Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?
--
Chris

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?

They can only demand your address if they are selling TV receiving
apparatus. If it's anything else just refuse to give it. If the
cashiers are experienced they'll put in the shops postcode, otherwise
they have to go and find the manager who'll tell them to do that.

1. Where is the DIY connection?

2. What's wrong with uk.legal or uk.legal.moderated

3. What's wrong with

Mr M Mouse
Make up a plausible local postcode
Make up a house number
Say yes when they tell you the address

Newshound wrote:
1. Where is the DIY connection?

2. What's wrong with uk.legal or uk.legal.moderated

3. What's wrong with

Mr M Mouse
Make up a plausible local postcode
Make up a house number
Say yes when they tell you the address

FWIW the same thing happened to me in the Southampton MachineMart, so it is
a bit D-I-Y related.

--
LSR

On Jul 4, 9:42 pm, "Newshound" wrote:
1. Where is the DIY connection?

2. What's wrong with uk.legal or uk.legal.moderated

3. What's wrong with

Mr M Mouse
Make up a plausible local postcode
Make up a house number
Say yes when they tell you the address

This used to wind me up at RS. They will only deal with trade and as I
very infrequently buy from them, I don't use much electronic stuff, I
don't bother with an account so I always have to take proof that I am
in a trade. They never the less still want my deatils for the system
despite the fact that the next time I go back and purchase something
they wouldn't look up their records and see that I had bought from
them before, I would still have to take evidence with me.
As a consequence I only ever use them as a last resort. I prefer to
del with businesses that actually want me a customer.

Kevin

In article .com,
Kev wrote:
This used to wind me up at RS. They will only deal with trade and as I
very infrequently buy from them, I don't use much electronic stuff, I
don't bother with an account so I always have to take proof that I am
in a trade.

This simply isn't true. Anyone with a credit or debit card can establish a
'cash' account and buy from them. So no different from most 'mail' order
places.

They never the less still want my deatils for the system
despite the fact that the next time I go back and purchase something
they wouldn't look up their records and see that I had bought from
them before, I would still have to take evidence with me.
As a consequence I only ever use them as a last resort. I prefer to
del with businesses that actually want me a customer.

If you're talking about their trade counters, they don't want 'Maplin'
type customers wasting their and their customer's time. Wish more
nominally trade places were the same.

The original idea of this was to protect their main customers businesses
by not selling direct to their *potential* customers.

--
*Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article .com,
Kev wrote:
This used to wind me up at RS. They will only deal with trade and as I
very infrequently buy from them, I don't use much electronic stuff, I
don't bother with an account so I always have to take proof that I am
in a trade.

This simply isn't true. Anyone with a credit or debit card can establish a
'cash' account and buy from them. So no different from most 'mail' order
places.

They never the less still want my deatils for the system
despite the fact that the next time I go back and purchase something
they wouldn't look up their records and see that I had bought from
them before, I would still have to take evidence with me.
As a consequence I only ever use them as a last resort. I prefer to
del with businesses that actually want me a customer.

If you're talking about their trade counters, they don't want 'Maplin'
type customers wasting their and their customer's time. Wish more
nominally trade places were the same.

.... They ran out of 100uF caps last month

again


--
geoff

On 2007-07-06 13:02:37 +0100, Kev said:

On Jul 4, 9:42 pm, "Newshound" wrote:
1. Where is the DIY connection?

2. What's wrong with uk.legal or uk.legal.moderated

3. What's wrong with

Mr M Mouse
Make up a plausible local postcode
Make up a house number
Say yes when they tell you the address

This used to wind me up at RS. They will only deal with trade

Untrue.

and as I
very infrequently buy from them, I don't use much electronic stuff, I
don't bother with an account so I always have to take proof that I am
in a trade.

That is only if you only use a trade counter. If you buy once on line
first, you get a delivery point code and invoice. You can take that
along as proof of relationship.

The only issue for the trade counters is that they do not have planning
permission to operate as retail outlets. It does not mean that from a
business perspective they won't sell to anybody.



