and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found, cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored. Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches, for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea, it all has to be treated.
Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

"johannes" wrote in message
...


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found,

err..it falls out of the sky, haven't you noticed?

cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored.

Water 'stores' itself, ever seen a lake?

Pipes have dropped in prices dramitically.
No new pipes in our city for the last 200 years,

Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches,

Oh they clean the sea do they?
Funny how I have never seen them doing this work.

for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea,


No it is sold as fertilizer. DO I get paid for the **** I provide - no.

it all has to be treated.


You can't reat ****.

Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

snipped cross posting

Bazzer Smith wrote:

Careful, this is a troll aka Half Pint, Donald McTrevor etc,

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

No, it has increased slightly above the rate of inflation, but far less
than energy prices.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

You are deluded. Try watching it in wide screen it will seem better.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

Freely available - they are public listed companies.

Now go and obsess about something else.

--
Cheers,

John.

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:41:37 +0100, johannes
wrote:



Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found, cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored. Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches, for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea, it all has to be treated.
Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

There is a seperate charge for sewage disposal, and every single drop
of piped drinking water has indeed fallen "Out of the air".

HTH

Derek

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:41:37 +0100, johannes
wrote:



Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found, cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored. Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches, for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea, it all has to be treated.
Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

There is a seperate charge for sewage disposal, and every single drop
of piped drinking water has indeed fallen "Out of the air".


Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,
yet they can have afford to have the **** ****ing out broken
pipes for months on end.

They should be made to pay the rate *they charge* us for the water
they waste. The leaks would be repaired over night if they had to do that.


HTH

Derek

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

As a shareholder I am quite happy, I have made a fortune from all the idiots
who
choose to pay extra with British Gas.

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

Remember how we used to treat water and sewage before privatisation?

Gaz

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

"johannes" wrote in message
...


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found,

err..it falls out of the sky, haven't you noticed?

cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored.

Water 'stores' itself, ever seen a lake?

Pipes have dropped in prices dramitically.
No new pipes in our city for the last 200 years,

Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches,

Oh they clean the sea do they?
Funny how I have never seen them doing this work.

for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea,


No it is sold as fertilizer. DO I get paid for the **** I provide - no.

it all has to be treated.

The seas around us have never been cleaner since the industrial revolution,
and neither have the rivers and waterways around the uk. The vast bulk of
this improvement is caused by the changes in the way water is managed.

Gaz

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:21:04 +0100
"Bazzer Smith" wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?



I don't really want to join this discussion except to ask (as it came
up in't pub tonight) what the calorific value of a politician is?

Do you need anything special by way of flue to get rid of the exhaust?

Does anyone know where I can get a large pile of them at reasonable
rates?

Thanks.
R.

Bazzer Smith wrote:

"johannes" wrote in message
...


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found,

err..it falls out of the sky, haven't you noticed?

cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored.

Water 'stores' itself, ever seen a lake?

Good luck to you if you drink water off a lake.

Pipes have dropped in prices dramitically.
No new pipes in our city for the last 200 years,

What's dramitically?

Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches,

Oh they clean the sea do they?
Funny how I have never seen them doing this work.

You have to be an early riser.

You can't reat ****.

Yes, you can, even yours!

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:02:12 +0100, "Gaz" wrote:

Remember how we used to treat water and sewage before privatisation?

It's always been private around here.

--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

So why don't you cancel your water contract and just use the water that
falls into your garden?

"Gaz" wrote in message
...

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

"johannes" wrote in message
...


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found,

err..it falls out of the sky, haven't you noticed?

cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored.

Water 'stores' itself, ever seen a lake?

Pipes have dropped in prices dramitically.
No new pipes in our city for the last 200 years,

Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches,

Oh they clean the sea do they?
Funny how I have never seen them doing this work.

for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea,


No it is sold as fertilizer. DO I get paid for the **** I provide - no.

it all has to be treated.

The seas around us have never been cleaner since the industrial
revolution, and neither have the rivers and waterways around the uk. The
vast bulk of this improvement is caused by the changes in the way water is
managed.

No thats just where you are dead wrong.
The water is cleaner but it is not down to the water companies.
Ever seen a water company boat on you local river scrubbing the water?
No you fecking have not because they don't do it.

