It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m high
and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is stairs?
Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some smooth wood
I am stuck for ideas.

Cheers,
Rick

R D S presented the following explanation :
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m high
and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is stairs?
Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some smooth wood I
am stuck for ideas.

Cheers,
Rick

Lay planks or similar down, firmly fixed so they cannot move. Then buy
a good length of rope. Lash one end of rope around said object so it
cannot slip off. Your next trick is to find something sufficiently
strong at the top, to take the weight during the descent - length of 3
x 3 across a door opening or window opening, tree outside, or similar.
If it is a long distance away use a second rope to form a loop around
the object too pass the first rope through loose end of rope one goes
down in the basement with heavy person attached o slow the descent,
whilst 'a n other' gently guides it from above.

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"R D S" wrote in message
...
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m
high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some
smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

Cheers,
Rick



Grytpype-Thynne:
All in good time, laddy. Now first, will you sign this contract, in which
you guarantee to move the piano from one room to another for five pounds.

Seagoon:
Of course I'll sign. Have you any ink?

Grytpype-Thynne:
Here's a fresh bottle.

http://www.thegoonshow.net/scripts_s...apoleons_piano

--
Ron

In message , R D S
writes
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m high
and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is stairs?
Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some smooth wood
I am stuck for ideas.

That's how it's normally done

not too difficult if otched down step by step

if you want to slide it on runners, get some decent rope and probably
something to protect your equipment from the rope

Get the local morris dance side around and promise them free beer


http://www.codehot.co.uk/lyrics/abcd/bernardcribbins_rsf.htm


--
geoff

R D S wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

Cheers,
Rick

Some manner of winch?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170210232300

Si

R D S wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m high
and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is stairs?
Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some smooth wood
I am stuck for ideas.

See demo he
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzEBLa3PPk

hth
David

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
R D S presented the following explanation :
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

Cheers,
Rick

Lay planks or similar down, firmly fixed so they cannot move. Then buy
a good length of rope. Lash one end of rope around said object so it
cannot slip off. Your next trick is to find something sufficiently
strong at the top, to take the weight during the descent - length of 3
x 3 across a door opening or window opening, tree outside, or similar.
If it is a long distance away use a second rope to form a loop around
the object too pass the first rope through loose end of rope one goes
down in the basement with heavy person attached o slow the descent,
whilst 'a n other' gently guides it from above.

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.

Lobster wrote:
R D S wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

See demo he
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzEBLa3PPk


That's what I am worrying about, that said I like tea.

"R D S" wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.


Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers? Not only
would they have the necessary expertise, but in the unlikely event of
something going wrong, they would be insured.

On Apr 22, 8:58*pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m high
and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is stairs?
Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on some smooth wood
I am stuck for ideas.


is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

R

On Apr 23, 9:18*am, Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.

Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers?

"Hello, I'd like you to move a large heavy object into my Cellar"

"Is it a Piano?"

"Err, no"

Brrrrrrrr


MBQ

"Man at B&Q" wrote:

On Apr 23, 9:18*am, Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.

Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers?

"Hello, I'd like you to move a large heavy object into my Cellar"

"Is it a Piano?"

"Err, no"

Brrrrrrrr


Don't be daft. People don't tend to turn down work that falls within
their area of expertise, even if the object is not precisely a piano.

RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.


is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the floor if I
lunge all my weight at it.

Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.


Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers? Not only
would they have the necessary expertise, but in the unlikely event of
something going wrong, they would be insured.

Yes I have contacted 2.

One is coming to look at it last Tuesday, he is a little late, I have left
messages.

The other is going to ring me back some time last week.

On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? *Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the floor if I
lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

It's overdue a clean!

On 2008-04-23 11:55:27 +0100, "R D S" said:

wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

It's overdue a clean!

Could it be partly disassembled?

Are you an optician or an astronomer?

On Apr 23, 10:56*am, Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:





On Apr 23, 9:18*am, Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.

Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers?

"Hello, I'd like you to move a large heavy object into my Cellar"

"Is it a Piano?"

"Err, no"

Brrrrrrrr

Don't be daft. *People don't tend to turn down work that falls within
their area of expertise, even if the object is not precisely a piano.

Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?

MBQ

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:24:18 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"
wrote:



Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm

--
Frank Erskine

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-04-23 11:55:27 +0100, "R D S" said:

wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access
is stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it
down on some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether
it can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a
lightweight copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a
piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

It's overdue a clean!

Could it be partly disassembled?

Are you an optician or an astronomer?

Optician.

It could be made approx 20% lighter I reckon by removing a load of the
mechanics, I don't know if that would make it *much* easier to move though.

It's from when machines were made properly, I would only ever need to
replace it for aesthetics.

"Man at B&Q" wrote:

Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?


Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of
alarming people?

On Apr 23, 1:16*pm, Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:



Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?

Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of
alarming people?

I don't see anyone being alarmed by my questions.

MBQ

"Man at B&Q" wrote:

On Apr 23, 1:16*pm, Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:



Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?

Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of
alarming people?

I don't see anyone being alarmed by my questions.


Where did I suggest that you were even remotely successful?

if you used a winch to ease it down
is there anywhere to tie the winch
so the rope/steel cable would be straight?

"R D S" wrote in message
...
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m
high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

How not to do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0189LO5FyqM

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:480f1880@qaanaaq...
On 2008-04-23 11:55:27 +0100, "R D S" said:

wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

Could you get a 500W halogen bulb and put it inside?

"R D S" wrote:

Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Good luck should you need to get it back up the stairs lol

Don't worry, it's never coming back up, not in one piece anyway.


Have you considered using a specialist firm of piano movers? Not only
would they have the necessary expertise, but in the unlikely event of
something going wrong, they would be insured.