They never the less still want my deatils for the system
despite the fact that the next time I go back and purchase something
they wouldn't look up their records and see that I had bought from
them before, I would still have to take evidence with me.
As a consequence I only ever use them as a last resort. I prefer to
del with businesses that actually want me a customer.


That isn't an RS issue. Talk to your planning department about it.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...


The only issue for the trade counters is that they do not have planning
permission to operate as retail outlets. It does not mean that from a
business perspective they won't sell to anybody.

Cheers for that info. I suppose that answers the question I asked at Newey
and Eyres last week that the staff could not answer.
I asked them why a notice had been put up saying "Trade Customers Only" and
their reply was "because head office told us to, mind you we still sell to
the public". And yes, non account sales need a name address or they won't
serve you.

Adam

On 2007-07-06 23:46:34 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...


The only issue for the trade counters is that they do not have planning
permission to operate as retail outlets. It does not mean that from a
business perspective they won't sell to anybody.

Cheers for that info. I suppose that answers the question I asked at
Newey and Eyres last week that the staff could not answer.
I asked them why a notice had been put up saying "Trade Customers Only"
and their reply was "because head office told us to, mind you we still
sell to the public". And yes, non account sales need a name address or
they won't serve you.

Adam

So you run off a sheet of headed paper on the inkjet printer......

The simple solution is to open a cash account. OK, so big deal,
they have an address. Frankly, they are so inept at marketing it
doesn't matter anyway.

The only other aspect is that if you buy as a trade customer you don't
get consumer protection. However, I have never had any squeaks
from a trade counter about that - they replace and don't even ask.

As for RS, their customer service is always exemplary as far as I have
found. Not long ago, they screwed up on a shipment including a £7
relay - sent the wrong one. The right one appeared in a taxi sent
from the Heathrow trade counter on a Saturday morning. No charge of
course.

On 2007-07-04 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] said:

Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal
address or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal information?

No you are not required to do that regardless of the form of payment.
The request is for marketing. Just say no thank you.

Their other favourite trick there is to ask if you want a VAT receipt
or to buy for a business. If you agree to that, you are buying the
product as a commercial and not a consumer transaction, thus losing the
benefit of consumer legislation.

Finally, it is unwise to make medium to large purchases in cash. Again
you lose a means of using consumer legislation in the event of a
problem. If you pay by credit card and the transaction is for more
than £100, the card company becomes jointly liable with the retailer.
Even if your friend had given you cash, you would have been better off
keeping that and buying the product in your name with a card.

Finally, finally; if you are going to use PC World, it is worth using
their web site to order and then arrange to collect at the store. a)
the price is usually lower, sometimes a lot lower and b) they will
reserve the item for you for a day.

Finally, finally, finally. Watch out with PCW on consumables and small
items. They are bandits in this regard. Example from yesterday.
I needed a couple of 5m RJ11 leads to connect a router to two phone
lines for ADSL service. PCW price is £19.99 each. A very quick look
on the web, with no real attempt to find cheapest brought up
Broadbandbuyer for £3.41 for the same item. They were here this
morning.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...


Finally, finally, finally. Watch out with PCW on consumables and small
items. They are bandits in this regard. Example from yesterday. I
needed a couple of 5m RJ11 leads to connect a router to two phone lines
for ADSL service. PCW price is £19.99 each. A very quick look on the
web, with no real attempt to find cheapest brought up Broadbandbuyer for
£3.41 for the same item. They were here this morning.

Rip-off price that.
Ebuyer do them for less than £2 ea.

dennis@home wrote:

Rip-off price that.
Ebuyer do them for less than £2 ea.


Yes, but I wouldn't buy from them if they were giving them away. The
cable will be made of string/paper and it will take 5 weeks to arrive.


--
Grunff

On Jul 4, 10:07 pm, Grunff wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
Rip-off price that.
Ebuyer do them for less than £2 ea.

