It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Colin Wilson wrote:

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

Later models are lighter and suck much better that the DC01.

Been well pleased with the DC14 Animal - seems to cope with dog and
SWMBO hair very well.

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"Colin Wilson" o.uk wrote
in message t...
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

We have an Electrolux Loopie and it performs very well.

Colin Wilson wrote:
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Colin,

we have a DC03 - the lightweight one - and I've found that Dyson are
very good on spares. Even if the bit isn't on their website, phone and
ask. last time I did the girl said "most people don't get that apart,
that's why we only list the whole assembly" - then sold me the belt
only, and not for much dosh.

Andy

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)
Later models are lighter and suck much better that the DC01.
Been well pleased with the DC14 Animal - seems to cope with dog and
SWMBO hair very well.

Despite me angling for a "real" cleaner of commercial grade, we ended
up in Makro and got a DC14 AllFloor for £132+VAT after a bit of
haggling - they managed to stuff up their own flyer which said it was
£129+VAT, then they had a note next to them saying it was a mistake
and it referred to the "old" DC14 (without anyone knowing the
difference), and at least two A4 price sheets saying £149 *zero VAT*

We asked them to clarify, as the pricing mistake had been promoted in
the Makro Mail, and the price of £149 was roughly what it would have
been if the goods were sold at the advertised price plus VAT.

We got to the point where the manager was called (he didn't want to
get mixed up in it - the only communication was by phone) - and we
were offered it for £132+VAT

I wonder how the bloke behind us got on - he had two of them, and was
actually the one who spotted the "zero VAT" on the A4 pricing labels
on the shelves next to them. Things were getting a little heated as we
left - we just happened to beat him to the till :-}

Later models are lighter and suck much better that the DC01.

I didn't notice it being much lighter tbh...

Been well pleased with the DC14 Animal - seems to cope with dog and
SWMBO hair very well.

It actually started to tear threads out of our bloody carpet as well
as getting the dog hair...

On 2007-10-10 22:26:43 +0100, Colin Wilson
o.uk said:

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both

carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)
Later models are lighter and suck much better that the DC01.
Been well pleased with the DC14 Animal - seems to cope with dog and
SWMBO hair very well.

Despite me angling for a "real" cleaner of commercial grade, we ended
up in Makro and got a DC14 AllFloor for £132+VAT after a bit of
haggling - they managed to stuff up their own flyer which said it was
£129+VAT, then they had a note next to them saying it was a mistake
and it referred to the "old" DC14 (without anyone knowing the
difference), and at least two A4 price sheets saying £149 *zero VAT*

We asked them to clarify, as the pricing mistake had been promoted in
the Makro Mail, and the price of £149 was roughly what it would have
been if the goods were sold at the advertised price plus VAT.

We got to the point where the manager was called (he didn't want to
get mixed up in it - the only communication was by phone) - and we
were offered it for £132+VAT

I wonder how the bloke behind us got on - he had two of them, and was
actually the one who spotted the "zero VAT" on the A4 pricing labels
on the shelves next to them. Things were getting a little heated as we
left - we just happened to beat him to the till :-}

Nice.

I like seeing the business ineptitude of these places being used to
advantage by their customers.

Colin Wilson wrote:
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

I assume you are looking for a tub vacuum?

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

The Nilfisk is the best on the market without any doubt. They have been
around since God was a boy. I worked for them for 12 years and despite
being a cynical bugger I have to say they are the puppys parts. A GM 80
will likely outlast you if you are over 30. Superb quality & design.


How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Sebo tub vacs are good but not exceptional. Sebo uprights are the best
available IMO, nothing close.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On 2007-10-10 23:03:41 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Colin Wilson wrote:
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

I assume you are looking for a tub vacuum?

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

The Nilfisk is the best on the market without any doubt. They have been
around since God was a boy. I worked for them for 12 years and despite
being a cynical bugger I have to say they are the puppys parts. A GM 80
will likely outlast you if you are over 30. Superb quality & design.


How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Sebo tub vacs are good but not exceptional. Sebo uprights are the best
available IMO, nothing close.

So is this Nilfisk product made in Denmark or ??

I assume you are looking for a tub vacuum?

Just one that sucks like a crack whore looking to score their next fix
- i'm really not sure how non-powered carpet "heads" deal with fur
though, having used cylinder style cleaners in the past (which were
all pathetic).

The Nilfisk is the best on the market without any doubt. They have been
around since God was a boy. I worked for them for 12 years and despite
being a cynical bugger I have to say they are the puppys parts. A GM 80
will likely outlast you if you are over 30. Superb quality & design.

Damn - per the other reply, we ended up with another DieSoon rather
more quickly than i'd hoped for...

I was thinking something more along the lines of the GM80 / GD930 but
was having trouble trying to find a price for the GM80 - the only one
i'd seen prior to hitting Makro was just under £400. I've just spotted
the GM80C in Ankef for £215+VAT which would have saved me a trip :-(

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-10-10 23:03:41 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Colin Wilson wrote:
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to
both carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended
in the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a
good replacement.

I assume you are looking for a tub vacuum?

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the
bagless mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the
carpet nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in
my experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

The Nilfisk is the best on the market without any doubt. They have
been around since God was a boy. I worked for them for 12 years and
despite being a cynical bugger I have to say they are the puppys
parts. A GM 80 will likely outlast you if you are over 30. Superb
quality & design.

How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Sebo tub vacs are good but not exceptional. Sebo uprights are the
best available IMO, nothing close.