Yes I have contacted 2.

One is coming to look at it last Tuesday, he is a little late, I have left
messages.

The other is going to ring me back some time last week.


Have you tried Pickfords? They move all kinds of things.

Also, try a Google UK search on "equipment removals", or search online
Yellow Pages (yell.com) for "Removals - Business & Industrial" in your
area.

OG wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message
news:480f1880@qaanaaq...
On 2008-04-23 11:55:27 +0100, "R D S" said:

wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m
wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only
access is stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or
sliding it down on some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether
it can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a
lightweight copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a
piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

Could you get a 500W halogen bulb and put it inside?

Huh?

On Apr 23, 1:27*pm, Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:

On Apr 23, 1:16*pm, Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:

Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?

Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of
alarming people?

I don't see anyone being alarmed by my questions.

Where did I suggest that you were even remotely successful?

I didn't say you did.

My aim wasn't to alarm anyone, so my lack of success at doing so is a
positive outcome.

What positive outcome resulted from your reply?

MBQ

"R D S" wrote:

OG wrote:

Could you get a 500W halogen bulb and put it inside?

Huh?


To make it "lighter", presumably.

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
"R D S" wrote:

OG wrote:

Could you get a 500W halogen bulb and put it inside?

Huh?


To make it "lighter", presumably.


indeed

"R D S" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

It's overdue a clean!



Put it on a pallet with some wheels on ( lidl had some triangular boards
with wheels you could use two of last week).
Put some two by fours as tracks down the stairs and as a hinged ramp at the
top.
Attach a winch to the end of the hinged bit at the top.
Jack the top bit up until you can roll it down the track using the winch.
One man job. ;-)

Failing that cut a hole in the floor and lower it down before making good,
also a one man job.

In message , shaun
writes

"R D S" wrote in message
...
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

How not to do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0189LO5FyqM

keep up at the back ...

--
geoff

Bruce wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote:

Presumably they are insured for shifting pianos. Are they covered for
other stuff? Would a reputable company do a job knowing they are not
covered?


Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of
alarming people?

Do you participate in Usenet discussions with the primary aim of being a
complete ****?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

dennis@home wrote:


"R D S" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On 23 Apr, 11:43, "R D S" wrote:
RobertL wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:58 pm, "R D S" wrote:
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide,
1.5m high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

Weight is probably about 300kg.

How would you go about getting this into a basement, only access is
stairs? Short of recruiting a load of blokes or sliding it down on
some smooth wood I am stuck for ideas.

is it just a question of weight etc or are you uncertain whether it
can actually be fitten down the staiors? Why not make a lightweight
copy to check how to get it down there.

Merely weight.

I am about 17.5 stone and I can get it to slide stightly on the
floor if I lunge all my weight at it.

Would it be terribly impolite to ask what it is, if it isn't a piano?

Matt

It's a lens polishing machine.
http://www.optiglaze.co.uk/ebaypics/coburn506.jpg

It's overdue a clean!



Put it on a pallet with some wheels on ( lidl had some triangular boards
with wheels you could use two of last week).
Put some two by fours as tracks down the stairs and as a hinged ramp at
the top.
Attach a winch to the end of the hinged bit at the top.
Jack the top bit up until you can roll it down the track using the winch.
One man job. ;-)

Failing that cut a hole in the floor and lower it down before making
good, also a one man job.

I would recommend against wheels, for the downhill part anyway.
Friction is your friend at that point. To move across the floor to the
stairs you might need a winch, or one of those pallets with wheels, or
maybe just some slippery material (heavy plastic?), depending on what
sort of floor you have. If the stairs need protection you could get
some old carpet, run it down the stairs and attach the top firmly. Once
the thing is perched at the top of the stairs get a good rope or two on
it, with a turn around some solid anchor post. A little push and you're
on your way. You'll be surprised how much friction the rope generates,
controlling the descent will not be difficult. I recently lowered two
heavy pieces of furniture off the 2nd story balcony of my house using
two ropes in this manner.

shaun wrote:

"R D S" wrote in message
...
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m
high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

How not to do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0189LO5FyqM

As I mentioned, wheels are not a good idea ...

"Gib Bogle" wrote in message
...
shaun wrote:

"R D S" wrote in message
...
It isn't a piano but has a similar shape/profile, approx 1m wide, 1.5m
high and 0.8m at its deepest point.

How not to do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0189LO5FyqM

As I mentioned, wheels are not a good idea ...

There is no problem with wheels if you use them correctly.
If you are going to cock it up then skids aren't going to help.

Huge wrote:

On 2008-04-23, Bruce wrote:

Have you tried Pickfords? They move all kinds of things.

Mostly into their own pockets. I'd rather pile my possessions up into a
heap and burn them than entrust them to Pickfords.

Aaarrggghhhh don't get me started on them. I'd rather pile up the
workforce of Pickfords and burn them. "Your furniture will be placed in
our secure store overnight."

"Where is the mahogany sideboard, and the silverware?"

"We don't take responsibility for pilfering from our yard, sir."

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:56:25 +0100, Bruce wrote:

Don't be daft. People don't tend to turn down work that falls within
their area of expertise, even if the object is not precisely a piano.

I've tried this twice. First time, the piano shifters shifted the
optical bench happily and competently, despite it costing considerably
more than a piano (even the Devon piano)

Second time, in a different town, the piano people wouldn't touch a S/H
film editing desk that was of marginal value. So I shifted it myself,
using my engine crane. handy gadget that, but very rarely used for
engines.

Bruce wrote:
"R D S" wrote:

OG wrote:

Could you get a 500W halogen bulb and put it inside?

Huh?


To make it "lighter", presumably.

Christ!