Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).

Cheers,

John

aboleth wrote in


Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).


You'd need some pretty effective venting on the enclosure to get rid of the
heat expelled from the freezer.

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:07:53 -0700 (PDT), aboleth
wrote:

Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).

Cheers,

John

Main question is whether the freezer would work there. The basic
proposition is no different from sticking it in the garage, but newer
freezers are designed to work at normal room temperatures, not outside
ones.

"aboleth" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).

Cheers,

John

Weight might be a problem - depending on size of course. Our chest freezer
is VERY big and I tend to think of it as a standard size :-)

Mary

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:07:53 -0700 (PDT), aboleth
wrote:

Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).

Cheers,

John

Main question is whether the freezer would work there. The basic
proposition is no different from sticking it in the garage, but newer
freezers are designed to work at normal room temperatures, not outside
ones.

That's only half true..
fridge freezers with one compressor don't work outside normal room temps.
A freezer should have no problems.

The reason fridge freezers fail is the thermostat is normally in the fridge,
if the outside is so cold that the fridge doesn't need to run then neither
does the freezer. So the freezer part gets too warm.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:38:19 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:


Main question is whether the freezer would work there. The basic
proposition is no different from sticking it in the garage, but newer
freezers are designed to work at normal room temperatures, not outside
ones.

That's only half true..
fridge freezers with one compressor don't work outside normal room temps.
A freezer should have no problems.

The reason fridge freezers fail is the thermostat is normally in the fridge,
if the outside is so cold that the fridge doesn't need to run then neither
does the freezer. So the freezer part gets too warm.

Last explanation I got involved a load of guff about vapourisation
dynamics and compression logistics.

You sure it's as simple as that?
(Not that I dare doubt you on a topic like this) )

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:38:19 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:


Main question is whether the freezer would work there. The basic
proposition is no different from sticking it in the garage, but newer
freezers are designed to work at normal room temperatures, not outside
ones.

That's only half true..
fridge freezers with one compressor don't work outside normal room temps.
A freezer should have no problems.

The reason fridge freezers fail is the thermostat is normally in the
fridge,
if the outside is so cold that the fridge doesn't need to run then neither
does the freezer. So the freezer part gets too warm.

Last explanation I got involved a load of guff about vapourisation
dynamics and compression logistics.

You sure it's as simple as that?
(Not that I dare doubt you on a topic like this) )

That's the reason single compressor fridge freezers fail when its cold.
I can't see why someone would design a compressor/etc. that didn't work in
the cold.
Its like saying don't go on holiday and expect your food to be frozen.

It was probably someone trying to BS you into thinking they were experts.
;-)

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:05:10 GMT, EricP
wrote:


The reason fridge freezers fail is the thermostat is normally in the fridge,
if the outside is so cold that the fridge doesn't need to run then neither
does the freezer. So the freezer part gets too warm.

Last explanation I got involved a load of guff about vapourisation
dynamics and compression logistics.

You sure it's as simple as that?
(Not that I dare doubt you on a topic like this) )

That definitely happens. It's happened to us. If the only thermostat
(in the fridge) is set at 5c and the ambient temp goes down to 2 or 3
it will switch off and stay off.

A seperate issue seems to be that nowadays fridges are spec'd and
built for the market they are sold in (modern "green" refrigerants)
but many of them are designed for the Mediterranean but end up being
sold here because it's cheaper.

It's possible a fridge or freezer intended for use inside in Spain or
Portugal might struggle outside in an English winter. Why? you might
ask, it's colder here. It could be that for instance the circulating
fan in a frost free appliance might come on less often or not at all
leading to temperature gradients and localised thawing within the food
storage cavity. Maybe.

Derek

"aboleth" wrote in message
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Hi,

Run out of space in the kitchen, could do with a chest freezer. Out
the back door is some raised decking (we're 1 floor up). Is there any
way to put a freezer out there? I thought about buying one of those
low-rise plastic shedlings, but would that be safe? What kind of
electrical arrangements would be necessary (I don't imagine running an
extension lead out the window would work out).

Won't work. Most modern freezers are spec'd at minimum +5°C operating
temperture.

My mate had a very rusty old Hoover make freezer in his shed and got a nice
shiny replacement. Come the cold weather, temp alarm goes off, reading -10°C
in freezer bit as external temperature is too cold at 0°C.

The normal catagory ratings are
N='normal' +16ºC to +32ºC; SN='sub-normal' +10ºC to +32ºC; ST='sub-tropical'
+18ºC to +38ºC.
The appliance will not cool correctly if the room temperature falls outside
the stated range for long periods

My mate got it taken back (by Argos) as not suitable and eventually got a
freezer (special order from local electrical shop) that was suitable for
lower temperature operation, and it works fine in the outside shed.