Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

On 25 Nov, 11:02, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Rob

On 25 Nov, 11:53, robgraham wrote:
On 25 Nov, 11:02, "Arthur2" wrote:

Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Rob

And cleans off nicely with a damp cloth. Or if there are big beads to
clean off they can go back in the pot with no wastage.
Little or no clamping time - really useful, though sometimes you want
to be able to take your time.

cheers
Jacob

Peter Twydell wrote:

Ying tong iddle-i po!

From my child hood, I remembered that as Ying tong yiddle I po. A quick
google has confirmed that.

Dave

Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Arthur,

When you say "hot glue" do you mean the old type animal glue that's boiled
up in a double pot or the stuff that is exuded from a hot glue gun?


Brian G

"Brian G" wrote in message
...
Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Arthur,

When you say "hot glue" do you mean the old type animal glue that's boiled
up in a double pot or the stuff that is exuded from a hot glue gun?


Brian G


Sorry.
I should have said, hot glue gun.

Arthur

On 25 Nov, 12:44, "Arthur2" wrote:
"Brian G" wrote in message

...

Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Arthur,

When you say "hot glue" do you mean the old type animal glue that's boiled
up in a double pot or the stuff that is exuded from a hot glue gun?

Brian G

Sorry.
I should have said, hot glue gun.

Arthur

I've only used a hot glue gun for one project... gluing drawer kit
sides to a thin MDF frame.

The advantage I found was that it formed a glue 'rivet' when extruded
through the screw holes.

It also tolerates filling big gaps well, as it sets so quickly.

M.

In message , Arthur2
writes
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur



One disadvantage is that if you get it on your skin when it's hot, the
only way I know to get it off is to remove the skin...
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

In message
,
robgraham writes
On 25 Nov, 11:02, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Which just goes to show that "The devil came down to
Georgia" can't be true

.... where would he be able to practice ?

--
geoff

Arthur2 wrote:
"Brian G" wrote in message
...
Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur
Arthur,

When you say "hot glue" do you mean the old type animal glue that's boiled
up in a double pot or the stuff that is exuded from a hot glue gun?


Brian G


Sorry.
I should have said, hot glue gun.

Arthur



Not good for tight fitting joints etc because it tends to occupy more
space than pva glues (because it sets so quickly)

geoff wrote:

In message , Dave
writes

Peter Twydell wrote:

Ying tong iddle-i po!

From my child hood, I remembered that as Ying tong yiddle I po. A
quick google has confirmed that.


Childhood ?

I have the original EP about 4 metres from where I'm sitting

I'll bet my brother still has that EP (he is 11 years older than me and
was into the goons a lot longer)

Dave

Skipweasel wrote:

In article ,
says...

One disadvantage is that if you get it on your skin when it's hot, the
only way I know to get it off is to remove the skin...


I once had to get a nut and washer along the inside of a long box
section at the top of a Renault Espace roof. Way out of reach, but
sticking the bits to the end of an unrolled coathanger did wonders -
once I'd got it tight I just yanked and the glue broke.

For that sort of thing it's fantastic.

But don't get a large blob of glue on your skin. It really does burn!
You can get lowmelt guns for kids to use.

I have often thought about getting a low temp glue gun. Do they stick
the same as high temp?

Dave

In message , Dave
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:

Ying tong iddle-i po!

From my child hood, I remembered that as Ying tong yiddle I po. A quick
google has confirmed that.


Childhood ?

I have the original EP about 4 metres from where I'm sitting


--
geoff

On 25 Nov, 12:44, "Arthur2" wrote:
"Brian G" wrote in message

...

Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Arthur,

When you say "hot glue" do you mean the old type animal glue that's boiled
up in a double pot or the stuff that is exuded from a hot glue gun?

Brian G

Sorry.
I should have said, hot glue gun.

Arthur

Ahh well, that just goes to show that if you come from the more
ancient of the race, you just assume that everyone talks the same
language as you !

Rob

In article ,
says...
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?