The reason why the water is cleaner is gue to anti-polution laws.
Firms can't just dump their **** in the local river any more.
Same goes for the quality of the rain, we don;t get acid rain anymore,
the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than the
****
from my water company.

So the arguement regardinig polutin works against te water companies, it
should cost less to treat the water than it ever did, most of it requires
no treatment at all, thats why they can pump water out of rivers, they could
not
do they before becasue it was too polluted.

So it's **** al to do with the way it is managed, it's down to criminals
profiteering from a monopoly - but them what else did you expect?
f



Gaz

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than the
****

I prefer mine without the bird cr@p.

from my water company.

So the arguement regardinig polutin works against te water companies, it
should cost less to treat the water than it ever did, most of it requires
no treatment at all, thats why they can pump water out of rivers, they
could not
do they before becasue it was too polluted.

It still requires cleaning, I wouldn't drink river water unless it was
essential and had been boiled (it costs more to boil the water than to clean
it in the water works BTW).
The people down stream have better water of course.. its been filtered by a
million kidneys.

So it's **** al to do with the way it is managed, it's down to criminals
profiteering from a monopoly - but them what else did you expect?

My water company was one of the cheapest and it has never been in public
ownership it has been a private company since the supply started. I wonder
what's forced them to build new plant and cost us more?

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:54:34 +0100, "Michael C"
wrote:

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?

So why don't you cancel your water contract and just use the water that
falls into your garden?


That doesn't work you still get billed for it.

We used to have an office without any water supply, we still had to
pay water rates. (Because, they said, of what fell on the roof) !

Derek

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:28:01 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than the
****

I prefer mine without the bird cr@p.


Seagulls, reservoirs ?

Derek

"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:28:01 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than
the
****

I prefer mine without the bird cr@p.


Seagulls, reservoirs ?

Water works and stuff that costs cash.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:08:45 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Derek Geldard" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:28:01 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than
the
****

I prefer mine without the bird cr@p.


Seagulls, reservoirs ?

Water works and stuff that costs cash.


Still not nice is it ?

They even allow motor boats on some of them. :-(

Derek

In article ,
Huge writes:
The water companies are also having to make up for decades of chronic
underfunding while they were State owned. Essentially, we got stitched up
by the State who exported the problem to the private sector.

This strategy is now being reused by large financial institutions who are
busy exporting their problems back to the state.
--
SAm.

Huge wrote:
On 2008-08-11, johannes wrote:

Bazzer Smith wrote:
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.
Untrue. Water has to be found, cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored. Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches, for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea, it all has to be treated.
Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

The water companies are also having to make up for decades of chronic
underfunding while they were State owned. Essentially, we got stitched up by the
State who exported the problem to the private sector.

Exactly.

"Should we increase taxes to fund the water boards?"

" er..no. People dont like taxes".

"Oh well., privatise them and they can pay more water rates instead!"

"Done deal".

Derek Geldard wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:54:34 +0100, "Michael C"
wrote:

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?
So why don't you cancel your water contract and just use the water that
falls into your garden?


That doesn't work you still get billed for it.

We used to have an office without any water supply, we still had to
pay water rates. (Because, they said, of what fell on the roof) !

Derek

water rates are half what you suck, and half what you dump.

I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Derek Geldard wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:54:34 +0100, "Michael C"
wrote:

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?
So why don't you cancel your water contract and just use the water that
falls into your garden?

That doesn't work you still get billed for it.

We used to have an office without any water supply, we still had to
pay water rates. (Because, they said, of what fell on the roof) !

Derek

water rates are half what you suck, and half what you dump.

I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.
Do you have to pay sewerage rates if you have a septic tank?

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0100 Bazzer Smith wrote :
Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,

Not necessarily: if only I'd got mine metered (single person
household) I'd have paid less, but I never got round to it.

--
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk

mert1639 wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Derek Geldard wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:54:34 +0100, "Michael C"
wrote:

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...
and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

These criminals need to be tortured to death.

Is their a list of their identies anywhere?
Or are they in hiding?
So why don't you cancel your water contract and just use the water that
falls into your garden?
That doesn't work you still get billed for it.

We used to have an office without any water supply, we still had to
pay water rates. (Because, they said, of what fell on the roof) !

Derek

water rates are half what you suck, and half what you dump.

I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.
Do you have to pay sewerage rates if you have a septic tank?


