We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given up
completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that they
will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it all away
but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up chasing
them :-(

Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should get from
them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish - what is this called?

Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would take
loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far too knackered
for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone now!

Cheers,

Darren

"dmc" wrote in message ...


We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given up
completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that they
will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it all away
but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with
absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up
chasing
them :-(

Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should get
from
them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish - what is this
called?

Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would take
loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far too
knackered
for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone now!

Cheers,

Darren



Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her you
are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you have
contacted your local counsillor for that area about the ignorence to help
you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

On 2007-04-01 12:29:13 +0100, "George" said:


"dmc" wrote in message ...

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with
absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up
chasing
them :-(


Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her you
are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you have
contacted your local counsillor for that area about the ignorence to help
you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Registration is not their responsibility.....

dmc wrote:
We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given
up completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that
they
will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it all away
but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?).
Don't say the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails -
all with absolutely no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now
and I'm giving up chasing them :-(

Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should
get from them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish -
what is this called?

Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would
take loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far
too knackered for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone
now!

All waste carriers need to have a licence from the Environment Agency and
have to issue you with a transfer note. Failure to do so can land then and
you with a hefty fine. More details on the Environment Agency website.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...waste/?lang=_e

Peter Crosland

On 2007-04-01 12:15:16 +0100, (dmc) said:



We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given up
completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that they
will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it all away
but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up chasing
them :-(

Pointless because they are not responsible for registration, it is DEFRA.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/...ation/duty.htm



Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should get from
them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish - what is this called?

Waste Transfer Note.

This is normally for commercial waste which yours is not.

However, if you use a commercial waste carrier, skip company etc. then
there should be a WTN, and typically that is on the paperwork you
should get from them.



Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would take
loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far too knackered
for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone now!

Cheers,

Darren

George wrote:
"dmc" wrote in message
...


We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is
full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the
previous owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof
has given up completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that
they will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it
all away but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a
field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?).
Don't say the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails -
all with absolutely no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks
now and I'm giving up chasing them :-(

Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should
get from them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish -
what is this called?

Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would
take loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far
too knackered for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone
now!

Cheers,

Darren



Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Not necessarily so, as they have no legal responsibility to keep a register
of firms that carry out this work nor even to shift the rubbish!

Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Pardon the pun but you are talking complete rubbish! The Council have no
responsibility for anything but normal quantities of domestic rubbish.

Peter Crosland

"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...
Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Pardon the pun but you are talking complete rubbish! The Council have no
responsibility for anything but normal quantities of domestic rubbish.

Peter Crosland




That so,so why do they take broken down wooden wardrobes,bed
mattresses,doors ect ect, where I live.

ps your rates low or summat?

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-04-01 12:29:13 +0100, "George" said:


"dmc" wrote in message
...

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't
say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with
absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up
chasing
them :-(


Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you
are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have
contacted your local counsillor for that area about the ignorence to
help
you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Registration is not their responsibility.....



I didn't say registration was their responsibility,if they are registered
with the council the council can and will let you know.

Liverpool city council has an registered outside contract with a firm called
'bulky bobs' to pick up white goods,you ring the council for disposal of
white goods and they give one or two numbers to ring for said registered
firm.

:-P

George wrote:
"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...
Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform
him/her you are not getting any satisfaction from the council
office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Pardon the pun but you are talking complete rubbish! The Council
have no responsibility for anything but normal quantities of
domestic rubbish.

Peter Crosland




That so,so why do they take broken down wooden wardrobes,bed
mattresses,doors ect ect, where I live.

ps your rates low or summat?


George,

That is at the prerogative of the local authority - *there is no legal
requirement* for them to do so.

FWIW mine will collect any household 'rubbish' such as beds, wardrobes,
fridge's etc FOC - but will not take builders rubble (such as doors) or
garden
rubbish - (unless it can be recycled as compost) but you can take 'em to the
tip yourself - and my council tax isn't exactly low!

A neighbouring local authority charges for the collection service.

Brian G

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:49:42 UTC, "Brian G" wrote:

Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Not necessarily so, as they have no legal responsibility to keep a register
of firms that carry out this work nor even to shift the rubbish!

True enough. But they should still reply, even if only to say that.

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On 2007-04-01 17:59:04 +0100, "George" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-04-01 12:29:13 +0100, "George" said:


"dmc" wrote in message
...

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?). Don't
say
the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails - all with
absolutely
no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now and I'm giving up
chasing
them :-(


Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you
are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have
contacted your local counsillor for that area about the ignorence to
help
you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Registration is not their responsibility.....



I didn't say registration was their responsibility,if they are registered
with the council the council can and will let you know.

That's irrelevant.

The responsibility for waste collection registration is with the Dept
of the Environment.



Liverpool city council has an registered outside contract with a firm called
'bulky bobs' to pick up white goods,you ring the council for disposal of
white goods and they give one or two numbers to ring for said registered
firm.


I think that you're getting confused between outsourcing by the local
authority of its waste collection and the registration process itself.

Of course, the council uses a registered (as in registered by the DoE)
firm to do their collection - even a council in Liverpool is bright
enough to figure that one out. It could be a touch expensive for them
in fines were they to subcontract to Fred's Flytipping rather than to
Bulky Bob.

However, local authorities do tend only to offer collection of a select
range of items over and above the weekly collections of domestic waste.
If the householder wants other things collected, then he has to
make his own arrangements and either take the items to the tip or
organise a commercial firm to do the work.

