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need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)

easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.

anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!
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On 26 Mar, 15:53, Staffbull wrote:
need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)

easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.

anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!


Can you have the pipe enter from above ? You would then not be agin'
the floo, even through the approach is from the wrong direction. You
may need an additional rodding eye.
Simon.

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need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)


It'll be 110 mm.

easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.

anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!


How deep is the manhole, and at what level is your new pipe? If you can
enter the chamber a couple of feet or so above invert level, you can then
take a pipe vertically downwards inside the chamber, with a spout at the
bottom discharging in the sewer flow direction. The original direction of
your new pipe doesn't then matter.
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Staffbull wrote:
need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)

easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.

anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!

I think the para you were looking for is 2.53 Part H.

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Staffbull wrote:
need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)

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anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!


I think the para you were looking for is 2.53 Part H.


Or even 2.14 of Approved Document H (2002).

To the OP; the drain can have slow bends on it, or have a rodding
point such as a roddable gully on the branch that can't be accessed
from the IC, and come into the main drain at up to 90°.

You say it's a 'main sewer'. Is it a public sewer? If so, you'll
need to contact the Sewerage Undertaker (usually your local Water
Company), who will usually want their own contractors to make any new
connections to the drain or manhole.
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Staffbull wrote:
need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)

easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.

anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!


Very unlikely to be a main sewer (though posible), it is more likely to be a
private drain serving several houses for which you and the others connected
are responsible.

Just to add to Hugo's comments.


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On 26 Mar, 22:40, "Clot" wrote:
Staffbull wrote:
need to connect to a manhole in the garden, main sewer runiing through
it, connecting using back inlet gulley and 100mm pipe (i think --- the
brown stuff)


easiest way of doing it would mean the pipe would enter from the
opposite direction of flow of the sewer, I seem to remember reading
this is a no no, but I cant find anyhting relating to it in the regs,
otherwise I'd need to place the gulley beyond the manhole and pipe the
gutter & sink outlets too it.


anyone know if its OK to do it against the flow? Mr BCO will be seeing
it eventually!!


Very unlikely to be a main sewer (though posible), it is more likely to be a
private drain serving several houses for which you and the others connected
are responsible.

Just to add to Hugo's comments.


yep, its a private drain, but serves the whole village, I have it
running through 120ft of our garden with 2 manholes, so have tapped
into the closest. I say tapped, it took an hour with a 5kg SDS to hack
a hole in the wall, only single red brick, jees they were hard!!
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yep, its a private drain, but serves the whole village,


Were any of the properties built before 1937? If so, it could be that
the drain is a de-facto public sewer.
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On 28 Mar, 20:45, Hugo Nebula abuse@localhost wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:51:05 -0700 (PDT), a particular chimpanzee,
Staffbull randomly hit the keyboard and
produced:

yep, its a private drain, but serves the whole village,


Were any of the properties built before 1937? *If so, it could be that
the drain is a de-facto public sewer.
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* "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this,
* *just how far from the pack have you strayed?"


Some of the cottages in the village are 300 years old, so yes!

its done now anyhoo, I decided on the longer route of placing it
"upstream"
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