No. Or at leasst there is a reduction.

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0100 Bazzer Smith wrote :
Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,

Not necessarily: if only I'd got mine metered (single person
household) I'd have paid less, but I never got round to it.

I had a meter put in when I moved to my house 10 years ago. Since then
I've gone from single person household to two people, to two adults plus
baby in cotton nappies, to two adults and a child - and in all that time
our water bill's been cheaper than rates would have been. It's well
worth doing, imho.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:10 +0100, Amethyst Deceiver
wrote the following to uk.misc:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0100 Bazzer Smith wrote :
Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,

Not necessarily: if only I'd got mine metered (single person
household) I'd have paid less, but I never got round to it.

I had a meter put in when I moved to my house 10 years ago. Since then
I've gone from single person household to two people, to two adults plus
baby in cotton nappies, to two adults and a child - and in all that time
our water bill's been cheaper than rates would have been. It's well
worth doing, imho.

Watch out for shared supplies though. It isn't always practical to fit the
meter inside the house and a fair number of older terraced houses
(including mine) have water supplies that separate *after* the main
stopcock. At my last place the meter was shared with the family of 4 living
next door. They were paying rates and I was paying for a meter. Got a bit
expensive (nearly £90/month at one point) until I wrote to Yorkshire Water
and asked them to investigate just before I moved out.

mh.
--
http://www.nukesoft.co.uk
http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk

From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid.

Huge wrote:

Small correction necessary.

Essentially I think we're
betweem a rock and hard place.
^Northern

Huge wrote:

On 2008-08-12, mert1639 wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...


I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.
Do you have to pay sewerage rates if you have a septic tank?

No.

You used to. *And* pay to have the tank emptied. But that stopped some years
ago.

One does however have to pay an extraction licence if one takes water
from a borehole. Otherwise I'd be doing it since we have a good chalk
acquifer available.

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:47:28 +0100, Frank Erskine
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:02:12 +0100, "Gaz" wrote:

Remember how we used to treat water and sewage before privatisation?

It's always been private around here.

--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland

The Sunderland and Shields water company was set up after the cholera
epedemics in the 19thC. They were owned by the local authorities in
the area as limited companies. So private except they were owned by
the local ratepayers. Ted Heath nationalised them in the 70s when they
were incorporated into the northumbrian water authority then Thatcher
completed the theft by selling them to private buyers.

Steve Firth wrote:
Huge wrote:

On 2008-08-12, mert1639 wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.
Do you have to pay sewerage rates if you have a septic tank?
No.

You used to. *And* pay to have the tank emptied. But that stopped some years
ago.

One does however have to pay an extraction licence if one takes water
from a borehole. Otherwise I'd be doing it since we have a good chalk
acquifer available.
The stupidity is that when the water companies break the law they are
fined. This then generates higher water rates, so the consumer who is
being "protected" pays. What utter nonsense. The directors and managers
should be fined, after all it was they who committed the offence, as
part of the punishment their salaries/re numerations should be frozen
for five years. Oh dear, that's not right we would get no decent
management to join these companies!

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0100 Bazzer Smith wrote :
Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,

Not necessarily: if only I'd got mine metered (single person
household) I'd have paid less, but I never got round to it.

I had a meter put in when I moved to my house 10 years ago. Since then
I've gone from single person household to two people, to two adults plus
baby in cotton nappies, to two adults and a child - and in all that time
our water bill's been cheaper than rates would have been. It's well
worth doing, imho.


Tight b*stard.

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

"Gaz" wrote in message
...

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

"johannes" wrote in message
...


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found,

err..it falls out of the sky, haven't you noticed?

cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored.

Water 'stores' itself, ever seen a lake?

Pipes have dropped in prices dramitically.
No new pipes in our city for the last 200 years,

Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches,

Oh they clean the sea do they?
Funny how I have never seen them doing this work.

for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea,


No it is sold as fertilizer. DO I get paid for the **** I provide - no.

it all has to be treated.

The seas around us have never been cleaner since the industrial
revolution, and neither have the rivers and waterways around the uk. The
vast bulk of this improvement is caused by the changes in the way water
is managed.

No thats just where you are dead wrong.
The water is cleaner but it is not down to the water companies.
Ever seen a water company boat on you local river scrubbing the water?
No you fecking have not because they don't do it.

