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High Temp Epoxy Glue/Sealant info please
I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant.
It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C. The application I'm using it for, is placing a s/steel sheathed K type thermocouple into a coffee portafilter, similar to this one made in the States. http://tinyurl.com/2v6ghv The epoxy (or something similar) doesn't have to be food-safe, as I'm using a spare portafilter, solely for occasional temperature measurement, thanks. Bertie -- Links to some online UK coffee bean and machine suppliers:- http://www.geocities.com/cumberpach/ |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant. It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C... Araldite 2015 is rated to 120C. Some of the heat assisted cure epoxies probably go higher than that. Colin Bignell |
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Bertie Doe wrote:
I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant. It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C. The application I'm using it for, is placing a s/steel sheathed K type thermocouple into a coffee portafilter, similar to this one made in the States. http://tinyurl.com/2v6ghv The epoxy (or something similar) doesn't have to be food-safe, as I'm using a spare portafilter, solely for occasional temperature measurement, thanks. Bertie Have look at high temperature silicones. I think the glass doors in some oven are held in with this stuff. Maybe RS carry something? RSWWW.com Bob |
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Bertie Doe wrote:
I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant. It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C. The application I'm using it for, is placing a s/steel sheathed K type thermocouple into a coffee portafilter, similar to this one made in the States. http://tinyurl.com/2v6ghv The epoxy (or something similar) doesn't have to be food-safe, as I'm using a spare portafilter, solely for occasional temperature measurement, thanks. High temperature silicone, such as: http://www.toolstation.com/search.ht...gh+temperature -- Grunff Radioactive Keyrings! http://www.shinyshack.com/product.php?prid=211713 |
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nightjar wrote:
"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant. It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C... Araldite 2015 is rated to 120C. Some of the heat assisted cure epoxies probably go higher than that. Colin Bignell Beware of these temp ratings. IME epoxy with highish temp rating was utterly useless when subjected to boiling water. It may have survived, but only as a soft squishy useless mess. NT |
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wrote in message ... nightjar wrote: "Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a high temp 90C epoxy sealant. It will also be subject to water pressure of 130 psi. Araldite Precision comes in a handy size of 2 x 15ml tubes, but it's max heat resistance is only 65C... Araldite 2015 is rated to 120C. Some of the heat assisted cure epoxies probably go higher than that. Colin Bignell Beware of these temp ratings. IME epoxy with highish temp rating was utterly useless when subjected to boiling water. It may have survived, but only as a soft squishy useless mess. We used a room temperature setting Araldite rated at 150C for assembling medical devices and it was perfectly happy being autoclaved in steam at 135C. However, the Araldite range has been renamed since then and I don't know which one is the current equivalent. Colin Bignell |
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"nightjar .me.uk" wrote in message Araldite 2015 is rated to 120C. Some of the heat assisted cure epoxies probably go higher than that. Colin Bignell Beware of these temp ratings. IME epoxy with highish temp rating was utterly useless when subjected to boiling water. It may have survived, but only as a soft squishy useless mess. We used a room temperature setting Araldite rated at 150C for assembling medical devices and it was perfectly happy being autoclaved in steam at 135C. However, the Araldite range has been renamed since then and I don't know which one is the current equivalent. Colin Bignell Meow, yep I didn't read the instructions on the Araldite 65 and it's a mess. Thanks Colin, if I could track down the rebadged Araldite 150C Grunff" High temperature silicone, such as: http://www.toolstation.com/search.ht...gh+temperature Grunff Thanks Bob and Grunff, I hadn't given silicone a thought, assuming the rubber wouldn't stand up to 135 psi. That's a handy link Grunff, the Galva Mate Grey looks like it may do the job. Bertie |
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:44:09 GMT, "Bertie Doe"
wrote: "nightjar .me.uk" wrote in message Araldite 2015 is rated to 120C. Some of the heat assisted cure epoxies probably go higher than that. Colin Bignell Beware of these temp ratings. IME epoxy with highish temp rating was utterly useless when subjected to boiling water. It may have survived, but only as a soft squishy useless mess. We used a room temperature setting Araldite rated at 150C for assembling medical devices and it was perfectly happy being autoclaved in steam at 135C. However, the Araldite range has been renamed since then and I don't know which one is the current equivalent. Colin Bignell Meow, yep I didn't read the instructions on the Araldite 65 and it's a mess. Thanks Colin, if I could track down the rebadged Araldite 150C Grunff" High temperature silicone, such as: http://www.toolstation.com/search.ht...gh+temperature Grunff Thanks Bob and Grunff, I hadn't given silicone a thought, assuming the rubber wouldn't stand up to 135 psi. That's a handy link Grunff, the Galva Mate Grey looks like it may do the job. In case it's of any help, I filled a cracked Rayburn flue ( just above the air valve on top on the stove ) with JB Weld - it's still holding up after many years. I'd imagine the temperature of the flue at that point exceeds your requirements. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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"Stephen Howard" wrote in message Bertie Doe wrote Thanks Bob and Grunff, I hadn't given silicone a thought, assuming the rubber wouldn't stand up to 135 psi. That's a handy link Grunff, the Galva Mate Grey looks like it may do the job. In case it's of any help, I filled a cracked Rayburn flue ( just above the air valve on top on the stove ) with JB Weld - it's still holding up after many years. I'd imagine the temperature of the flue at that point exceeds your requirements. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations I tracked down Araldite 2014 - 1 high temperature, but the cost is £11.44 + vat + £6 p&p and a minimum order of £30. Thanks Stephen, the JB Weld spec seems too good to be true, http://tinyurl.com/2x2u8y it may even have the edge over the silicone or the Galva Mate Grey. I'm being spoilt for choice. Bertie |
