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Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood
box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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wrote in message ... Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen B&Q,ect These will be by the wood beading section?as for corners miter the ends of the plastic. |
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"George" wrote in message B&Q,ect These will be by the wood beading section?as for corners miter the ends of the plastic. Or is that Mitre. :-P |
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Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen You want te stuff that the music business uses for flightcases and equipment boxes..somewhere in Kent. Couldn't find them,but check here http://www.terralec.co.uk/ |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 10:59:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen You want te stuff that the music business uses for flightcases and equipment boxes..somewhere in Kent. Couldn't find them,but check here http://www.terralec.co.uk/ Maplin do these things too. Have a look in the cabinet hardware section on the website. -- .. Pete Lynch I have learned from my mistakes and .. Marlow ... I am sure I can repeat them exactly .. www.pete-lynch.com --- Peter Cooke. |
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On 18 May, 09:26, "George" wrote:
wrote in message ... Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen B&Q,ect These will be by the wood beading section?as for corners miter the ends of the plastic. Thanks, I just popped over to see what B&Q had and although there are varous size angled section stuff in plastic and aluminium, they seem too more useful for covering edges rather than joining them, although this may do at a pinch. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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On 18 May, 09:17, "
wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Corners come from any music / DJ equipment shop, or from Maplin (who list them, but don't seem to carry them in stock in the shops any more) For strip, then I'd look at aluminium for strength. Otherwise just round the edge of your plywood to avoid catching the sharp edge, maybe cover it with cabinet cloth. A biscuit jointer (they're cheap these days) is the quickest and easiest way to make plywood boxes. A simple router with a roundover cutter does the edges nicely too. |
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On 18 May, 10:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen You want te stuff that the music business uses for flightcases and equipment boxes..somewhere in Kent. Yes, that sort of stuff would be very useful.These cases usually have corner pieces too. I bought a small tool case from Wickes similar to this a while ago. The only trouble is, it's heavy even with nothing in the case. lightness combined with strengh would be the ideal for my current project. Couldn't find them,but check here http://www.terralec.co.uk/ Thanks for that. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? A model (railway, aircraft, boat) type shop. The would probably have alloy angle too which might do what you need. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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On 18 May, 11:13, Peter Lynch wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 10:59:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen You want te stuff that the music business uses for flightcases and equipment boxes..somewhere in Kent. Couldn't find them,but check here http://www.terralec.co.uk/ Maplin do these things too. Have a look in the cabinet hardware section on the website. -- . Pete Lynch I have learned from my mistakes and . Marlow ... I am sure I can repeat them exactly .www.pete-lynch.com --- Peter Cooke. Thanks, I looked and didn't see any of the long extrusions there but there are some nice 3 edge corner pieces that might come in handy. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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On 18 May, 11:51, Harry Bloomfield
wrote: After serious thinking wrote : Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? A model (railway, aircraft, boat) type shop. The would probably have alloy angle too which might do what you need. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk Ta, I'll go and have a look in the Yellow Pages. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
After serious thinking wrote : Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? A model (railway, aircraft, boat) type shop. The would probably have alloy angle too which might do what you need. All at amusing prices. B&Q sell both the plastic and the alloy angle, also at amusing prices. If such usage is non-trivial then it's worth looking at trade suppliers. |
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On 18 May, 12:42, Lobster wrote:
wrote: On 18 May, 09:26, "George" wrote: wrote in message ... Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen B&Q,ect These will be by the wood beading section?as for corners miter the ends of the plastic. Thanks, I just popped over to see what B&Q had and although there are varous size angled section stuff in plastic and aluminium, they seem too more useful for covering edges rather than joining them, although this may do at a pinch. I can't think of any fittings for *joining* edges, rather than protecting them, that you'd fit externally; normally these would be fitted to the internal corner: there are loads of different types of those available. David The stuff Cicero mentioned and linked to seems close. https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 He does say that this may not be strong enough though. Maybe if the inner leaves were deeper it would give more surface area to glue to. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:11 -0700, wrote:
On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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"Cicero" wrote in message news ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Mirror dinghies were like that. Never mind that though, I saw an article on bamboo bikes and want to make one. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:56:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
"Cicero" wrote in message news ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Mirror dinghies were like that. Never mind that though, I saw an article on bamboo bikes and want to make one. ================================== I didn't know about the dinghies, and I didn't know if you were serious about bamboo bikes, but according to Google it's true. Scientists are trying to produce sustainable bikes for African rural areas. I think they would get quicker results by dredging our local canals for discarded bikes and sending them for use in Africa. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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On 18 May, 13:10, Cicero wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:11 -0700, wrote: On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That method would probably produce some pretty strong joints. Lightness and clean lines are what I need to produce here. What the box is intended to be is a 4' tall model of a tower case computer with all the main outward details, like CD drive, floppy drive etc.. I want the top lidded though, so it can be opened to store and access various items. I did consider aluminium sheet but that would be quite weighty if thick enough to be adequately rigid, especially the embossed stuff. I lifted a sheet at B&Q today and it was surprisingly heavy, compared with what I'm hoping for. -- Regards, Dick Treen -- |
