug the others into
it?

pinball machines prolly 200 to 300 watts, fruit machines 200 watts, pachislo
machines 150 watts etc,

but i need to be able to controll each machines power individually, so i can
select which machines i want on as i go through the door, rather than having
them all one when i'm not going to use half of them as they still pull the
power when in attract mode,

just want something easier than reaching behind each machine to work the
sockets switch, as most arcade machines dont have a power switch, and i
really dont want to be adding any, as i still want the all off feature as i
leave the room to ensure everyting is dead, but when i return be able to
select which machines i turn back on instead of having them all come one at
once.

gazz wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
Not knowing what the power rating of your equipment is this may not be
acceptable, but could you use one as the "master and plug the others
into it?

pinball machines prolly 200 to 300 watts, fruit machines 200 watts,
pachislo machines 150 watts etc,

but i need to be able to controll each machines power individually, so i
can select which machines i want on as i go through the door, rather
than having them all one when i'm not going to use half of them as they
still pull the power when in attract mode,

just want something easier than reaching behind each machine to work the
sockets switch, as most arcade machines dont have a power switch, and i
really dont want to be adding any, as i still want the all off feature
as i leave the room to ensure everyting is dead, but when i return be
able to select which machines i turn back on instead of having them all
come one at once.


Sounds like a case for a consumer unit, to me..

"gazz" wrote in message ...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
Not knowing what the power rating of your equipment is this may not be
acceptable, but could you use one as the "master and plug the others into
it?

pinball machines prolly 200 to 300 watts, fruit machines 200 watts,
pachislo machines 150 watts etc,

but i need to be able to controll each machines power individually, so i
can select which machines i want on as i go through the door, rather than
having them all one when i'm not going to use half of them as they still
pull the power when in attract mode,

just want something easier than reaching behind each machine to work the
sockets switch, as most arcade machines dont have a power switch, and i
really dont want to be adding any, as i still want the all off feature as
i leave the room to ensure everyting is dead, but when i return be able to
select which machines i turn back on instead of having them all come one
at once.

You could use X10 controllers, but they are pricy.
Another way is to fit the sort of switches you use on power tools, these are
on a magnetic latch so if the power fails they don't turn back on until you
press the button, some of those with a big emergency stop button to switch
the lot off.
Again not cheap, but far more reliable than the wireless stuff.
Most rcds also turn off when the power is removed and are cheaper than zero
volt switches BTW.

In article ,
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

Still the best way to go - and if done neatly will look the Ds Bs, unlike
a load of plug in whatsits.

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"gazz" wrote in message ...
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push buttons,
but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket adaptors,
be a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring main, just put an
adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of them
and end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed panel on the
wall near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and add push buttons
to the contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press as
i leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put in an
isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i dont want
all the machines to start up at the same time when it's turned back on,
and at times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that has
an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to find them,
most of the photos of the things people are selling are so crap and prolly
not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm hoping
they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do the 5 pack
for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off function that i can
tell.



I've got the maplins ones, and you can configure the button they use on the
remote via a set of dip switches on the back.
I have in the past had 2 with the same code, so that the same button
switches them off.
I can't see any reason why many couldn't have the same code.

The only problem is that the remote "toggles" the switch, so if the switches
with the same code get out of sync then pressing the button will switch some
off and others on...

Mat

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
gazz wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
Not knowing what the power rating of your equipment is this may not
be acceptable, but could you use one as the "master and plug the
others into it?

pinball machines prolly 200 to 300 watts, fruit machines 200 watts,
pachislo machines 150 watts etc,

but i need to be able to controll each machines power individually, so
i can select which machines i want on as i go through the door, rather
than having them all one when i'm not going to use half of them as
they still pull the power when in attract mode,

just want something easier than reaching behind each machine to work
the sockets switch, as most arcade machines dont have a power switch,
and i really dont want to be adding any, as i still want the all off
feature as i leave the room to ensure everyting is dead, but when i
return be able to select which machines i turn back on instead of
having them all come one at once.


Sounds like a case for a consumer unit, to me..

Can't help thinking that would probably work out more expensive than the
Domia Lite system. :-)

--
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Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Mat C wrote:


"gazz" wrote in message
...
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket
adaptors, be a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring
main, just put an adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of
them and end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed
panel on the wall near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and
add push buttons to the contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press
as i leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put
in an isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i
dont want all the machines to start up at the same time when it's
turned back on, and at times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that
has an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to
find them, most of the photos of the things people are selling are so
crap and prolly not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to
me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm
hoping they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do
the 5 pack for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off
function that i can tell.



