Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:33:07 +0100, wrote:

Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

Does your water come from variable sources?

Ours is sometimes borehole and others canal water. The bore hole water
is full of chemicals that stain and can result in more cleaning. Is
there any iron in it?

In article ,
writes:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

Rusty washer or similar got washed into the water channel?
Might be able to get it out buy standing the pan on its back
and poking a piece of wire through the holes.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

wrote in message

Any other sugegstions ??

This is probably a factory flaw in the enamel? which you will get the brown
stain coming back time and time again and only a replacement will suffice.
Probably why this was changed in the first place.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.


Oops ...******** ...LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_8940.jpg

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:40:43 +0100, EricP
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:33:07 +0100, wrote:

Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

Does your water come from variable sources?

Ours is sometimes borehole and others canal water. The bore hole water
is full of chemicals that stain and can result in more cleaning. Is
there any iron in it?

No.straight off the mains .

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??
You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.


Oops ...******** ...LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_8940.jpg

How about one a bit less in close-up? I can't work out what on earth I'm
looking at!

David

On 28 Jul 2008 21:45:37 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
writes:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

Rusty washer or similar got washed into the water channel?
Might be able to get it out buy standing the pan on its back
and poking a piece of wire through the holes.

I guess that's a possibility . At this moment in time I can't be arsed
taking it all apart...I'll maybe try my silicone plug idea first .

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:26:44 +0100, Lobster
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??
You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.


Oops ...******** ...LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_8940.jpg

How about one a bit less in close-up? I can't work out what on earth I'm
looking at!

David

If you stand in front of the toilet as tho' you were having a ****
what you see is looking down ..you have the rim at the back of the
bowl at the top of the pic .then the brown mark and that leads down to
the water which is at the bottom of the pic . I didn't think it was
that confusing ...lol

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it
had a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the
chip didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at
the back of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the
cistern is all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon
but it is clear of the water and anyway appears made of a non
rusting metal .I'm confused what is causing this brown mark .It can
be removed by hard scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any
sign of water running down after the inlet closes although the mark
is immediately below one of the holes under the rim where water
flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.


Oops ...******** ...LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_8940.jpg

I'd say there is something made of steel in there, maybe an old screw or
washer and it is slowly rusting away, so blocking up the hole will only send
the rusty water down a different one.

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:26:44 +0100, Lobster
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:39:12 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

wrote:
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??
You could meet us halfway by actually posting the picture.

Oops ...******** ...LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...t/IMG_8940.jpg
How about one a bit less in close-up? I can't work out what on earth I'm
looking at!

David

If you stand in front of the toilet as tho' you were having a ****
what you see is looking down ..you have the rim at the back of the
bowl at the top of the pic .then the brown mark and that leads down to
the water which is at the bottom of the pic . I didn't think it was
that confusing ...lol

OK, got it! :-)

Yes, I'm going with the suggestion of a bit of rusty metal stuck
somewhere just upstream of the hole. I wonder if a cable/pipe detector
would find anything if waved over the porcelain just there?

David

2p:

The rim of our toilet bowl is hollow, with holes pierced in it all the
way round. (I only discovered this by brushing it extra carefully one
day -- the hollow rim and holes are of course invisible, being upside
down to the normal view.)

What I'm getting at is that there _may_ be something stuck inside the
rim of the bowl itself, i.e. not upstream.

That's my 2p.

john

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:53:53 +0100, jal wrote:

2p:

The rim of our toilet bowl is hollow, with holes pierced in it all the
way round. (I only discovered this by brushing it extra carefully one
day -- the hollow rim and holes are of course invisible, being upside
down to the normal view.)

What I'm getting at is that there _may_ be something stuck inside the
rim of the bowl itself, i.e. not upstream.

That's my 2p.

john

Yeah...mine is designed that way as well..I tried poking a wire up but
couldn't detect anything and also looked using a small mirror but
again no sign of anything .

wrote in message
...
Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from
Freecycle .It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had
a slight chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip
didn't matter . Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back
of the bowl ( see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is
all plastic except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear
of the water and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm
confused what is causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard
scouring but comes back again .I cannot see any sign of water running
down after the inlet closes although the mark is immediately below one
of the holes under the rim where water flows in to the bowl.
All I can think of is putting silicone up in to that particular hole
to seal it off. There are plenty others round the rim to do what is
needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??
Had a loo that did this once and eventually after taking it apart and
getting at it from behind a large very rusty bolt was extracted. Looked like
the bolt used to hold the cistern on a close coupled pan.

Most of rust mark removed using acid and rest disappeared after a while.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:33:07 +0100, NOSPAMnet wrote:

Months ago I replaced my toilet bowl with one that I got from Freecycle
.It had been replaced by a tradesman for a couple as it had a slight
chip on it but it was newer than my other one so the chip didn't matter
. Since then it has exhibited a brown streak at the back of the bowl (
see picture) . The interior workings of the cistern is all plastic
except for the hook that lifts the syphon but it is clear of the water
and anyway appears made of a non rusting metal .I'm confused what is
causing this brown mark .It can be removed by hard scouring but comes
back again .I cannot see any sign of water running down after the inlet
closes although the mark is immediately below one of the holes under the
rim where water flows in to the bowl. All I can think of is putting
silicone up in to that particular hole to seal it off. There are plenty
others round the rim to do what is needed when flushed .

Any other sugegstions ??

If this is a close coupled WC then I'd reckon there is a small leak from
the around the syphon which is rusting the coupling bracket (galvanised
steel) and then the rusty water is dripping into the pan inlet.

Failing that something (else) made of steel is in the water.


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
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