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On May 18, 3:28 pm, "
wrote: On 18 May, 13:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:11 -0700, wrote: On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That method would probably produce some pretty strong joints. Lightness and clean lines are what I need to produce here. What the box is intended to be is a 4' tall model of a tower case computer with all the main outward details, like CD drive, floppy drive etc.. I want the top lidded though, so it can be opened to store and access various items. I did consider aluminium sheet but that would be quite weighty if thick enough to be adequately rigid, especially the embossed stuff. I lifted a sheet at B&Q today and it was surprisingly heavy, compared with what I'm hoping for. -- Regards, Dick Treen -- If 12mm ply is suitable, I'd use the joining strips from bathroom wall panels http://www.multipanel.co.uk/productlist.asp?cat=64 The panelling is 11mm, so 12mm would fit with a bit of sanding. The profiles are aluminium in 3m lengths at about £10 per length. A |
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"Cicero" wrote in message news On Sun, 18 May 2008 14:56:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote: "Cicero" wrote in message news ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Mirror dinghies were like that. Never mind that though, I saw an article on bamboo bikes and want to make one. ================================== I didn't know about the dinghies, and I didn't know if you were serious about bamboo bikes, but according to Google it's true. Scientists are trying to produce sustainable bikes for African rural areas. I think they would get quicker results by dredging our local canals for discarded bikes and sending them for use in Africa. Its true, I really do intend to try it. I have a rusty old bike that I can take the mechanics off with an angle grinder, I am waiting for my bamboo to grow. |
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On 18 May, 15:42, "
wrote: On May 18, 3:28 pm, " wrote: On 18 May, 13:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:11 -0700, wrote: On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That method would probably produce some pretty strong joints. Lightness and clean lines are what I need to produce here. What the box is intended to be is a 4' tall model of a tower case computer with all the main outward details, like CD drive, floppy drive etc.. I want the top lidded though, so it can be opened to store and access various items. I did consider aluminium sheet but that would be quite weighty if thick enough to be adequately rigid, especially the embossed stuff. I lifted a sheet at B&Q today and it was surprisingly heavy, compared with what I'm hoping for. -- Regards, Dick Treen -- If 12mm ply is suitable, I'd use the joining strips from bathroom wall panelshttp://www.multipanel.co.uk/productlist.asp?cat=64 The panelling is 11mm, so 12mm would fit with a bit of sanding. The profiles are aluminium in 3m lengths at about £10 per length. A The type B corner looks to be just the thing. It would be better if it was smaller in section to hold thinner ply but I could use packing pieces with the thinner ply. -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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On May 18, 4:22 pm, "
wrote: On 18 May, 15:42, " wrote: On May 18, 3:28 pm, " wrote: On 18 May, 13:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:11 -0700, wrote: On 18 May, 10:10, Cicero wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:17:32 -0700, wrote: Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? ================================== The most likely source is 'plastic extrusions' in your local Yellow Pages, which will produce something like this: https://secure.mkmplastics.com/products.php/cat/12 Although these extrusions are readily available I don't think they're really intended for the kind of job you have in mind (box construction) because of the difficulty of getting satisfactory fixings although an adhesive might work for light use. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That looks to be very close to what I need, thanks. Maybe some square section timber with rabbets to allow for the plastic, could be glued to the inside for strengthening purposes. Either that or a similar section extrusion as the plastic but in aluminium. ================================== If this is to be a 'labour of love' then you might consider making your own from fibreglass. I once saw a plywood canoe made by stitching the plywood sections together with thick copper wire. The joints in the plywood were then covered with fibreglass strips and resin and the finished job was sanded down leaving barely a trace of the copper stitching wire. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== That method would probably produce some pretty strong joints. Lightness and clean lines are what I need to produce here. What the box is intended to be is a 4' tall model of a tower case computer with all the main outward details, like CD drive, floppy drive etc.. I want the top lidded though, so it can be opened to store and access various items. I did consider aluminium sheet but that would be quite weighty if thick enough to be adequately rigid, especially the embossed stuff. I lifted a sheet at B&Q today and it was surprisingly heavy, compared with what I'm hoping for. -- Regards, Dick Treen -- If 12mm ply is suitable, I'd use the joining strips from bathroom wall panelshttp://www.multipanel.co.uk/productlist.asp?cat=64 The panelling is 11mm, so 12mm would fit with a bit of sanding. The profiles are aluminium in 3m lengths at about £10 per length. A The type B corner looks to be just the thing. It would be better if it was smaller in section to hold thinner ply but I could use packing pieces with the thinner ply. -- Regards, Dick Treen http://multipanel.co.uk/products.asp?cat=57&hierarchy=0 The tilepanel is only 3mm thick, so you could use the profiles for that and make the thing from 4mm ply. Available from bathroom showrooms or plumbers' merchants. A |
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On 19 May, 11:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
wrote: On 18 May, 09:26, "George" wrote: wrote in message ... Hi, I know there are often several ways to do anything and my plywood box is no exception. What I'm trying to find is some sort of tough plastic strip-like components that can be used to both join and protect the edges of the sheets of ply, where they meet at right- angles. Also, if possible corner pieces too. Can anyone tell me where I can get plastic parts like this? -- Regards, Dick Treen B&Q,ect These will be by the wood beading section?as for corners miter the ends of the plastic. Thanks, I just popped over to see what B&Q had and although there are varous size angled section stuff in plastic and aluminium, they seem too more useful for covering edges rather than joining them, although this may do at a pinch. -- Regards, Dick Treen What we sused to do was glue up the (coated) ply, put ally angle over it,drill through and pop rivet, add corners with screws, and line the inside with foam. This, more or less, was always going to be an option and maybe it would be adequate. It's just that in my mind's eye I can see the perfect stuff. I can imagine it but I can't extrude it. :-) -- Regards, Dick Treen |
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