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R D S October 4th 07 10:24 AM

Bulb voltages
 
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?

Cheers,
Rick



TheOldFellow October 4th 07 12:10 PM

Bulb voltages
 
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:24:38 +0100
"R D S" wrote:

I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?


Not really. Although a 12volt bulb is unlikely to be damaged by having
6 volts across it, 6 volts will not get the filament hot enough to
give much light. I'm assuming this is an incandescent bulb.

To get advice on sources for your bulb, you'd need to say what kind of
fitting it is, or, better, post a picture.

R.

Roger Mills October 4th 07 12:12 PM

Bulb voltages
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
R D S wrote:

I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And
if so what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the
filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be
interchangeability, is this about right?

Cheers,
Rick


At a very rough approximation, if you feed a 60w 12v bulb with 6v it will
consume about 15 watts.

However, this is pretty crude because the filament will not get as hot as
it's supposed to - and its resistance changes quite a lot with temperature -
so God knows what you'll *actually* get.

In any case, the chances of getting much useful light out of it are slim
because, at a lower temperature, most of the output will be in the form of
infra-red rather than visible light.
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Sparks October 4th 07 03:49 PM

Bulb voltages
 
"R D S" wrote in message
...
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is
this
about right?

Cheers,
Rick


Mail order?

www.cpc.co.uk is good in my experience


Bob Eager October 4th 07 04:17 PM

Bulb voltages
 
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:24:38 UTC, "R D S" wrote:

I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?


No. 6 volts is only half the 'pressure' of 12 volts, so only half as
much current flows. You'll only be putting a quarter of the power into
the bulb.

Tell us more about these bulbs you can't get; perhaps post a picture,
and what's written on them.

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Dave Plowman (News) October 4th 07 04:34 PM

Bulb voltages
 
In article ,
R D S wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.


I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if
so what wattage would be best?


My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the
filament, it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be
interchangeability, is this about right?


To make an efficient bulb the filament has to glow at a specific
temperature - and this is achieved by the design of the filament. And the
resistance changes dramatically from cold to hot. Two lamps with the same
nominal resistance when hot will have very different filaments according
to the voltage.

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Andy Champ October 4th 07 08:40 PM

Bulb voltages
 
R D S wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?

Cheers,
Rick


Try a motor cycle dealer. You certainly *used* to get 'bikes with 6v
electrics. a 12V bulb will do nothing useful.

Andy

Andrew Gabriel October 4th 07 09:33 PM

Bulb voltages
 
In article ,
"R D S" writes:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.


What lamp base?

CPC have an H3 one:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/pr...sp?sku=LP01532
"available until stocks exhausted"

Here's a picture of an H3 bulb (albeit not the one above)
http://cpc.farnell.com/productimages...0396906-40.jpg

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Pete C October 4th 07 10:13 PM

Bulb voltages
 
On Oct 4, 10:24 am, "R D S" wrote:
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?

Cheers,
Rick


These any good?

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&_trksid=m3 7&satitle=6v+15w+-
supply

cheers,
Pete.


Autolycus[_2_] October 4th 07 10:19 PM

Bulb voltages
 

"R D S" wrote in message
...
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if
so
what wattage would be best?


As everyone else has said, "no", and "what type of cap?".

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...ting/bulbs.php

shows a few types, but the only 6V 15W shown is a festoon type.

A pleasant enough firm to deal with, too.


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R D S October 5th 07 08:58 AM

Bulb voltages
 
"Autolycus" wrote in message
...

"R D S" wrote in message
...
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if
so
what wattage would be best?


As everyone else has said, "no", and "what type of cap?".

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.e...ting/bulbs.php

shows a few types, but the only 6V 15W shown is a festoon type.

A pleasant enough firm to deal with, too.


Thanks all, I got them from a bike dealer last time but they were the wrong
wattage and were a bit dim (i'll do the jokes).

I have some on order and will get the details from the bulb when they come
in.

It is a bayonet type with one terminal on the base.

Cheers.



geoff October 6th 07 01:03 AM

Bulb voltages
 
In message , Sparks
writes
"R D S" wrote in message
...
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability,
is this
about right?

Cheers,
Rick


Mail order?

www.cpc.co.uk is good in my experience

IIRC he's in Lancs - prolly not too far from Preston

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geoff October 6th 07 01:03 AM

Bulb voltages
 
In message , R D S
writes
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?

a 12v one might glow weakly ...

look on the RS or CPC website


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John Evans October 6th 07 08:07 PM

Bulb voltages
 
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:03:14 GMT, geoff wrote:

In message , R D S
writes
I use 6v bulbs, 15 Watt.

I struggle to get hold of them locally, could I use a 12v bulb? And if so
what wattage would be best?

My understanding of bulbs is that electricity passes through the filament,
it gets hot and glows, so there would surely be interchangeability, is this
about right?

a 12v one might glow weakly ...

look on the RS or CPC website


One point not taken into account so far. A tungsten filament has a +ve
temp coefficient and the resistance will be far too low if it is on a
lower than design supply. This makes it difficult to estimate how a
12v bulb will work on 6v.


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