Hi,

I just got a large lashing kit from TLC (http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/
Products/MXLK13G.html) however I now realise the 5m of lashing wire
(hawser wire...i think it's called...) isn't quite long enough. Any
idea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

Cheers
Dan

On 16 May 2007 06:47:22 -0700, Dan wrote:

Hi,

I just got a large lashing kit from TLC (http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/
Products/MXLK13G.html) however I now realise the 5m of lashing wire
(hawser wire...i think it's called...) isn't quite long enough. Any
idea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.

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Frank Erskine

On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:
dea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Really? I never thought it would be that easy...thanks!

On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.

Cheers
Dan

"Dan" wrote in message
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Hi,

I just got a large lashing kit from TLC (http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/
Products/MXLK13G.html) however I now realise the 5m of lashing wire
(hawser wire...i think it's called...) isn't quite long enough. Any
idea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

Cheers
Dan

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ire/index.html

In article . com,
Dan writes
On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.

Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well, different
anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it back on (and
around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either regular wire rope or
catenary wire will do the same self gripping job. I stand to be corrected but
TV tech groups might have that specialist knowledge, uk.tech.digital-tv
springs to mind but there may be a better choice.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

fred wrote:

On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:


B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.


Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well, different
anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it back on (and
around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either regular wire rope or
catenary wire will do the same self gripping job. I stand to be corrected but
TV tech groups might have that specialist knowledge, uk.tech.digital-tv
springs to mind but there may be a better choice.

I agree with you Fred.

I was surprised to see the suggestion that B&Q held stock. I have never
seen it in our local store.

I'm sure that you could cobble something together using wire and clamps
from B&Q but this would be expensive and involve extra work.

To the OP, it is possible to splice two cables together without
weakening the cable but this has to be a proper splice and not a simple
twist/knot sort of thing. It is easy to do but hard to describe in
words! I have looked on Google but I can't find a reference.

Basically, it needs the two cables splayed out by, say, a foot or more
and put end to end so that the individual cores are accessible. Take one
core and wrap it tightly around the opposite *cable* five or six times
then cut off excess. Do the same with one of the cores from the opposite
cable. By now you will have made a joint, carry on doing this with
alternate wires, each wrap being done tightly and close to the adjacent
wrap. Now it will become clear why so much of the cable had to be
splayed out!

As I said, easier to do than describe!

HTH

Steve

In message . com, Dan
writes
Hi,

I just got a large lashing kit from TLC (http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/
Products/MXLK13G.html) however I now realise the 5m of lashing wire
(hawser wire...i think it's called...) isn't quite long enough. Any
idea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

Cheers
Dan


CPC

--
geoff

On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:45:40 +0000, fred wrote:

In article . com, Dan
writes
On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.

Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well, different
anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it back on (and
around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either regular wire
rope or catenary wire will do the same self gripping job. I stand to be
corrected but TV tech groups might have that specialist knowledge,
uk.tech.digital-tv springs to mind but there may be a better choice.

===================================
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

If so, I saw the same in B&Q today.

Cic.

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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
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In article , Cicero
writes
On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:45:40 +0000, fred wrote:

In article . com, Dan
writes
On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.

Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well, different
anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it back on (and
around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either regular wire
rope or catenary wire will do the same self gripping job. I stand to be
corrected but TV tech groups might have that specialist knowledge,
uk.tech.digital-tv springs to mind but there may be a better choice.

===================================
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

Nope, this stuff is stranded. As Geoff points out CPC have got it:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Aerials+&...g+Accessories/
MAXVIEW/D4307/displayProduct.jsp?sku=AP00050
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yoyy8p

but it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the right way
to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The smaller sizes of
galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as wire rope.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

Thanks for all the replies,

after a bit more investigation I found a company called JW Hardy who
will cut lashing wire in 10m lengths.

Cheers
Dan

On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:10 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:45:40 +0000, fred wrote:

In article . com, Dan
writes
On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote:

B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.


Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I
should have checked there first.

Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well,
different anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it
back on (and around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either
regular wire rope or catenary wire will do the same self gripping job.
I stand to be corrected but TV tech groups might have that specialist
knowledge, uk.tech.digital-tv springs to mind but there may be a better
choice.

===================================
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

Nope, this stuff is stranded. As Geoff points out CPC have got it:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Aerials+&...g+Accessories/
MAXVIEW/D4307/displayProduct.jsp?sku=AP00050 or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yoyy8p

but it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the right
way to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The smaller sizes
of galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as wire rope.