Depends what you want to do with it!

It's great for gap-filling.
It's great for things that may need to flex or vibrate a bit.
It's excellent for rapid work - hold for a few seconds and it's done.
It's bloody awful for prolonged loads or safety items - it just falls
apart eventually.

What we use ours for most is junk modelling with the kids. Sticking
toilet roll tubes to cornflake packets isn't easy with PVA like they use
in schools - it takes so long that most five year olds have lost
interest before it's stuck. But - do it with hot glue (and yes, you can
teach kids to use it safely, both ours manage) and their creativity
isn't cramped by having to slow their ideas down to let the medium keep
up. Space-ships with dozens of wonderful excressences are possible - if
the kid wants a radar dome with multiple blasters and an extra airlock -
they can have them in moments. Much fun.
--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

In article ,
says...
One disadvantage is that if you get it on your skin when it's hot, the
only way I know to get it off is to remove the skin...

I once had to get a nut and washer along the inside of a long box
section at the top of a Renault Espace roof. Way out of reach, but
sticking the bits to the end of an unrolled coathanger did wonders -
once I'd got it tight I just yanked and the glue broke.

For that sort of thing it's fantastic.

But don't get a large blob of glue on your skin. It really does burn!
You can get lowmelt guns for kids to use.

--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

"Skipweasel" wrote in message
.uk...
In article ,
says...
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?


Depends what you want to do with it!

It's great for gap-filling.
It's great for things that may need to flex or vibrate a bit.
It's excellent for rapid work - hold for a few seconds and it's done.
It's bloody awful for prolonged loads or safety items - it just falls
apart eventually.

What we use ours for most is junk modelling with the kids. Sticking
toilet roll tubes to cornflake packets isn't easy with PVA like they use
in schools - it takes so long that most five year olds have lost
interest before it's stuck. But - do it with hot glue (and yes, you can
teach kids to use it safely, both ours manage) and their creativity
isn't cramped by having to slow their ideas down to let the medium keep
up. Space-ships with dozens of wonderful excressences are possible - if
the kid wants a radar dome with multiple blasters and an extra airlock -
they can have them in moments. Much fun.
--

Don't start me off please.
I have a 5 year old and I know all the words to 'I'm Archie! The Inventor"

Arthur

In article ,
says...
I have often thought about getting a low temp glue gun. Do they stick
the same as high temp?


I don't know, the local toddler's group bought one but someone
"borrowed" it before I ever got a chance to play with it!
--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

In article ,
says...
I have a 5 year old and I know all the words to 'I'm Archie! The Inventor"

Ah, well, you'll know all about why hotmelt is so much more immediate
than PVA. You can get a lot more building done in the same attention
span!
--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

normanwisdom wrote:
On 25 Nov, 11:53, robgraham wrote:
On 25 Nov, 11:02, "Arthur2" wrote:

Hi all.
I've never used this stuff before.
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?

Arthur

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Rob

And cleans off nicely with a damp cloth. Or if there are big beads to
clean off they can go back in the pot with no wastage.
Little or no clamping time - really useful, though sometimes you want
to be able to take your time.

cheers
Jacob

I don't think you're talking about what most people uunderstand by hot glue
these days - ie the thermoplastic sticks applied with a gun.
--
LSR

On 26 Nov, 08:40, Skipweasel wrote:
In article ,
says... I have a 5 year old and I know all the words to 'I'm Archie! The Inventor"

Ah, well, you'll know all about why hotmelt is so much more immediate
than PVA. You can get a lot more building done in the same attention
span!
--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

My daughter believes that the world has not yet woken up to the
phenomenal possibilities of sellotape.

Arthur

Arthur 51 wrote:

My daughter believes that the world has not yet woken up to the
phenomenal possibilities of sellotape.


I had an A&E surgeon who thought the same.


--
Ian White

Ian White wrote:
Arthur 51 wrote:

My daughter believes that the world has not yet woken up to the
phenomenal possibilities of sellotape.