Yes, but I wouldn't buy from them if they were giving them away. The
cable will be made of string/paper and it will take 5 weeks to arrive.

--
Grunff

Rubbish. They always deliver when they say they will. They just don't
like you.

MBQ

On 2007-07-04 22:06:20 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...


Finally, finally, finally. Watch out with PCW on consumables and small
items. They are bandits in this regard. Example from yesterday. I
needed a couple of 5m RJ11 leads to connect a router to two phone lines
for ADSL service. PCW price is £19.99 each. A very quick look on the
web, with no real attempt to find cheapest brought up Broadbandbuyer for
£3.41 for the same item. They were here this morning.

Rip-off price that.
Ebuyer do them for less than £2 ea.

Wrong. You don't know what I bought.

This was a particular product CC3011aed15 with screened lead. The
cable run is along with a substantial bunch of network cables and the
signal is weak. With un screened cables the error rates increase and
the DSLAM reduces the link speed. These cables are substantially
better based on measurements at the router. Ebuyer do do this product
but at £3.38. I am not going to tit about for 6p.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...


Wrong. You don't know what I bought.

This was a particular product CC3011aed15 with screened lead. The cable
run is along with a substantial bunch of network cables and the signal is
weak. With un screened cables the error rates increase and the DSLAM
reduces the link speed. These cables are substantially better based on
measurements at the router. Ebuyer do do this product but at £3.38. I
am not going to tit about for 6p.



Lets think about it.. the signal runs over POTS cable for few km and then
through your super cable for 5m and you think it makes a difference?
Would you like some super good ofc, silver plated, directional crystal
speaker cable for your hifi? I can do a good price.

On 4 Jul, 23:01, "dennis@home" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message

...



Wrong. You don't know what I bought.

This was a particular product CC3011aed15 with screened lead. The cable
run is along with a substantial bunch of network cables and the signal is
weak. With un screened cables the error rates increase and the DSLAM
reduces the link speed. These cables are substantially better based on
measurements at the router. Ebuyer do do this product but at £3.38. I
am not going to tit about for 6p.

Lets think about it.. the signal runs over POTS cable for few km and then
through your super cable for 5m and you think it makes a difference?
Would you like some super good ofc, silver plated, directional crystal
speaker cable for your hifi? I can do a good price.

you could say the same about TV/SAT cable after all the signal has
travelled tens miles for terrestrial tv or 20000ish miles from the
transmitter on nothing but air,why bother with fancy screened coax
cable ?

Martin

On 2007-07-04 23:01:02 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...


Wrong. You don't know what I bought.

This was a particular product CC3011aed15 with screened lead. The cable
run is along with a substantial bunch of network cables and the signal is
weak. With un screened cables the error rates increase and the DSLAM
reduces the link speed. These cables are substantially better based on
measurements at the router. Ebuyer do do this product but at £3.38. I
am not going to tit about for 6p.



Lets think about it.. the signal runs over POTS cable for few km and then
through your super cable for 5m and you think it makes a difference?

You think about it before commenting, or better still, go and read
about EMC issues with DSL services.

You didn't read the details which explained that the cable run is
together with a bunch of network cables which are unscreened. While
they are twisted pair, there is a fair amount of radiated interference
close to the cables because balance is not necessarily very good

This is a very different situation to the telco cables from the
exchange where the induced interference is predominantly common mode.
The DSL modem will take care of that. In the home it's a different
story because there are many interference sources.

The RF signal levels at the upper end of the DSL range (1MHz or 2MHz)
are at very low level and subject to all kinds of interference.

I set up tests with the router close to the phone entry point and
obtained once set of figures.

I then installed it in its final location and used a cheap bell wire
type of lead of the type you suggest. Several dBs went off of the CNR
and after a while the DSLAM had reduced the operational speed by about
500k. When there is only 2.5-3Mbit to begin with, this is significant.

On replacing the modem cable with the screened one, the figures
returned to the original values.