So is this Nilfisk product made in Denmark or ??

It was until about 1980, but Denmark is a very expensive place to make
things. Now assembled in Denmark in a very impresive totally automated
factory. AFAIK the motors are made to a Nilfisk spec in Italy. Since
Nilfisk own Electrolux in Sweden, where they have some very high tech
plastic moulding capability I suspect many of the other parts are produced
their.

The GM80 is the best vac I have ever come across in 30 years
http://www.nilfisk-advance.co.uk/Pro...roduction.aspx

For example they had the hospital market totally sewn up until Maggie
introduced CCT. Quite common prior to that to find GM80's still going after
20 years of 24/7 use.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

"Colin Wilson" o.uk wrote
in message t...
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)


Not much use on an existing house - but I built mine into my build ... very
powerful, and only a lightweight hose to move around.
Much better idea.

Not much use on an existing house - but I built mine into my build ...
very powerful, and only a lightweight hose to move around.
Much better idea.

That might well be the case - do you have a powered head to help get
up fur ?

On 2007-10-10 23:45:16 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Andy Hall wrote:

So is this Nilfisk product made in Denmark or ??

It was until about 1980, but Denmark is a very expensive place to make
things.

Quite.


Now assembled in Denmark in a very impresive totally automated
factory. AFAIK the motors are made to a Nilfisk spec in Italy.

A lot of products have this. It seems that there are quite a number
of medium sized firms there making motors


Since
Nilfisk own Electrolux in Sweden,

Really? I thought that Nilfisk was part of the Danish NKT Holdings
group. I looked on NKT's site and they appear to be listed on the
Copenhagen stock exchange. It talks about acquisition of the Euroclean
business from Electrolux at some point. Was that what you meant?

Electrolux, AIUI, is listed in Stockholm and London and
controlled/heavily influenced by Investor AB (i.e. the Wallenbergs).
They appear to have commercial cleaner products as well as the domestic
range.



where they have some very high tech
plastic moulding capability I suspect many of the other parts are produced
their.

The GM80 is the best vac I have ever come across in 30 years
http://www.nilfisk-advance.co.uk/Pro...roduction.aspx

For

example they had the hospital market totally sewn up until Maggie
introduced CCT. Quite common prior to that to find GM80's still going after
20 years of 24/7 use.

Now I recognise them. They are seen almost ubiquitously in hotels
all over the Nordic area and Germany.

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-10-10 23:45:16 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
Since
Nilfisk own Electrolux in Sweden,

Really? I thought that Nilfisk was part of the Danish NKT Holdings
group. I looked on NKT's site and they appear to be listed on the
Copenhagen stock exchange. It talks about acquisition of the Euroclean
business from Electrolux at some point. Was that what you meant?


No sorry, I meant Electolux Euroclean, the commercial cleaning machine part
of the Electrolux empire. Refered to in the trade simply as Electrolux -
forgetting the major part of the business.

The GM80 is the best vac I have ever come across in 30 years
http://www.nilfisk-advance.co.uk/Pro...roduction.aspx

For

example they had the hospital market totally sewn up until Maggie
introduced CCT. Quite common prior to that to find GM80's still
going after 20 years of 24/7 use.

Now I recognise them. They are seen almost ubiquitously in hotels
all over the Nordic area and Germany.

Indeed they are.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:52:36 +0100, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:

It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement...

A somewhat anti-Miele opinion
http://latexiron.livejournal.com/416790.html


The guy in question owns at least two working gas turbine engines and an
insane number of motorbikes. I'm only surprised that he wasn't _happy_
to also have a pyrocleaner.

On 2007-10-13 16:18:31 +0100, Andy Dingley said:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:52:36 +0100, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:

It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement...

A somewhat anti-Miele opinion
http://latexiron.livejournal.com/416790.html


The guy in question owns at least two working gas turbine engines and an
insane number of motorbikes. I'm only surprised that he wasn't _happy_
to also have a pyrocleaner.

Did you make contact with Liz Lowlife at the bottom of the link? She
seems to offer a good level of service.

On 13 Oct, 20:52, Andy Hall wrote:

Did you make contact with Liz Lowlife at the bottom of the link?

Liz is a very dear friend of mine

obDIY: I tiled her bathroom

On 10 Oct, 18:52, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:
It had a long and productive life, bye bye DC01 !

Now then, onto a replacement... we're looking for lightweight (to both
carry and use i.e. Dysons are heavy, but the big wheels made it
surprisingly light to use)

I know Sebo, Nilfisk and the Miele Cat & Dog have been recommended in
the past - and having two hairy mutts we're on the lookout for a good
replacement.

Does anyone have a Nilfisk GM80 by any chance ? - how does the bagless
mode work ? - and with all the dog hair, how well does the carpet
nozzle work, given that most cylinder cleaners are lousy (in my
experience) and need a brush to pick up hair ?

How about the Sebo range - anything stand out there ?

Henry - never ever had a problem with it and it sucks up everything
and doesn't eat bags. I even used it to clean up a load of plaster
dust - it cut out and I thought it was ded. Emailed the Henry
manufacturer web site and within an hour *they* rang *me*, to explain
that the thing cuts out to prevent a motor burn out and I should try
it again. Lo and behold it was fine.
Excellent build quality, customer service, British made, reasonable
price - what more could you want?

I use a Mercedes, OEM branded as a TLK 1100. I bought it
14 years ago and it's still going strong. You can strip
it down in less than 60 seconds and clean it in the sink!

JGH - mdfs.net