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Now that I have all the floor up, it is time to add extra sockets.

The ring goes through our lounge so it is easy to put in extra sockets
and wiring as an extension/ rewire of that part of it.

Presently, cables are laid lying on the sub floor, the only support
being the floor and where they are chased up to the fittings and encased
in plaster.

Is this OK? Or should they be clipped to joists?

Personally, I can't see a problem as this is how houses have been
rewired for years but some nagging feeling tells me that I should clip
it all up otherwise fall foul of a regulation or other and find out only
when new floor is laid!



Thanks for advice.

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On Sep 20, 3:22 pm, Steve wrote:
Now that I have all the floor up, it is time to add extra sockets.

The ring goes through our lounge so it is easy to put in extra sockets
and wiring as an extension/ rewire of that part of it.

Presently, cables are laid lying on the sub floor, the only support
being the floor and where they are chased up to the fittings and encased
in plaster.

Is this OK? Or should they be clipped to joists?

Personally, I can't see a problem as this is how houses have been
rewired for years but some nagging feeling tells me that I should clip
it all up otherwise fall foul of a regulation or other and find out only
when new floor is laid!

Thanks for advice.

Steve


Hi,

If the cable gets rodent damage then it'll be easier to pull a new one
through using the old one if it's unclipped.

If I clipped it I'd leave pull wires (eg steel fencing wire) in some
handy locations just in case, may be useful for other wires too.

cheers,
Pete.



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AFAIK as long as the cable is supported and not hanging it's OK.


Sat on the sub floor seems quite common...

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John Rumm wrote:
Owain wrote:

AFAIK as long as the cable is supported and not hanging it's OK.


Sat on the sub floor seems quite common...

Thanks, there is enough so that the cable will rest on the sub floor and
not hang.

As long as I am not breaking some regulation or other, this is my
preferred option.

Cheers

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Steve wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
Owain wrote:

AFAIK as long as the cable is supported and not hanging it's OK.


Sat on the sub floor seems quite common...

Thanks, there is enough so that the cable will rest on the sub floor and
not hang.

As long as I am not breaking some regulation or other, this is my
preferred option.


It is the way many places with suspended floors will end up getting
rewired at least. It does however increase the risk of rodent damage.

Depending on what access you can get, and the available space down there
you may find it your only option in some cases.

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John Rumm wrote:
Steve wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
Owain wrote:

AFAIK as long as the cable is supported and not hanging it's OK.

Sat on the sub floor seems quite common...

Thanks, there is enough so that the cable will rest on the sub floor
and not hang.

As long as I am not breaking some regulation or other, this is my
preferred option.


It is the way many places with suspended floors will end up getting
rewired at least. It does however increase the risk of rodent damage.

Depending on what access you can get, and the available space down there
you may find it your only option in some cases.


Out of interest, would it be okay to lay a junction box on the sub floor
(presuming of course that there it is accessible)?
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Richard Conway wrote:

Out of interest, would it be okay to lay a junction box on the sub floor
(presuming of course that there it is accessible)?


The problem there is the typical junction box includes no strain relief
on the cable entry, so it depends on the cables being clipped to
something to achieve this. Otherwise the normal thermal cycling of the
cable (and hence expansion) could work the connections loose.

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Out of interest, would it be okay to lay a junction box on the sub floor
(presuming of course that there it is accessible)?


I always fix them higher, so that in the event of a flood (or even
just spillage), they're clear of the lowest horizontal surface.

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Richard Conway wrote:
Depending on what access you can get, and the available space down
there you may find it your only option in some cases.


Out of interest, would it be okay to lay a junction box on the sub floor
(presuming of course that there it is accessible)?


I'd not be too happy with that. Cable itself is waterproof whereas a
junction box isn't. And under certain conditions a sub floor may get damp
or even wet.

I'd personally fix the cable to the joists as well to raise it off the sub
floor. If space is too tight to use ordinary cable clips on the underside
of the joists staple cable ties to the side of them at the bottom.

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