Obviously the screened cable doesn't improve the figures compared to
when the signal enters the house. It certainly makes a difference to
whether or not there is further degradation.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
....
Finally, finally, finally. Watch out with PCW on consumables and small
items. ....

I do, very closely. When they are running an offer, I can sometimes buy
original printer cartridges from them for several pounds less than from my
trade supplier. However, you need to get in on the first day of the deal to
find any in stock.

Colin Bignell

"Chris" ] wrote in message
]...
Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact, that's
why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?

I've had this in a few shops recently namely the DSG retail group. I was
told it was purely for research purposes i.e. how far a customer has
travelled to the store.
I was also told it was on a voluntary basis.

Steven.

P.S. uk.legal might have been a better option

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.

Tandy (Radio Shack) used to do this, if I was in a hurry I always
used to give their head office address and postcode - none of the
sales droids ever noticed.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash?

No. It's simply to get you on their database for follow-up
advertising.

It seems preposterous!

It is.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?

Yes, if you have the time make a fuss at the checkout and have
varying salesdroid of increasing rank summoned whilst loudly
declaiming their shoddy practices to other customers. If in a rush
give the advertising standards agency address of 71 High Holborn,
London, WC1V 6QT :-).

--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

If in a rush
give the advertising standards agency address of 71 High Holborn,
London, WC1V 6QT :-).

Or tell the person on the checkout it's DSGI, The Parkway, Sheffield,
S2 5DD

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:00:47 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.

Tandy (Radio Shack) used to do this, if I was in a hurry I always
used to give their head office address and postcode - none of the
sales droids ever noticed.

I live in Stockport -so they never query when I give them SK9 5AF ;-)

In message , Graham
writes
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:00:47 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.

Tandy (Radio Shack) used to do this, if I was in a hurry I always
used to give their head office address and postcode - none of the
sales droids ever noticed.

I live in Stockport -so they never query when I give them SK9 5AF ;-)

Sorry, am I being dense here ?



--
geoff

On Jul 4, 11:46 pm, raden wrote:
In message , Graham
writes

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:00:47 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.

Tandy (Radio Shack) used to do this, if I was in a hurry I always
used to give their head office address and postcode - none of the
sales droids ever noticed.

I live in Stockport -so they never query when I give them SK9 5AF ;-)

Sorry, am I being dense here ?

--
geoff

Yes, Google for it.

I thought that was standard practice for all queries nowadays? ;-)

Mathew

In message .com,
Mathew Newton writes
On Jul 4, 11:46 pm, raden wrote:
In message , Graham
writes

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:00:47 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 21:28:02 +0100, Chris ] wrote:

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.

Tandy (Radio Shack) used to do this, if I was in a hurry I always
used to give their head office address and postcode - none of the
sales droids ever noticed.

I live in Stockport -so they never query when I give them SK9 5AF ;-)

Sorry, am I being dense here ?

--
geoff

Yes, Google for it.

I thought that was standard practice for all queries nowadays? ;-)

Ah, I see

I obviously don't get out enough


--
geoff

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact, that's
why I would often choose to pay by cash.


AFAIK, and IANAL(BMWI - Scotland )
( BMWI = But My Wife Is )

A retailer has the right to refuse to sell to anyone for no reason at all.
There is no obligation on anyone to sell anything.
That extends to retailers who run shops.

Having something for sale in a shop does not constitiue part of a contract
( at least in Scotland ). A contract comprises an Offer and Acceptance. A
shop display is an "Invitation to Treat", in essence a pre-amble to a
contract. It's inviting the shopper to make an offer. The shopper brings
the item to the checkout and Offers to pay, and the shopkeeper Accepts.
That is the contract.

This is how they can get out of honouring 50" plasma TVs incorrectly
price-tagged at £2.50. The price tag is not part of a contract. The
shopkeeper can decline the shopper's offer to pay £2.50, and there is no
contract.

If the shopkeeper chooses to require you to stand on one leg, spin around,
and sing the national anthem before they agree to accept your offer, that is
their right.