The sensible householder will identify a few candidates, negotiate the
price and then call the DoE helpline or look on their web site to see
if the firm is registered. One can also use the DoE web site to
identify potential collection firms. However, registration is also
required for some businesses handling waste even if it is not their
primary business. For example, my local vet is on the site, but has
never expressed an interest in dismantling sheds and carting the bits
away. He seems to do rather better chopping the balls off of pussycats.

Is that all clear now?

On 2007-04-01 17:46:34 +0100, "George" said:


"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...
Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Pardon the pun but you are talking complete rubbish! The Council have no
responsibility for anything but normal quantities of domestic rubbish.

Peter Crosland




That so,so why do they take broken down wooden wardrobes,bed
mattresses,doors ect ect, where I live.

To improve the street scene, I imagine - they don't look good in front gardens.

George wrote:
"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...
Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform
him/her you are not getting any satisfaction from the council
office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Pardon the pun but you are talking complete rubbish! The Council
have no responsibility for anything but normal quantities of
domestic rubbish.

Peter Crosland




That so,so why do they take broken down wooden wardrobes,bed
mattresses,doors ect ect, where I live.

ps your rates low or summat?

Yes! They charge a tenner per large item such as a bed.

Peter Crosland

The responsibility for waste collection registration is with the Dept
of the Environment.

Actually the Environment Agency not the DOE.

Peter Crosland

On Sun, 01 Apr 07 11:15:16 GMT, (dmc) wrote:

|!
|!
|!We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
|!of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
|!owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given up
|!completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Sounds as if http:www.bigbonfire.com could be a way out ;-:
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dmc wrote:
We have a large shed/workshop at the bottom of the garden that is full
of old kitchen units and assorted other rubbish left from the previous
owner. Given a) we've been here for 8 years and b) the roof has given
up completely now time has come to get rid of it all.

Several companies seems to advertise in the local free papers that
they
will come and pull it down (not much work there!) and take it all away
but I'm obviously keen to check it doesn't just end up in a field up
the road.

Several of them claim in their ads to be registered (with who?).
Don't say the council as I've rung them 4 times and sent 3 emails -
all with absolutely no answer to this question! It's been 6 weeks now
and I'm giving up chasing them :-(

Also, I seem to recall there being some sort of paperwork we should
get from them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish -
what is this called?

Finally, no, I can't do it myself as it is a big workshop that would
take loads of trips in the car and no, I can't fix it as it was far
too knackered for that to be worthwhile when we moved in let alone
now!

Cheers,

Darren

Book a skip, knock the whole thing down, put in the skip everything that
won't burn, burn the rest.
You could have done it today had you booked a skip yesterday.

In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:49:42 UTC, "Brian G" wrote:

Visit,Phone,meet,write,email your local councillor and inform him/her
you are not getting any satisfaction from the council office.
Do this first and then email or call into office and inform them you
have contacted your local counsillor for that area about the
ignorence to help you on this matter.

This will shift the gits.

Not necessarily so, as they have no legal responsibility to keep a register
of firms that carry out this work nor even to shift the rubbish!

True enough. But they should still reply, even if only to say that.

In article , Andy Hall wrote:
them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish - what is this called?

Waste Transfer Note.

That's the thing I was thinking of


This is normally for commercial waste which yours is not.

Ah...


However, if you use a commercial waste carrier, skip company etc. then
there should be a WTN, and typically that is on the paperwork you
should get from them.

One company that appeals is a fencing company - handy as when the shed is
gone we will need a fence in place ASAP and this lot might be able to do
both (long shot - anyone heard of http://www.jonlewisfencing.co.uk/ ?).

I assume a company like this isn't likely to be offering a Waste Transfer
note then? tbh, I suspect that someone with enough land could just burn a lot
of this. Can't really have a bonfire like that in the garden here (as much
as I'd like to!)

Darren

In article ,
Phil L wrote:

Book a skip, knock the whole thing down, put in the skip everything that
won't burn, burn the rest.
You could have done it today had you booked a skip yesterday.

The problem with this is that we don't have anywhere to put a skip apart
from outside the front of the house. This is a couple of hundred yards from
the shed (unless I carry it all through the house - SWMBO won't allow this)
and I don't fancy shifting loads of old kitchen units and a 18x9 ft shed
that far.

Be much easier to find someone with a smallish truck (TP have got their
7.5 tonne one down the back if the driver reverses it all the way ) who
can pull up, load up and go.

It's shared access so we can't park a skip on it :-(

Darren

On 2007-04-02 21:59:52 +0100, (dmc) said:

In article , Andy Hall wrote:
them to formally transfer the ownership of the rubbish - what is this called?

Waste Transfer Note.

That's the thing I was thinking of


This is normally for commercial waste which yours is not.

Ah...


However, if you use a commercial waste carrier, skip company etc. then
there should be a WTN, and typically that is on the paperwork you
should get from them.

One company that appeals is a fencing company - handy as when the shed is
gone we will need a fence in place ASAP and this lot might be able to do
both (long shot - anyone heard of http://www.jonlewisfencing.co.uk/ ?).

I assume a company like this isn't likely to be offering a Waste Transfer
note then?


I think you'd be wrong.

Go to http://www2.environment-agency.gov.uk/epr/search.asp

Plug in their postcode CT21 4SE and select Waste Carrier and you will
find them as being registered.

Whether they will be interested in demolishing and removing sheds is
another thing.