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Planing a door.
If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame,
can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? Mark. |
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wrote in message ps.com... If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame, can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? Mark. There must be a technique, when planing the top or bottom of a door, for removing the same amount from the side members (across the grain) as from the top or bottom components (with the grain), but I haven't discovered it. Gave up years ago and now use an electric planer for that job (and most others). When planing the top or bottom start the cut off at each side of the door and finish somewhere in the middle or else you'll spall off the wood on the surface of the side pieces. Sorry about the lack of knowledge of the technical terms for the components of a door, I'm sure you will follow what I mean. |
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On 26 Oct, 15:19, NoSpam wrote:
wrote: If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame, can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? Mark. A cheap electric plane is much faster, but make sure you back-up the "exit edge" when working on the bottom or the grain may split (alternatively work towards the centre). Dave I've never understood how to plane to the center - surley you are going to end up either missing bits, or planing the same bit twice? Mark. |
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If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame, can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? For top and bottom of a door, I just use a circular saw and a clamped batten. You can take of fractions of a saw kerf this way if you want and don't get any of the splintering problems. I then just use a powered plane for taking sharp corners off, and shooting in the sides if required. (although I often find wedging the frame a better way to fix uneven gaps) http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...Hanging_a_door -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Planing a door.
For top and bottom of a door, I just use a circular saw and a clamped batten. Any other method amounts to masochism |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
For top and bottom of a door, I just use a circular saw and a clamped batten. Any other method amounts to masochism Agreed - the only way to go. Sawboard even better, stops the top edge splintering. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:05:51 -0700, wrote:
If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame, can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? Mark. I use an electric plane for this purpose but I've never understood what all the different types of hand plane are. What is a #5, #4, etc? TIA |
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On 26 Oct, 14:19, "Rambelt" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... If I am going to plane the bottom and sides of a door to fit a frame, can I get away with using my current "smoothing" #4 plane, or should I invest in a #5? Mark. There must be a technique, when planing the top or bottom of a door, for removing the same amount from the side members (across the grain) as from the top or bottom components (with the grain), but I haven't discovered it. Gave up years ago and now use an electric planer for that job (and most others). When planing the top or bottom start the cut off at each side of the door and finish somewhere in the middle or else you'll spall off the wood on the surface of the side pieces. Sorry about the lack of knowledge of the technical terms for the components of a door, I'm sure you will follow what I mean. The top and bottom parts of the door (the horizontal elements) are the rails. The side parts (vertical) are called stiles. The central vertical dividing parts are called muntins, but you'll not be bothering them with your plane. Edward |
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I use an electric plane for this purpose but I've never understood what all the different types of hand plane are. What is a #5, #4, etc? The numbers refer to the old Stanley model numbers. The No.4 is 2.5" wide and No.5 is 3" wide (and 9.5" and 10.5" long respectively). They're known as smoothing planes. No's 6, 7, 8 are longer versions of the No.5 (and known as jack, fore and jointing planes respectively - although my memory may be faulty on that). The very long planes are really for edge jointing long boards where a long and very flat side is required. Most jobs can be done with a No. 4. It's weight is reasonable, and handle big enough to be comfortable. There are also No's 3, 2, 1 going down in size, but they're much less common (or useful). I'd agree for trimming doors, circular saw and guide batten is the way to go - it's not a job that requires fraction of a mm precision. But nothing produces a beautiful wood surface like a hand plane - not saws, not thicknessers, not power planes. There's also lot's of spots where it's easier and produces better results to use a hand plane. Hand planes can also do precise fitting (and shooting-in) that only a router can equal (though they can also do lots of other stuff) - and do it without all the set-up. The downside is of course the skill required both to sharpen and set up a hand plane well and to use it well. A hand plane will always be slower as well, but you can cross- plane can get wood off quickly. I'm not saying hand tools are best, and there's a substantial learning curve to skilled hand plane usage - but in some jobs it still has no equal. |
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