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Silicon sealant
I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting
and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna -- Anna Kettle Lime plaster repair and conservation Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc Tel: ***(+44) *01359 230642 Mob: *(+44) *07976 649862 Please look at my website for examples of my work at: www.kettlenet.co.uk * |
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"Anna Kettle" wrote in message
... I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Don't know about Lidl's but generally yes. Divide the "guaranteed for xx years" on the tube by about 5 to get the actual possible lifetime (the years on the tube esxist only in a parallel universe somewhere - bit like the number of rolls of wallpaper a packet of paste will put up). "Guaranteed 35 years" from a reputable maker (eg Dow-Corning) is usually fairly good. -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna -- Anna Kettle Lime plaster repair and conservation Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc Tel: (+44) 01359 230642 Mob: (+44) 07976 649862 Please look at my website for examples of my work at: www.kettlenet.co.uk Cheap stuff won't last 2 mins. Get some dow corning. |
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Bob Mannix wrote:
"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Don't know about Lidl's but generally yes. Divide the "guaranteed for xx years" on the tube by about 5 to get the actual possible lifetime (the years on the tube esxist only in a parallel universe somewhere - bit like the number of rolls of wallpaper a packet of paste will put up). "Guaranteed 35 years" from a reputable maker (eg Dow-Corning) is usually fairly good. Further to that consider the problems of removing it, if it turns bad on you. I would buy the best from a reputable brand. |
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"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna I have used Lidl white silicon sealant a few times on rented property bathrooms and its ok, but not as good as for instances Dow Corning. To put it another way, its about half as good as Dow Corning but 1/4 of the price. - |
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"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna -- Anna Kettle Lime plaster repair and conservation Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc Tel: (+44) 01359 230642 Mob: (+44) 07976 649862 Please look at my website for examples of my work at: www.kettlenet.co.uk If it smells of vinegar as it sets then usually it's good. No vinegary smell and chalky feel then no good!! AWEM |
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:31:31 +0100, Andrew Mawson wrote:
If it smells of vinegar as it sets then usually it's good. No vinegary smell and chalky feel then no good!! I suspect that's just the difference between acetoxy (vinegary smell) and non-acetoxy types. In some applications (can't remember which) the acetic acid given off by acetoxy cure silicones is undesirable. As for durability, the thing that makes sealants unacceptable quickly is mildew. I've had that on Cow Dorning as well as El Cheapo brands, due to protracted high humidity. Humidistat-controlled fans are a step in the right direction but the rest of the house has to be warm and dry for the fan to reduce the humitidy in the room. I've got a dehumidifier in the bathroom. -- YAPH http://yaph.co.uk I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous |
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YAPH wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:31:31 +0100, Andrew Mawson wrote: If it smells of vinegar as it sets then usually it's good. No vinegary smell and chalky feel then no good!! I suspect that's just the difference between acetoxy (vinegary smell) and non-acetoxy types. In some applications (can't remember which) the acetic acid given off by acetoxy cure silicones is undesirable. The so called "Neutral Cure" ones are good, however don't assume that they are actually silicone unless it says so. You get the same lack of smell with non silicone acrylic sealants, which will be very poor in comparison. As for durability, the thing that makes sealants unacceptable quickly is mildew. I've had that on Cow Dorning as well as El Cheapo brands, due to protracted high humidity. Humidistat-controlled fans are a step in the right direction but the rest of the house has to be warm and dry for the fan to reduce the humitidy in the room. I've got a dehumidifier in the bathroom. Use a "sanitary" type in damp atmospheres as well. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...licone_Sealant -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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The ALDI stuff that doesn't smell of vinegar and takes at least 48 hours to set. Skin forms after an hour (I think) If you get any water on it before it has fully set it starts to dissolve. Sounds like an acrylic sealant rather than a silicone one then... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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wrote: The ALDI stuff that doesn't smell of vinegar and takes at least 48 hours to set. Skin forms after an hour (I think) If you get any water on it before it has fully set it starts to dissolve. Sounds like an acrylic sealant rather than a silicone one then... Yup. Excellent stuiff, but not silicone. 'Decorators Caulk' |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... wrote: The ALDI stuff that doesn't smell of vinegar and takes at least 48 hours to set. Skin forms after an hour (I think) If you get any water on it before it has fully set it starts to dissolve. Sounds like an acrylic sealant rather than a silicone one then... Lidl and Aldi do both silicone and acrylic sealants.. make sure you use the right one as it was in German last time. |
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wrote: I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna DON'T BUY IT!!! I bought some cheap stuff from Aldi. I suspect the LIDL stuff is the same. (about £2 per tube) It was a complete waste of time - I've had to redo the shower I used it on. If I could I would sue the sods for wasted time and effort. I've used their silicon sealant and it seemed the same as shed branded stuff - ie ok but much cheaper. Are you sure what you used was actually silicon? Most of their products like this have poor or non existing English descriptions. -- *It ain't the size, it's... er... no, it IS ..the size. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: I am going to need silicon sealant for bathroom and kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna DON'T BUY IT!!! I bought some cheap stuff from Aldi. I suspect the LIDL stuff is the same. (about £2 per tube) It was a complete waste of time - I've had to redo the shower I used it on. If I could I would sue the sods for wasted time and effort. I've used their silicon sealant and it seemed the same as shed branded stuff - ie ok but much cheaper. Are you sure what you used was actually silicon? Most of their products like this have poor or non existing English descriptions. Screwfix do an acceptable sanitary silicone at about £1.70 IIRC. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Tue, 12 Aug200810:59:35 GMT, (Anna Kettle) wrote: I am going to need *silicon sealant forbathroomand kitchen fitting and I see that Lidl selling some at a bargain basement price next Monday Is there any difference between that and the more expensive versions? Anna DON'T BUY IT!!! I bought some cheap stuff from Aldi. I suspect the LIDL stuff is the same. (about £2 per tube) It was a complete waste of time - I've had to redo the shower I used it on. If I could I would sue the sods for wasted time and effort. The ALDI stuff that doesn't smell of vinegar and takes at least 48 hours to set. Skin forms after an hour (I think) If you get any water on it before it has fully set it starts to dissolve. I think the Wickes £4.50 one is okay - I suspect the more expensive one they do is rubbish - but I'm basing that on the curing times they give and the fact they say it doesn't smell. Hi, I also am fixing up my bathroom and fitting a bathroom suite, taps and shower ect not sure if this helps but i got a great deal on a bathroom suite from http://www.truerooms.com/ they offer free UK delivery. Hope this helps, John. |
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