I've got the maplins ones, and you can configure the button they use on
the remote via a set of dip switches on the back.
I have in the past had 2 with the same code, so that the same button
switches them off.
I can't see any reason why many couldn't have the same code.

The only problem is that the remote "toggles" the switch, so if the
switches with the same code get out of sync then pressing the button
will switch some off and others on...

Mat

Ooops - not so good. Never had that with our Domia Lite - which has
separate On and Off buttons. (No - honestly not a salesman for them.
Just a satisfied customer - and wish they were cheaper.) They also use a
standard lithium button in the remote - not the (relatively) odd battery
that some other remotes use.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket
adaptors, be a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring main,
just put an adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of them
and end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed panel on
the wall near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and add push
buttons to the contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press
as i leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put in
an isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i dont
want all the machines to start up at the same time when it's turned back
on, and at times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that
has an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to find
them, most of the photos of the things people are selling are so crap
and prolly not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm
hoping they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do
the 5 pack for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off function
that i can tell.



Could be a job for X10.

X10 = Home automation standard. A bit old but has a lot of bits available.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard)

Buy from:

http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk (There's a link to this site already in
the thread, but X10 is different from Domia.)

or:

http://www.letsautomate.com/

Many others, search Google for X10.

Lots of control software too, so you can hook the whole lot up to a PC.

Robin wrote:
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

first i was going to build a panel using latching relays and push
buttons, but it'd mean upto 16 mains cables going to the panel,

So instead i thought about using those remote controlled socket
adaptors, be a lot easier, keep the machines on the existing ring
main, just put an adaptor on each socket,

i know the most you seem to get are 5 packs, so i'd need 3 packs of
them and end up with 3 remotes, but i plan on still having a fixed
panel on the wall near the door, and i'd take the remotes appart and
add push buttons to the contacts for the origional buttons,

however the whole idea of doing this is to have one button i can press
as i leave the room to shut everything down, (yes i know i could put
in an isolator switch near the door to cut power to the room, but i
dont want all the machines to start up at the same time when it's
turned back on, and at times i only want a few machines on)

I believe i've seen these remote controlled sockets with a remote that
has an all off button, but now i'm looking for them, i cant seem to
find them, most of the photos of the things people are selling are so
crap and prolly not of the actual units for sale, it's not much use to
me.

Anyone have a set of these sockets with a remote with an all off
function?? if so what's the make? as i need 15 of the buggers, i'm
hoping they will not be the most expensive ones about.. some places do
the 5 pack for just over a tenner, but it's not got an all off
function that i can tell.



Could be a job for X10.

X10 = Home automation standard. A bit old but has a lot of bits available.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard)

Buy from:

http://www.simplyautomate.co.uk (There's a link to this site already in
the thread, but X10 is different from Domia.)

or:

http://www.letsautomate.com/

Many others, search Google for X10.

Lots of control software too, so you can hook the whole lot up to a PC.




I thought that as two remotes were more than the OP wished, a whole PC
(or other suitabke computer) would be way too much! :-)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Rod wrote:
Robin wrote:
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

snip

Many others, search Google for X10.

Lots of control software too, so you can hook the whole lot up to a PC.




I thought that as two remotes were more than the OP wished, a whole PC
(or other suitabke computer) would be way too much! :-)


X10 doesn't *need* a computer. I mentioned it to give an idea of the
flexibility.

The OP may prefer something like:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/X10-Automati.../dp/B001F7LZME

There's a few similar devices available, some wired, some RF.

- Regards
Robin

Robin wrote:
Rod wrote:
Robin wrote:
gazz wrote:
I want to put the machines in my games room on some sort of centeral
controll.

snip

Many others, search Google for X10.

Lots of control software too, so you can hook the whole lot up to a PC.




I thought that as two remotes were more than the OP wished, a whole PC
(or other suitabke computer) would be way too much! :-)


X10 doesn't *need* a computer. I mentioned it to give an idea of the
flexibility.

The OP may prefer something like:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/X10-Automati.../dp/B001F7LZME


There's a few similar devices available, some wired, some RF.

- Regards
Robin

Right - hadn't realised quite how neat it could be.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org