The reason why the water is cleaner is gue to anti-polution laws.
Firms can't just dump their **** in the local river any more.
Same goes for the quality of the rain, we don;t get acid rain anymore,
the rain that falls in my gutter is good enough to drink, better than the
****
from my water company.


The water companies were essential to the implementation of the anti
polution (sic) laws, and the vast improvements we have seen to our
environment.

Gaz

"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2008-08-11, johannes wrote:


Bazzer Smith wrote:

and execute the water companies executives.
These criminals have incrceased the price of water faster than
the price of energy despite it falling out of the air.

Untrue. Water has to be found, cleaned up to an increasingly high
standard, piped, pumped and stored. Water companies are also responsible
for clean bathing water at beaches, for removing and treating sewage;
the sewage is longer flushed out in the sea, it all has to be treated.
Look it up instead of saying that it just comes out of the sky.

The water companies are also having to make up for decades of chronic
underfunding while they were State owned. Essentially, we got stitched up
by the
State who exported the problem to the private sector.


To counter balance that however, the water companies got massive
infrastructure and capital assets for a fraction of the real costs.

Gaz

"Sam Nelson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Huge writes:
The water companies are also having to make up for decades of chronic
underfunding while they were State owned. Essentially, we got stitched up
by the State who exported the problem to the private sector.

This strategy is now being reused by large financial institutions who are
busy exporting their problems back to the state.
--
SAm.

Yes, its called 'PFI', ironically, of course, designed to do the opposite.

Gaz

The water companies were essential to the implementation of the anti
polution (sic) laws, and the vast improvements we have seen to our
environment.

That is complete ********. They they had nothing to do with the
laws, it was government anti polution laws which made the difference
and the water companies benefietef frmo the clearner water so their costs
should have dropped *dramatically*.



Gaz

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

The water companies were essential to the implementation of the anti
polution (sic) laws, and the vast improvements we have seen to our
environment.

That is complete ********. They they had nothing to do with the
laws, it was government anti polution laws which made the difference
and the water companies benefietef frmo the clearner water so their costs
should have dropped *dramatically*.


It's like banging my head against a brick wall.

Gaz




Gaz

"Gaz" wrote in message
...

"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message
...

The water companies were essential to the implementation of the anti
polution (sic) laws, and the vast improvements we have seen to our
environment.

That is complete ********. They they had nothing to do with the
laws, it was government anti polution laws which made the difference
and the water companies benefietef frmo the clearner water so their costs
should have dropped *dramatically*.


It's like banging my head against a brick wall.

No, it like talking crap, which what you are doing.


Gaz




Gaz

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:14:20 +0100, Broadback wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Huge wrote:

On 2008-08-12, mert1639 wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

I THINK if you use a borehole and your own sewage treatment you dont pay
rates at all.
Do you have to pay sewerage rates if you have a septic tank?
No.

You used to. *And* pay to have the tank emptied. But that stopped some years
ago.

One does however have to pay an extraction licence if one takes water
from a borehole. Otherwise I'd be doing it since we have a good chalk
acquifer available.
The stupidity is that when the water companies break the law they are
fined. This then generates higher water rates, so the consumer who is
being "protected" pays. What utter nonsense. The directors and managers
should be fined, after all it was they who committed the offence, as
part of the punishment their salaries/re numerations should be frozen
for five years. Oh dear, that's not right we would get no decent
management to join these companies!

No change there, then.

--

Peter

I'm an alien
email: home at peteward dot gotadsl dot co dot uk
I think his portrayal of zombie lust and carnal desires is by far the most sensitive of the genre.
- N Jill Marsh

In article ,
says...

"Amethyst Deceiver" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:26 +0100 Bazzer Smith wrote :
Yes and as it is metered the more they supply the more money they make,

Not necessarily: if only I'd got mine metered (single person
household) I'd have paid less, but I never got round to it.

I had a meter put in when I moved to my house 10 years ago. Since then
I've gone from single person household to two people, to two adults plus
baby in cotton nappies, to two adults and a child - and in all that time
our water bill's been cheaper than rates would have been. It's well
worth doing, imho.


Tight b*stard.

1. Learn to spell. If you want to swear, have the balls to do so rather
than bowdlerising yourself.
2. Make up your mind.