I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and
it'll never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

On 24 Mar, 18:10, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

coat the top with anti-climb pant - they wont sit on it many more times

on 24/03/2008, Stuart Noble supposed :
Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of the
neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and putting
pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I can think of
is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch minimum
?)

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and it'll
never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

...and/or a bit of steel reinforcing along between top course and coping
stone.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Mar 24, 6:47 pm, Stuart Noble
wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and
it'll never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

That's the one :-}

coat the top with anti-climb pant - they wont sit on it many more times

It's the front wall of the house, so it'd look too messy (although the
tempation is strong with this one !)

"Colin Wilson" o.uk wrote
in message t...
coat the top with anti-climb pant - they wont sit on it many more times

It's the front wall of the house, so it'd look too messy (although the
tempation is strong with this one !)

My crime prevention officer told me that anti climb paint cannot (or is that
should not) be used lower than 8 feet from the ground.

Peter

My crime prevention officer told me that anti climb paint cannot (or is that
should not) be used lower than 8 feet from the ground.

FWIW my rear fence is greased up, and has trellis with barbed wire
sandwiched between it and the fence.

The fence happens to be entirely on my land, so if any little scrotes
happen to scratch themselves or smear grease all over their new
Tacchini tracksuit bottoms while trying to jump over, I fail to see
why I should be held responsible... :-p

I did toy with the idea of razor wire (and it still appeals*) but in
the meantime, I got a load of seeds for the nastiest scratchiest plant
i've come across in native britain and tossed them over the fence
(still technically our garden, which we fenced off "short", which
backs onto wasteland) and they appear to be doing quite well :-)

*but I know the requirements are much stronger for that

Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

Injected resin is plenty strong enough, assuming the stone is clean & sound.
I think 12mm is rather shallow for a railhead though - go for the full inch.

On 24/03/2008 21:09, Colin Wilson wrote:

(still technically our garden, which we fenced off "short", which
backs onto wasteland)

Make sure the O.S. don't come along and re-survey the boundaries to
where they see the fence.

My father came very close to losing a chunk of garden to a neighbour
that way. When he disputed it, the neighbour's deeds (which was a fairly
recent sale) showed the wrong boundary, and the O.S were reluctant to
use the boundary from my father's deeds from 40+ years ago, the
neighbour went to his grave still disputing it, thankfully when his
wife/son inherited it they gave up the claim.

On 2008-03-24 19:18:22 +0000, Colin Wilson
o.uk said:

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

That's the one :-}

I had a wall/fence project last summer where I was looking for strength
for two aspects.


There are brick pillars of approx 0.8m high spaced approx. 2m apart.
These were built on a concrete foundation into which vertical rebar
had been set, each pillar being hollow inside initially. After the
brick mortar was cured, the centres of the pillars were filled with
concrete.

Galvanised chains, painted black were to be used between the pillars.
Although there isn't a particular vandalism/children risk, I wanted the
chain sections to be able to take an adult standing on them without
giving way. Pairs of 8mm holes, about 80mm deep were drilled into
the sides of the pillars. THe holes were cleaned and studs were
inserted and bonded using mortar containing injection resin. The
plates for the chains were fitted and the chains attached. They
have been tested with two adults.

The second issue was cappings for the tops of the pillars. These are
made from Welsh slate 30mm thick, ordered, cut and finished to size.
I wanted to have a means of attaching them to the tops of the pillars
for keeps, so a simiar technique was devised. I asked the slate
supplier to drill two 10mm holes to a depth of 20mm in the back of each
slab. I fitted two 80mm x 8mm studs into the slabs with injection
resin. Holes to match were then drilled in the tops of the pillars.
Finally, the slabs were stuck in place with more resin. This doesn't
move either.


Given your project, I'd begin with small holes drilled with an SDS
drill through the copings - not too large a drill and not too fast to
avoid cracking the concrete. Work up to a size 2mm larger than a
stud and drill down into the wall.

Select railheads with a threaded underside or the ability to tap a
thread would be good. Clean out the holes in the copings/wall and
fit studs with injection resin. Later in the day, you can screw on
the railheads, using Loctite or perhaps resin without mortar.

That should bring tears to the kids eyes if they sit on them.....