I had an A&E surgeon who thought the same.

Did the gerbil survive?


--
Cheers,

John.

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Skipweasel wrote:
In article ,
says...
What are its advantages over say conventional wood glue?


Depends what you want to do with it!

It's great for gap-filling.
It's great for things that may need to flex or vibrate a bit.
It's excellent for rapid work - hold for a few seconds and it's done.
It's bloody awful for prolonged loads or safety items - it just falls
apart eventually.

Also good for sticking cables to PITA surfaces that resist nails - also
things like taking awkward cables into wall chases prior to plastering.

Handy for potting small circuits in boxes...

You can sometimes find rawlplug sticks that are handy for getting a
fixing in really crumbly plaster.

Sticks plastic to wood quite well.

--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:
Ian White wrote:
Arthur 51 wrote:

My daughter believes that the world has not yet woken up to the
phenomenal possibilities of sellotape.

I had an A&E surgeon who thought the same.

Did the gerbil survive?

Alt.gerbil.sellotape.keystage1 is thataway...

The surgeon was using it as a low-tack alternative to sticking plaster.
Since many of his patients were hairy rock climbers, it was the humane
thing to do.


--
Ian White

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:10:52 +0000, Dave
wrote:

I have often thought about getting a low temp glue gun. Do they stick
the same as high temp?

Yes, but the "open time" is annoyingly short before the glue sets.

I just wear disposable gloves. If you blob yourself badly, you peel.

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:10:52 +0000, Dave
wrote:


I have often thought about getting a low temp glue gun. Do they stick
the same as high temp?


Yes, but the "open time" is annoyingly short before the glue sets.

I just wear disposable gloves. If you blob yourself badly, you peel.

Thanks for that, I'll stick to the hot melt (pun not intended.)

Dave

Dave wrote:
geoff wrote:
In message , Dave
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:

Ying tong iddle-i po!

From my child hood, I remembered that as Ying tong yiddle I po. A
quick google has confirmed that.


Childhood ?

I have the original EP about 4 metres from where I'm sitting

I'll bet my brother still has that EP (he is 11 years older than me and
was into the goons a lot longer)

Dave

I was confused for a moment, 78s dont come in an EP version
afaik. You modern progressive people!


NT

In message
,
writes
Dave wrote:
geoff wrote:
In message , Dave
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:

Ying tong iddle-i po!

From my child hood, I remembered that as Ying tong yiddle I po. A
quick google has confirmed that.


Childhood ?

I have the original EP about 4 metres from where I'm sitting

I'll bet my brother still has that EP (he is 11 years older than me and
was into the goons a lot longer)

Dave

I was confused for a moment, 78s dont come in an EP version
afaik. You modern progressive people!

Sorry, the goons "Unchained Melodies" (Decca 1964) was an LP - I just
checked

--
geoff

geoff wrote:

robgraham writes
..snippage...

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Which just goes to show that "The devil came down to
Georgia" can't be true

... where would he be able to practice ?


Ah, you are forgetting the rest of the song. It was a "fiddle of gold."
Prolly assembled with silver solder, to withstand the high temperature.

Edwin.
------

In message , Edwin Spector
writes
geoff wrote:

robgraham writes
..snippage...

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Which just goes to show that "The devil came down to
Georgia" can't be true
... where would he be able to practice ?


Ah, you are forgetting the rest of the song.

I never knew it - being country and western ****e, the first line is as
far as I ever heard.

--
geoff

geoff wrote:
In message , Edwin Spector
writes
geoff wrote:

robgraham writes
..snippage...

Quick setting, and can be softened, and therefore dismantled, with
heat - essential if you are making things like violins. Useful f you
are doing veneering as the veneer can effectively be ironed on.

Which just goes to show that "The devil came down to
Georgia" can't be true
... where would he be able to practice ?


Ah, you are forgetting the rest of the song.

I never knew it - being country and western ****e, the first line is as
far as I ever heard.

Its a bit more than country and western, that one...