Likewise, they may choose to ask you for personal information.
You are not required to supply this.

If you don't like their terms of business, you also have the right to walk
away.

Also, if they do collect information, then they will likely be subject to
the Data Protection act.


Sorry, can't translate this for England ( but I'd be surprised if it's much
different. )

--
Ron

In article , Ron Lowe
writes

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling
something for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a
company personal information, which might be used for marketing. In
fact, that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.


AFAIK, and IANAL(BMWI - Scotland )
( BMWI = But My Wife Is )
A retailer has the right to refuse to sell to anyone for no reason at all.
There is no obligation on anyone to sell anything.
That extends to retailers who run shops.
Having something for sale in a shop does not constitiue part of a
contract ( at least in Scotland ). A contract comprises an Offer and
Acceptance. A shop display is an "Invitation to Treat", in essence a
pre-amble to a contract. It's inviting the shopper to make an offer.
The shopper brings the item to the checkout and Offers to pay, and the
shopkeeper Accepts. That is the contract.
This is how they can get out of honouring 50" plasma TVs incorrectly
price-tagged at £2.50. The price tag is not part of a contract. The
shopkeeper can decline the shopper's offer to pay £2.50, and there is
no contract.
If the shopkeeper chooses to require you to stand on one leg, spin
around, and sing the national anthem before they agree to accept your
offer, that is their right.
Likewise, they may choose to ask you for personal information.
You are not required to supply this.
If you don't like their terms of business, you also have the right to
walk away.
Also, if they do collect information, then they will likely be subject
to the Data Protection act.
Sorry, can't translate this for England ( but I'd be surprised if it's
much different. )

Thanks for such a detailed and clear reply - much appreciated.
It seems PC World has all the power.
Oh well ...
I will not grumble about how the world is.
--
Chris

On 2007-07-05 12:44:59 +0100, Chris ] said:

In article , Ron Lowe
writes

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.


AFAIK, and IANAL(BMWI - Scotland )
( BMWI = But My Wife Is )
A retailer has the right to refuse to sell to anyone for no reason at all.
There is no obligation on anyone to sell anything.
That extends to retailers who run shops.
Having something for sale in a shop does not constitiue part of a
contract ( at least in Scotland ). A contract comprises an Offer and
Acceptance. A shop display is an "Invitation to Treat", in essence a
pre-amble to a contract. It's inviting the shopper to make an offer.
The shopper brings the item to the checkout and Offers to pay, and the
shopkeeper Accepts. That is the contract.
This is how they can get out of honouring 50" plasma TVs incorrectly
price-tagged at £2.50. The price tag is not part of a contract. The
shopkeeper can decline the shopper's offer to pay £2.50, and there is
no contract.
If the shopkeeper chooses to require you to stand on one leg, spin
around, and sing the national anthem before they agree to accept your
offer, that is their right.
Likewise, they may choose to ask you for personal information.
You are not required to supply this.
If you don't like their terms of business, you also have the right to
walk away.
Also, if they do collect information, then they will likely be subject
to the Data Protection act.
Sorry, can't translate this for England ( but I'd be surprised if it's
much different. )

Thanks for such a detailed and clear reply - much appreciated.
It seems PC World has all the power.
Oh well ...
I will not grumble about how the world is.

No you have the power. You can shop elsewhere.

On Jul 4, 10:53 pm, "Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS
wrote:
But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact, that's
why I would often choose to pay by cash.

AFAIK, and IANAL(BMWI - Scotland )
( BMWI = But My Wife Is )

A retailer has the right to refuse to sell to anyone for no reason at all.

Sex? Race? Disability?

(They're not offers by the way...!)

Mathew

"Mathew Newton" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 4, 10:53 pm, "Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS
wrote:
But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's
why I would often choose to pay by cash.

AFAIK, and IANAL(BMWI - Scotland )
( BMWI = But My Wife Is )

A retailer has the right to refuse to sell to anyone for no reason at
all.