Colin Wilson o.uk wrote
in message t...
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...

I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?

(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)

Well that's how replacement wall ties are fixed, so if it's the "right" type
of resin its quite strong.

(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)

Cheap houses in Florida these days,
and its not snowing like it is here ;(



-

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Burns
saying something like:

(still technically our garden, which we fenced off "short", which
backs onto wasteland)

Make sure the O.S. don't come along and re-survey the boundaries to
where they see the fence.

A simple post and wire fence on the actual boundary would suffice for
that.
--

Dave

Cheap houses in Florida these days,
and its not snowing like it is here ;(

Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!

Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!
Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

6 bed for $5,500 - MLS# 2432534 at the site above

"Bank owned-Needs work"

I could buy that *now* from my current account and still have change
in the bank !

Martin Bonner wrote:
On Mar 24, 6:47 pm, Stuart Noble
wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...
I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?
(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)
(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)
Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and
it'll never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?


And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Martin Bonner wrote:
On Mar 24, 6:47 pm, Stuart Noble
wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...
I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?
(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)
(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)
Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and
it'll never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?


And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.

My thoughts exactly.

On Mar 25, 1:32 pm, Stuart Noble
wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Martin Bonner wrote:
On Mar 24, 6:47 pm, Stuart Noble
wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
I've got a low wall with coping stone on the top, but the friends of
the neighbours' kid keep sitting on it...
I was toying with the idea of drilling a few holes in the top, and
putting pointed railheads in there, but they'd need securing - all I
can think of is resin, but having never used it, just how strong is
the stuff ?
(i.e. would 12mm in epoxy be enough, or should I look to do an inch
minimum ?)
(thinking about it, I really need to move out !)
Just sit the coping on a couple of big blobs of car body filler and
it'll never move again. Just make sure the surfaces are dust free

I think Mr Wilson is trying to fit pointed railheads to the coping (so
the kids can't sit on it), not fix the coping to the wall (so it
doesn't matter if the kids sit on it).

Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?

And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.

My thoughts exactly.

.... and mine!

That should bring tears to the kids eyes if they sit on them.....

Thanks for all that, just need to persuade the missus to let me do it
now ;-)

Colin Wilson was thinking very hard :
Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!
Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

6 bed for $5,500 - MLS# 2432534 at the site above

"Bank owned-Needs work"

I could buy that *now* from my current account and still have change
in the bank !

....and I could buy that 16x over from my current account with plenty of
change. I've just taken a look at what we could buy if we sold up here-
I didn't realise homes were quite so cheap in the US.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 2008-03-25 08:42:38 +0000, Colin Wilson
o.uk said:

Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!
Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

6 bed for $5,500 - MLS# 2432534 at the site above

"Bank owned-Needs work"

I could buy that *now* from my current account and still have change
in the bank !

Median household income is $25k.

2.5 stories (hmm... bet there are a few more than that)

Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather than
opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in the
process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over about 6
feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally 150
yards away) ?

....and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now - i've
lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and don't go
moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is considerably less
tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends, who
hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less chance
of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5 minutes all
day long.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from the
top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their ball all
the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the panels and put a
hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood us out.

So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would you be
happy to let it continue unabated ?

"Colin Wilson" o.uk wrote
in message t...
Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather than
opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in the
process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over about 6
feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally 150
yards away) ?

...and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now - i've
lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and don't go
moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is considerably less
tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends, who
hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less chance
of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5 minutes all
day long.

I'll come and park there. A little bit of razor wire on my ladder racks
sould sort the football.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from the
top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their ball all
the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the panels and put a
hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood us out.

So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would you be
happy to let it continue unabated ?

I would not be happy. I declared war against my next door neighbours who are
worse. I am getting closer to winning but it is expensive. An injuction to
keep them out of your garden is about £150 and you need to back this up with
evidence to prove that they have breached it.(He did on Thursday).

Even better would be good video proof of who damaged what and then phone the
police about the criminal damage.

Adam

Colin Wilson wrote:
Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather than
opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in the
process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over about 6
feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally 150
yards away) ?

...and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now - i've
lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and don't go
moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is considerably less
tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends, who
hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less chance
of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5 minutes all
day long.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from the
top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their ball all
the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the panels and put a
hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood us out.

