Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?

Thanks.


Arthur

On Jul 10, 9:04 pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?

I am surprised that you can get yellow pine these days if it is.

Southern where?

White pine is hard and durable but does not clean up well or polish it
won't take stain or any kind of a fine finish.

Red pine is more likely to be the stuff used in joinery -or was until
vast tracts of spruce needed to be felled due to poor forestry
management. It can be finished to a fine plish and takes any stain or
varnish well. It is also easy to impregnate without pressure treating.

Yellow pine, if clear of knots is considered one of the finest
furniture materials in the world. But it is fairly soft. All the 17th
and 18th century veneered mahogany furniture is laid on it.

Arthur2 wrote:
Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?

Thanks.


Arthur

Arthur,

If the old pocket can afford the cost, the best stuff to use is Parana
pine - it's classed as a sem-hardwood with a fantastic grain - and stairs
were nearly always made of it.

As a matter of interest, I have a small desk tidy and printer stand made of
Parana sitting on my desk as I type - to an old chippie, that's bliss. :-)

Brian G

Weatherlawyer coughed up some electrons that declared:

On Jul 10, 9:04 pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?

I am surprised that you can get yellow pine these days if it is.

I got some last year from the timber merchant in Tonbridge. It wasn't cheap,
and I didn't explicitly ask for it. I went in with a cutting list and a
request for "something dimensionally stable that won't turn into a banana
in 5 minutes". Yellow pine was what I got.

True, it was pretty stable. A fractional curl but almost neglible for 300mm
wide planks. It's being shelving in my lab right now. I expect I was boned
on the price (I don't have a feeling for wood prices so I let myself get
shafted, I expect) but I'm pleased with the product, function being
important here.

It is oiled, for no other reason that I wanted a quick finish and I'm not a
big fan of painted finishes. The result is more "rustic" than "fine
furniture" but it gives a nice ambience to where I spend a lot of time
sitting, so I like it.

Cheers

Tim

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 10, 9:04 pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?

I am surprised that you can get yellow pine these days if it is.

Southern where?

White pine is hard and durable but does not clean up well or polish it
won't take stain or any kind of a fine finish.

Red pine is more likely to be the stuff used in joinery -or was until
vast tracts of spruce needed to be felled due to poor forestry
management. It can be finished to a fine plish and takes any stain or
varnish well. It is also easy to impregnate without pressure treating.

Yellow pine, if clear of knots is considered one of the finest
furniture materials in the world. But it is fairly soft. All the 17th
and 18th century veneered mahogany furniture is laid on it.



Taken on board..to coin a phrase.
Took another look at t and p and see they have staircase packages.
They have whitewood or parana pine.
I have in mind a bare finished starcase with painted risers. Is this a bad
idea with whitewood?
A feasible idea with the parana?

Arthur

I simply couldn't get a wide enough board for a 280mm going (plus a
bit for the nosing), so used good quality red pine boards 175mm wide -
biscuit jointed and glued up to the required width.

Arthur2 wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 10, 9:04 pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?
I am surprised that you can get yellow pine these days if it is.

Southern where?

White pine is hard and durable but does not clean up well or polish it
won't take stain or any kind of a fine finish.

Red pine is more likely to be the stuff used in joinery -or was until
vast tracts of spruce needed to be felled due to poor forestry
management. It can be finished to a fine plish and takes any stain or
varnish well. It is also easy to impregnate without pressure treating.

Yellow pine, if clear of knots is considered one of the finest
furniture materials in the world. But it is fairly soft. All the 17th
and 18th century veneered mahogany furniture is laid on it.

That sounds like Quebec Yellow, which looks like cheese and carves as
easily. OTOH Southern Yellow is tough with a flowery grain figure, and
Parana has a more bland appearance. They're about the only hard wearing
softwoods that come in a 300mm width



Taken on board..to coin a phrase.
Took another look at t and p and see they have staircase packages.
They have whitewood or parana pine.
I have in mind a bare finished starcase with painted risers. Is this a bad
idea with whitewood?
A feasible idea with the parana?

Arthur

Hi all.
I've been searching T & P's site and see they have 38mm x 300mm
southern yellow pine...also 25mm x 250mm.
Is this SYP the right stuff for the string and treads?


Yes thats right.

I went throu the same process last year, just making a 3 tread stairs
to an outside door.

Went to Jewson Ltd and I nearly fell off my perch when I was told the
price. Asked for offcuts, but they were so split and twisted, it made
think what happens to the real mckoy.

So I forgot that idea and got some 'pine' at 175 wide, that had been
tanalised, and glued and screwed them together from the back.