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Bulb voltages
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.
I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:24:38 +0100
"R D S" wrote: I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Not really. Although a 12volt bulb is unlikely to be damaged by having 6 volts across it, 6 volts will not get the filament hot enough to give much light. I'm assuming this is an incandescent bulb. To get advice on sources for your bulb, you'd need to say what kind of fitting it is, or, better, post a picture. R. |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
R D S wrote: I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick At a very rough approximation, if you feed a 60w 12v bulb with 6v it will consume about 15 watts. However, this is pretty crude because the filament will not get as hot as it's supposed to - and its resistance changes quite a lot with temperature - so God knows what you'll *actually* get. In any case, the chances of getting much useful light out of it are slim because, at a lower temperature, most of the output will be in the form of infra-red rather than visible light. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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"R D S" wrote in message
... I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick Mail order? www.cpc.co.uk is good in my experience |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:24:38 UTC, "R D S" wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? No. 6 volts is only half the 'pressure' of 12 volts, so only half as much current flows. You'll only be putting a quarter of the power into the bulb. Tell us more about these bulbs you can't get; perhaps post a picture, and what's written on them. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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R D S wrote: I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? To make an efficient bulb the filament has to glow at a specific temperature - and this is achieved by the design of the filament. And the resistance changes dramatically from cold to hot. Two lamps with the same nominal resistance when hot will have very different filaments according to the voltage. -- *Virtual reality is its own reward * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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R D S wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick Try a motor cycle dealer. You certainly *used* to get 'bikes with 6v electrics. a 12V bulb will do nothing useful. Andy |
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"R D S" writes: I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. What lamp base? CPC have an H3 one: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/pr...sp?sku=LP01532 "available until stocks exhausted" Here's a picture of an H3 bulb (albeit not the one above) http://cpc.farnell.com/productimages...0396906-40.jpg -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Oct 4, 10:24 am, "R D S" wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick These any good? http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&_trksid=m3 7&satitle=6v+15w+- supply cheers, Pete. |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? As everyone else has said, "no", and "what type of cap?". http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...ting/bulbs.php shows a few types, but the only 6V 15W shown is a festoon type. A pleasant enough firm to deal with, too. -- Kevin Poole **Use current month and year to reply (e.g. )*** |
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"Autolycus" wrote in message
... "R D S" wrote in message ... I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? As everyone else has said, "no", and "what type of cap?". http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...ting/bulbs.php shows a few types, but the only 6V 15W shown is a festoon type. A pleasant enough firm to deal with, too. Thanks all, I got them from a bike dealer last time but they were the wrong wattage and were a bit dim (i'll do the jokes). I have some on order and will get the details from the bulb when they come in. It is a bayonet type with one terminal on the base. Cheers. |
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writes "R D S" wrote in message ... I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? Cheers, Rick Mail order? www.cpc.co.uk is good in my experience IIRC he's in Lancs - prolly not too far from Preston -- geoff |
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In message , R D S
writes I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? a 12v one might glow weakly ... look on the RS or CPC website -- geoff |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:03:14 GMT, geoff wrote:
In message , R D S writes I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt. I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so what wattage would be best? My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this about right? a 12v one might glow weakly ... look on the RS or CPC website One point not taken into account so far. A tungsten filament has a +ve temp coefficient and the resistance will be far too low if it is on a lower than design supply. This makes it difficult to estimate how a 12v bulb will work on 6v. |
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