So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would you be
happy to let it continue unabated ?

I think it is probably time for the 'nice' approach. LSD impregnated
Snickers, followed some hours later by an inflatable dinosaur in
fluorescent pink..

ARWadworth wrote:

"Colin Wilson" o.uk
wrote in message t...
Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather than
opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in the
process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over about 6
feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally 150
yards away) ?

...and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now - i've
lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and don't go
moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is considerably less
tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends, who
hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less chance
of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5 minutes all
day long.

I'll come and park there. A little bit of razor wire on my ladder racks
sould sort the football.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from the
top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their ball all
the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the panels and put a
hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood us out.

So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would you be
happy to let it continue unabated ?

I would not be happy. I declared war against my next door neighbours who
are worse. I am getting closer to winning but it is expensive. An
injuction to keep them out of your garden is about £150 and you need to
back this up with evidence to prove that they have breached it.(He did
on Thursday).

Even better would be good video proof of who damaged what and then phone
the police about the criminal damage.


********. You need to become more inventive than they are. The trick is
to make their lives a misery without it ever being apparent who is
behind it..

Start with a 500W near ultrasonic transmitter..that no oldster can
hear..run frequency shifted Barry Manilow songs through it. If that
doesn't make em puke, they deserve a medal.

Follow up with accidentally dropped valuables coated with strong
psychedelics. Once nicked, the punsihment fits the crime.

Buy a hoodie, and dark glases, and kidnap them and verbally abuse them
privatim et seriatim. Never leave a witness.

Drop an airbomb down their chimney at 3 a.m.

And immediately phone the police complaining about a 'disturbance and
gunshots next door'. Then so the same to their mates. The plod will
conclude its a gang feud. Hint. Fishing rods are useful in this context.

Construct a very powerful short wave transmitter that will fry the
electronics in their house. Or at least render it inoperative. Wot No
TV? My FSCKING IPODs gone funny..

Then when they move out, bury dead rats around the house, to deter
potential buyers. Offer a rock bottom price, buy the house, remove rats
and make a fat profit.

You know it makes sense. More sense than invoking a Higher Authority anyway.





Adam

On 2008-03-25 21:44:46 +0000, The Natural Philosopher said:

You know it makes sense. More sense than invoking a Higher Authority anyway.



So you're not proposing prayer then ;-)

Colin Wilson o.uk wrote
in message t...
Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!
Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

6 bed for $5,500 - MLS# 2432534 at the site above

"Bank owned-Needs work"

I could buy that *now* from my current account and still have change
in the bank !

but I think even Cleveland UK would be a nicer place to live then Cleveland
Ohio.
And It wasn't that long ago you could buy a complete street in Middlesbrough
for £2.5k ;(



-

Harry Bloomfield wrote in message
k...
Colin Wilson was thinking very hard :
Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!
Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

6 bed for $5,500 - MLS# 2432534 at the site above

"Bank owned-Needs work"

I could buy that *now* from my current account and still have change
in the bank !

...and I could buy that 16x over from my current account with plenty of
change. I've just taken a look at what we could buy if we sold up here-
I didn't realise homes were quite so cheap in the US.



They are at the moment even in the more upmarket parts of Florida in
comparison with the UK,
How long that will last............



-

Even better would be good video proof of who damaged what and then phone the
police about the criminal damage.

It's usually the cousin (?) of the neighbour, but AFAIK he's still
under the age of legal responsibility. And knows it.

And immediately phone the police complaining about a 'disturbance and
gunshots next door'.

I haven't heard gunshots there before, but the police are there often
enough as it is :-}

My crime prevention officer told me that anti climb paint cannot (or is
that should not) be used lower than 8 feet from the ground.


paint a white line on it
and if it gets smudged
paint it again
and again?

or grey so its not so noticeable on the stone,
but noticeable on poncy teen clothes?

but not pointed metal spikes

if you use kiddy water poster paint grey
then when your neighbours have moved
the paint will wash away with rain
and not poison the garden..

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:
Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather
than opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in
the process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over
about 6 feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally 150
yards away) ?