==================================
Are you sure that *stranded* wire will hold just by being bent and
twisted back on itself? Usually it needs some kind of clamp or even an
'eye splice'. Is this the same (under a different name) as 'lashing wire'?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCAT30.html

Cic.

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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

In article ,
Cicero wrote:
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

If so, I saw the same in B&Q today.

The correct stuff is multi-strand and made from pretty soft steel so it
can be twisted easily. It also has heavy plating to help prevent the onset
of rust.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Cicero
writes
On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:10 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

Nope, this stuff is stranded. As Geoff points out CPC have got it:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Aerials+&...g+Accessories/
MAXVIEW/D4307/displayProduct.jsp?sku=AP00050 or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yoyy8p

but it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the right
way to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The smaller sizes
of galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as wire rope.

==================================
Are you sure that *stranded* wire will hold just by being bent and
twisted back on itself? Usually it needs some kind of clamp or even an
'eye splice'. Is this the same (under a different name) as 'lashing wire'?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCAT30.html

My, you've got your sceptical pants on this morning ;-)

I had my doubts too but after seeing it close up on a roof and hearing it
spoken about on the digital-tv group I do believe it is self gripping when
looped back and twisted correctly. Take a look at the pic in the CPC link
and you'll see it has a very specific tight twist which I believe is the key. It
does sort of make sense as it removes the need for too many tools and
fiddly operations on the rooftop.

And no it's not catenary wire.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:24:19 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:10 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

Nope, this stuff is stranded. As Geoff points out CPC have got it:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Aerials+&...g+Accessories/
MAXVIEW/D4307/displayProduct.jsp?sku=AP00050 or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yoyy8p

but it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the
right way to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The
smaller sizes of galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as
wire rope.

==================================
Are you sure that *stranded* wire will hold just by being bent and
twisted back on itself? Usually it needs some kind of clamp or even an
'eye splice'. Is this the same (under a different name) as 'lashing
wire'?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCAT30.html

My, you've got your sceptical pants on this morning ;-)

I had my doubts too but after seeing it close up on a roof and hearing
it spoken about on the digital-tv group I do believe it is self gripping
when looped back and twisted correctly. Take a look at the pic in the
CPC link and you'll see it has a very specific tight twist which I
believe is the key. It does sort of make sense as it removes the need
for too many tools and fiddly operations on the rooftop.

And no it's not catenary wire.

==================================

Thanks for the explanation, I'll take your word for the special twist. I'm
not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for, but at least I now know what
'lashing wire' is used for. Most of the stranded wire ropes I've seen
have a life of their own with every loose strand very stiff,
needle-sharp and determined to go its own way - mostly into my fingers.

Cic.

--
===================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:00:00 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:24:19 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:10 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Cicero
writes
That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wi

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...82147&ts=46018

Nope, this stuff is stranded. As Geoff points out CPC have got it:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Aerials+&...g+Accessories/
MAXVIEW/D4307/displayProduct.jsp?sku=AP00050 or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yoyy8p

but it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the
right way to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The
smaller sizes of galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as
wire rope.

==================================
Are you sure that *stranded* wire will hold just by being bent and
twisted back on itself? Usually it needs some kind of clamp or even an
'eye splice'. Is this the same (under a different name) as 'lashing
wire'?

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCAT30.html

My, you've got your sceptical pants on this morning ;-)

I had my doubts too but after seeing it close up on a roof and hearing
it spoken about on the digital-tv group I do believe it is self gripping
when looped back and twisted correctly. Take a look at the pic in the
CPC link and you'll see it has a very specific tight twist which I
believe is the key. It does sort of make sense as it removes the need
for too many tools and fiddly operations on the rooftop.

And no it's not catenary wire.

==================================

Thanks for the explanation, I'll take your word for the special twist. I'm
not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for, but at least I now know what
'lashing wire' is used for. Most of the stranded wire ropes I've seen
have a life of their own with every loose strand very stiff,
needle-sharp and determined to go its own way - mostly into my fingers.

There is a preferred way of attaching stranded wire to a thimble,
taking each strand back around the wire to give a tapered and very
strong result - have a look at a staywire attached to a BT "telegraph"
pole with an assymetrical load - much more strain than say a 10-ele
Yagi telly aerial.

It could be that people are only interested nowadays in low-tech
"easy" solutions...

--
Frank Erskine