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:14:42 GMT, "Bertie Doe"
wrote: "Stephen Howard" wrote in message Bertie Doe wrote Thanks Bob and Grunff, I hadn't given silicone a thought, assuming the rubber wouldn't stand up to 135 psi. That's a handy link Grunff, the Galva Mate Grey looks like it may do the job. In case it's of any help, I filled a cracked Rayburn flue ( just above the air valve on top on the stove ) with JB Weld - it's still holding up after many years. I'd imagine the temperature of the flue at that point exceeds your requirements. I tracked down Araldite 2014 - 1 high temperature, but the cost is £11.44 + vat + £6 p&p and a minimum order of £30. Thanks Stephen, the JB Weld spec seems too good to be true, http://tinyurl.com/2x2u8y it may even have the edge over the silicone or the Galva Mate Grey. I'm being spoilt for choice. I've never read the JB specs - it was originally recommended to me by a car mechanic when I needed a cheap solution for a frostbitten Land Rover engine with a cracked engine block. Drained the core, dried the crack, shoved in a wadge of JB Weld and never had a problem with it for the rest of the engine's life. I should think it's cheap enough to be able to grab a packet and try it out on a test piece. Stick a dollop on an old bolt or something, let it cure for a couple of days then boil it up for a couple of hours to see what happens! Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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"Stephen Howard" wrote in message On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:14:42 GMT, "Bertie Doe" wrote: Thanks Stephen, the JB Weld spec seems too good to be true, http://tinyurl.com/2x2u8y it may even have the edge over the silicone or the Galva Mate Grey. I'm being spoilt for choice. I've never read the JB specs - it was originally recommended to me by a car mechanic when I needed a cheap solution for a frostbitten Land Rover engine with a cracked engine block. Drained the core, dried the crack, shoved in a wadge of JB Weld and never had a problem with it for the rest of the engine's life. I should think it's cheap enough to be able to grab a packet and try it out on a test piece. Stick a dollop on an old bolt or something, let it cure for a couple of days then boil it up for a couple of hours to see what happens! Regards, Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Thanks again Stephen. I ordered the 'marine' version of JB Weld. Looking at the following specs 500F (260C) and waterproof, it should do the job. http://jbweld.net/products/marine.php Bertie -- Links to some online UK coffee bean and machine suppliers:- http://www.geocities.com/cumberpach/ |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message "Stephen Howard" wrote in message On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:14:42 GMT, "Bertie Doe" wrote: Thanks Stephen, the JB Weld spec seems too good to be true, http://tinyurl.com/2x2u8y it may even have the edge over the silicone or the Galva Mate Grey. I'm being spoilt for choice. I've never read the JB specs - it was originally recommended to me by a car mechanic when I needed a cheap solution for a frostbitten Land Rover engine with a cracked engine block. Drained the core, dried the crack, shoved in a wadge of JB Weld and never had a problem with it for the rest of the engine's life. I should think it's cheap enough to be able to grab a packet and try it out on a test piece. Stick a dollop on an old bolt or something, let it cure for a couple of days then boil it up for a couple of hours to see what happens! Regards, Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Thanks again Stephen. I ordered the 'marine' version of JB Weld. Looking at the following specs 500F (260C) and waterproof, it should do the job. http://jbweld.net/products/marine.php Bertie -- Links to some online UK coffee bean and machine suppliers:- http://www.geocities.com/cumberpach/ Got apost on Coffeegeek http://tinyurl.com/6zg5x3 and it's possible that JBW won't bond to stainless. I've emailed JBW and I'll update. Bertie |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... "Bertie Doe" wrote in message "Stephen Howard" wrote in message On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:14:42 GMT, "Bertie Doe" wrote: Thanks Stephen, the JB Weld spec seems too good to be true, http://tinyurl.com/2x2u8y it may even have the edge over the silicone or the Galva Mate Grey. I'm being spoilt for choice. I've never read the JB specs - it was originally recommended to me by a car mechanic when I needed a cheap solution for a frostbitten Land Rover engine with a cracked engine block. Drained the core, dried the crack, shoved in a wadge of JB Weld and never had a problem with it for the rest of the engine's life. I should think it's cheap enough to be able to grab a packet and try it out on a test piece. Stick a dollop on an old bolt or something, let it cure for a couple of days then boil it up for a couple of hours to see what happens! Regards, Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Thanks again Stephen. I ordered the 'marine' version of JB Weld. Looking at the following specs 500F (260C) and waterproof, it should do the job. http://jbweld.net/products/marine.php Bertie -- Links to some online UK coffee bean and machine suppliers:- http://www.geocities.com/cumberpach/ Got apost on Coffeegeek http://tinyurl.com/6zg5x3 and it's possible that JBW won't bond to stainless. I've emailed JBW and I'll update. Bertie Got a reply from JB Weld, confirming that it will bond to stainless. To play safe, I've roughened up all stainless surfaces with some fine Wet & Dry and it's looking good. I'll give it another 12 hours to cure and test tomorrow. Bertie |
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