...and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now -
i've lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and
don't go moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is
considerably less tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends, who
hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less chance
of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5 minutes all
day long.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from the
top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their ball
all the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the panels and
put a hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood us out.

So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would you be
happy to let it continue unabated ?

I think it is probably time for the 'nice' approach. LSD impregnated
Snickers, followed some hours later by an inflatable dinosaur in
fluorescent pink..

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
ARWadworth wrote:

"Colin Wilson"
o.uk wrote in
message t...
Oh dear. What is the point of a wall that you can't sit on?
And I thought I was getting to be a GOM.
My thoughts exactly.
... and mine!

Besides having to ask what was meant by GOM (grumpy old man?), how
about:

* constantly using my driveway and barging through privets rather
than opening their own gate

* damaging the wall, both to the front, and one inside our driveway
between us and the neighbour the other side

* taking flying leaps into the hedge from said wall damaging it in
the process - it's crushed in patches by at least 12 inches over
about 6 feet now and looks a real mess

* using my driveway & car as a goalpost (there's a park literally
150 yards away) ?

...and i'm not too keen on the little phuckers throwing used condoms
into the garden either.

No, i'm not kidding, and it really is getting beyond a joke now -
i've lived here 19 years (them ~6 years), we've been patient and
don't go moaning constantly. The neighbour the other side is
considerably less tolerant !

The neighbours' kids aren't actually too bad, it's their friends,
who hang around even if the neighbours' kids aren't in.

If you'd like to come park outside ours, you're welcome - less
chance of them hitting my car / front door / windows every 4-5
minutes all day long.

I'll come and park there. A little bit of razor wire on my ladder
racks sould sort the football.

I won't go into depth on them repeatedly ripping off trellis from
the top of the fence to the rear so they can climb over for their
ball all the time, or the time when they kicked in one of the
panels and put a hosepipe through the dog flap and tried to flood
us out. So can I ask, would you be getting ****ed off by now, or would
you
be happy to let it continue unabated ?

I would not be happy. I declared war against my next door neighbours
who are worse. I am getting closer to winning but it is expensive. An
injuction to keep them out of your garden is about £150 and you need
to back this up with evidence to prove that they have breached
it.(He did on Thursday).

Even better would be good video proof of who damaged what and then
phone the police about the criminal damage.


********. You need to become more inventive than they are. The trick
is to make their lives a misery without it ever being apparent who is
behind it..

Start with a 500W near ultrasonic transmitter..that no oldster can
hear..run frequency shifted Barry Manilow songs through it. If that
doesn't make em puke, they deserve a medal.

Follow up with accidentally dropped valuables coated with strong
psychedelics. Once nicked, the punsihment fits the crime.

Buy a hoodie, and dark glases, and kidnap them and verbally abuse them
privatim et seriatim. Never leave a witness.

Drop an airbomb down their chimney at 3 a.m.

And immediately phone the police complaining about a 'disturbance and
gunshots next door'. Then so the same to their mates. The plod will
conclude its a gang feud. Hint. Fishing rods are useful in this
context.
Construct a very powerful short wave transmitter that will fry the
electronics in their house. Or at least render it inoperative. Wot No
TV? My FSCKING IPODs gone funny..

Then when they move out, bury dead rats around the house, to deter
potential buyers. Offer a rock bottom price, buy the house, remove
rats and make a fat profit.

You know it makes sense. More sense than invoking a Higher Authority
anyway.

Did you have to? I've got coffee all over the monitor now!

Colin Wilson wrote:
Cheap houses in Florida these days,
and its not snowing like it is here ;(

Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!

Don't believe me ? - try searching http://www.howardhanna.com !

That's absolutely barking - really nice houses for the price of a car.

I think it is probably time for the 'nice' approach. LSD impregnated
Snickers, followed some hours later by an inflatable dinosaur in
fluorescent pink..


Yeah, might do the trick, but I think i'd prefer to eat a mars bar
personally :-p

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Colin Wilson
o.uk saying something
like:

Not as nice an area, but have you seen the prices in Cleveland lately?
- you can pick up loads for $10,000 !!!!

I saw that on the telly a couple of weeks ago. Cleveland or somewhere
near it is the repossession capital of America. A lot of those cheap
houses are in areas I wouldn't want to live in anyway.
--

Dave