I posted recently about problems getting my usual floor sander to come
back to me with an estimate and how others had either let me down or
quoted too high a price .

Suggestions were made to get a belt sander and do it myself but I made
one last attempt to get hold of my usual guy and he came out last week
and said it would cost £100 so he ( or rather two of his guys) did it
yesterday and I'm well pleased with it .

He was using Morrell's 2 part Wood Finish and I asked him how he
cleaned the roller and he said if they did clean them they used White
Spirit then added " The real stuff not the ??? " I didn't catch what
the l;ast part was .

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

Stuart

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

Possibly turpentine substitute ?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:38:39 +0100, Stuart B
wrote:

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

No, there's a spec for it and it's surprisingly rigid. Turps sub. is
different (and will leave a non-volatile oily residue behind). The
cheapest of market stall grades might contain anything, but if it's from
a relatively trustworthy source, it's the same "white spirit" from
anywhere, to all practical purposes.

The only one where there really is a "genuine" article is of course
turpentine, for which the real thing is distilled from one of several
tree species, not from petrochemicals.

On 14 Sep, 00:26, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:38:39 +0100, Stuart B
wrote:

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

No, there's a spec for it and it's surprisingly rigid. Turps sub. is
different (and will leave a non-volatile oily residue behind). The
cheapest of market stall grades might contain anything, but if it's from
a relatively trustworthy source, it's the same "white spirit" from
anywhere, to all practical purposes.

The only one where there really is a "genuine" article is of course
turpentine, for which the real thing is distilled from one of several
tree species, not from petrochemicals.

URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit is probably
substantially correct. The usual Wikipedia disclaimers apply.

Sid

On 14 Sep, 08:42, wrote:
On 14 Sep, 00:26, Andy Dingley wrote:

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:38:39 +0100, Stuart B
wrote:

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

No, there's a spec for it and it's surprisingly rigid. Turps sub. is
different (and will leave a non-volatile oily residue behind). The
cheapest of market stall grades might contain anything, but if it's from
a relatively trustworthy source, it's the same "white spirit" from
anywhere, to all practical purposes.

The only one where there really is a "genuine" article is of course
turpentine, for which the real thing is distilled from one of several
tree species, not from petrochemicals.

URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit is probably
substantially correct. The usual Wikipedia disclaimers apply.

Sid

Actually, belay that. What Americans call white spirit, and what
people in the UK call white spirit are apparently not the same thing.
The Wikipedia article talks about the American stuff. UK white spirit
is defined in BS 245 : Mineral Solvents (White Spirit and Related
Hydrocarbon Solvents) for Paints and Other Purposes. Just goes to
show that Wikipedia disclaimers should be taken seriously - do not
take it as your only source.

Sid

wrote:

Actually, belay that. What Americans call white spirit, and what
people in the UK call white spirit are apparently not the same thing.
The Wikipedia article talks about the American stuff. UK white spirit
is defined in BS 245 : Mineral Solvents (White Spirit and Related
Hydrocarbon Solvents) for Paints and Other Purposes. Just goes to
show that Wikipedia disclaimers should be taken seriously - do not
take it as your only source.

Many years ago I had a Coleman camping stove. You could run it on their
own proprietary fuel (very expensive), petrol (cheap but a bit smelly)
or, IIRC, white spirit. I never did find any because it was the US
version they meant - which I think is closer to petrol than any form of
paint cleaner/thinner.

--
Rod

"Rod" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Many years ago I had a Coleman camping stove. You could run it on their
own proprietary fuel (very expensive), petrol (cheap but a bit smelly) or,
IIRC, white spirit. I never did find any because it was the US version
they meant - which I think is closer to petrol than any form of paint
cleaner/thinner.

"White Gas", not white spirit. But yes, pretty similar to petrol.

I've still got a Coleman camping stove - probably rather newer than yours
was though. Works on petrol very well :-)

cheers,
clive

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:50:20 -0700, wrote:

Actually, belay that. What Americans call white spirit, and what
people in the UK call white spirit are apparently not the same thing.

They are the same, only Americans very rarely use the term at all.
They're more likely to use either:

"mineral spirits" (turps sub.)

"denatured alcohol" (meths)

"Stoddard solvent" (our white spirit)

"white gas" (camping stove fuel, similar to petrol, but without the
additives (leaded or unleaded) to make it suitable for engines). Our
nearest is either Coleman fuel or lighter fluid.

"Stuart B" wrote in message
...
I posted recently about problems getting my usual floor sander to come
back to me with an estimate and how others had either let me down or
quoted too high a price .

Suggestions were made to get a belt sander and do it myself but I made
one last attempt to get hold of my usual guy and he came out last week
and said it would cost £100 so he ( or rather two of his guys) did it
yesterday and I'm well pleased with it .

He was using Morrell's 2 part Wood Finish and I asked him how he
cleaned the roller and he said if they did clean them they used White
Spirit then added " The real stuff not the ??? " I didn't catch what
the l;ast part was .

Are there different types of White Spirit ...?

Stuart

So what actually is White Spirit. I remember from school...

Methane - one carbon atom, aka natural gas
Ethane - 2 carbons
Propane - 3 carbons, comes in red tanks, preferred to ...
Butane - 4 carbons, comes in blue tanks, freezes in winter
Pentane - 5 carbons, not sure if its a gas or a liquid at room temp
Hexane - 6 carbons
Heptane - 7 carbons
Octane - 8 carbons, aka petrol
etc

Is white spirit one of the C6/7/9/ etc, or something else entirely?

In message , Dave Gordon
writes
So what actually is White Spirit. I remember from school...

Methane - one carbon atom, aka natural gas
Ethane - 2 carbons
Propane - 3 carbons, comes in red tanks, preferred to ...
Butane - 4 carbons, comes in blue tanks, freezes in winter
Pentane - 5 carbons, not sure if its a gas or a liquid at room temp
Hexane - 6 carbons
Heptane - 7 carbons
Octane - 8 carbons, aka petrol

No, octane is not petrol

The "octane" is an equivalence rating IIRC

--
geoff

Dave Gordon wrote:

So what actually is White Spirit. I remember from school...

Methane - one carbon atom, aka natural gas
Ethane - 2 carbons
Propane - 3 carbons, comes in red tanks, preferred to ...
Butane - 4 carbons, comes in blue tanks, freezes in winter
Pentane - 5 carbons, not sure if its a gas or a liquid at room temp
Hexane - 6 carbons
Heptane - 7 carbons
Octane - 8 carbons, aka petrol
etc

Is white spirit one of the C6/7/9/ etc, or something else entirely?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrol

Octane is one component

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

HTH

Andy