Sex? Race? Disability?

(They're not offers by the way...!)


That's correct: it would be an offence to refuse based on those grounds.
But that's not what I said.

I said he could refuse without specifying any reason.

--
Ron

"Chris" ] wrote in message
]...
Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.


Its so they can send you junk mail later on.

It is not a legal obligation to submit your name and address unless its a TV
or associated apperatus that requires them to ask for it.
Personally I give a blag name and address if buying such apperatus.

In article ],
Chris ] wrote:
I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

The receipt you then get includes the name and address. Makes it pretty
solid if you need to claim on warranty etc.

Other companies do the same - TLC, for one.

As regards PC World, I've not received any promotional material from them
despite having given my name and address. Could be they only sell on their
lists, but I doubt it, as that wouldn't make sense. Joining the postal
preference scheme is the best way to help avoid junk mail. Unfortunately
most of mine is in the form of fliers etc so not delivered by the postman.

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On Jul 4, 9:28 pm, Chris ] wrote:
Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?

Your thw one buying it, so give your own details, or just refuse.

MBQ

In article .com,
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On Jul 4, 9:28 pm, Chris ] wrote:
Someone may be interested enough to help with this.
Apologies for its being slightly OT - but I don't know where to ask.
Please ignore the article ... unless you are kind enough and have time
enough to answer.

I went into PC World to buy a printer for a disabled friend.
He had given me enough cash to buy it.

When I got to the till, the cashier wanted full name and address
details.
Even though I was paying cash.
This caused a lot of problems - because I didn't know his formal address
or postcode.

But do they have a right to demand personal data when selling something
for cash? It seems preposterous! I wouldn't want to give a company
personal information, which might be used for marketing. In fact,
that's why I would often choose to pay by cash.

What have you found?
Is it possible to buy things with cash without giving personal
information?

Your thw one buying it, so give your own details, or just refuse.

They said that, if I refused, they wouldn't sell me the printer.
From an earlier legal comment it seems that they perhaps do have that
right,
which is a shame!
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Chris

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:41:07 UTC, Chris ] wrote:

They said that, if I refused, they wouldn't sell me the printer.
From an earlier legal comment it seems that they perhaps do have that
right, which is a shame!

There was a case, probably mentioned here, where the customer had paid
for the printer and then they asked for details. He refused, and they
said he couldn't have the item. He walked out with it, was (I think)
challenged by security, and he dared them to stop him (unlawful
detention or similar).

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On Jul 5, 12:55 pm, "Bob Eager" wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:41:07 UTC, Chris ] wrote:
They said that, if I refused, they wouldn't sell me the printer.
From an earlier legal comment it seems that they perhaps do have that
right, which is a shame!

There was a case, probably mentioned here, where the customer had paid
for the printer and then they asked for details. He refused, and they
said he couldn't have the item. He walked out with it, was (I think)
challenged by security, and he dared them to stop him (unlawful
detention or similar).

In that scenario, they have already accepted payment. In the OPs
scenario they are merely offering to sell him a printer on their
terms, one of which being that he supplies personal details.

MBQ

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:40:11 UTC, "
wrote:

On Jul 5, 12:55 pm, "Bob Eager" wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:41:07 UTC, Chris ] wrote:
They said that, if I refused, they wouldn't sell me the printer.
From an earlier legal comment it seems that they perhaps do have that
right, which is a shame!

There was a case, probably mentioned here, where the customer had paid
for the printer and then they asked for details. He refused, and they
said he couldn't have the item. He walked out with it, was (I think)
challenged by security, and he dared them to stop him (unlawful
detention or similar).

In that scenario, they have already accepted payment. In the OPs
scenario they are merely offering to sell him a printer on their
terms, one of which being that he supplies personal details.

I'm perfectly aware of that, and assumed that anyone with a brain cell
would realise the reason. It was just a nice story, and perhaps a way to
proceed if one wants to wind them up...say you'll do it after you've
paid.

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