Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range for
for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges etc,
but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and angled
cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to get away
without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that it only
clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can always add
my G-clamps in appropriate places.

Comments anyone?

Thanks.

Cod Roe wrote:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I like the idea of the sliding carriage

That's not a sliding carriage, it's an ugly mitre gauge. Looks
horrible and is far too far to the left of the blde to be much use.
It's too small to reach the blade for small work, it's not big enough
to carry plywood.

Andy Dingley wrote:
Cod Roe wrote:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I like the idea of the sliding carriage

That's not a sliding carriage, it's an ugly mitre gauge. Looks
horrible and is far too far to the left of the blde to be much use.
It's too small to reach the blade for small work, it's not big enough
to carry plywood.

Basic table saws are not designed to crosscut. You're better with a
cheap chopsaw

On 2007-01-19 16:14:22 +0000, Cod Roe said:

Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range
for for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges etc,
but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and angled
cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to get away
without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that it only
clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can always add
my G-clamps in appropriate places.

Comments anyone?

Thanks.

Unfortunately this type and level of saw is very limited in
application. I have taken a look at this particular model but in
general, this class of saw is a disappointment.

You could get reasonable rip cuts on relatively small pieces provided
that you are willing to check squareness and straightness for every new
cut setting and clamp the far end as you suggest.

The saw does not have a sliding carriage in the generally accepted use
of the term.

That would be something like the slider on this machine

http://tinyurl.com/2gjmd8


On the Ryobi one, really this is nothing more than something to be able
to claim a feature. The extension tables on this type of machine are
on quite thin rods which are not properly supported and there is no
means to automatically square the extension table to the blade. The
slider feature is then a rather small mitre gauge allowed to slide back
and forth. It isn't large enough or substantial enough to give
accurate and repeatable mitre cuts - the whole thing is too flimsy.

If you want to have something mainly to cut mitres, a compound mitre
saw or sliding compound mitre saw is a better choice.

If you want to have a portable table saw of this sort of size then
something like the DeWalt 744, Makita 2704 or Bosch GTS10 have much
better rip fences. However, you are at around a £500 price point with
these. Unless portability is an issue, for similar money or not a lot
more you can have an entry level but much more substantial workshop
tablesaw.

Cod Roe wrote:
Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range for
for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges etc,
but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and angled
cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to get away
without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that it only
clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can always add
my G-clamps in appropriate places.

Where can you fix G-clamps?

For 60 or 70 quid if you have a need for it, it is OK. With anther 60
or 70 quid you can get a chop saw of similar quality.

A DeWalt Flip Saw is a lot more expensive. Probably because of import
taxes. It would be worth going to the USA or Canada to buy one and
various other goodies. But it is a very nice piece of equiptment.

You could use an hand held electric saw for occasional use. The
difference with them is that yo use a baton screwed to a sheet rather
than a fence. Which is OK for one offs but not for cutting a pallet
full of boards to the same size.

A big plus for the hand held is that you can put it away in moments and
it takes no space.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
Cod Roe wrote:
Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range for
for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges etc,
but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and angled
cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to get away
without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that it only
clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can always add
my G-clamps in appropriate places.

Where can you fix G-clamps?

The back edge looks square enough, unlike the TGS flip saws which are
really not very good in sawbench mode (unless they've changed
significantly in the last 5 years)


For 60 or 70 quid if you have a need for it, it is OK. With anther 60
or 70 quid you can get a chop saw of similar quality.

A DeWalt Flip Saw is a lot more expensive. Probably because of import
taxes. It would be worth going to the USA or Canada to buy one and
various other goodies. But it is a very nice piece of equiptment.

You could use an hand held electric saw for occasional use. The
difference with them is that yo use a baton screwed to a sheet rather
than a fence. Which is OK for one offs but not for cutting a pallet
full of boards to the same size.

A big plus for the hand held is that you can put it away in moments and
it takes no space.

Cod Roe wrote:
Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range
for for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges
etc, but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and
angled cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to
get away without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that
it only clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can
always add my G-clamps in appropriate places.


If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent one as
an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

in 610134 20070120 002020 "The Medway Handyman" wrote:
Cod Roe wrote:
Does anyone have any experiences on this new addition to their range
for for light use:

http://www.ryobitools.co.uk/files/06...?productID=288

I would like to use it for some long rips in shaping window ledges
etc, but also I like the idea of the sliding carriage for square and
angled cross cutting. With the carriage I think I might be able to
get away without a mitre saw. The rip fence looks quite poor in that
it only clamps at one end, but since it is only for light work I can
always add my G-clamps in appropriate places.


If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent one as
an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

In which respect Bob? The fence is about 30" (?) long and about 3" x 2" in
cross section if that helps?


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

in 610168 20070120 091831 "The Medway Handyman" wrote:
Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

In which respect Bob? The fence is about 30" (?) long and about 3" x 2" in
cross section if that helps?

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Thank you. Think I'll get one.

On 2007-01-20 10:25:14 +0000, Bob Martin said:

in 610168 20070120 091831 "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very

pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

In which respect Bob? The fence is about 30" (?) long and about 3" x 2" in
cross section if that helps?

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Thank you. Think I'll get one.

That's the best mod. you can do for this type of saw. Another is to
build some infeed and outfeed tables that can fit around it.

This plan, and ones like it have been published many times.


http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1053

Andy Hall wrote:
On:25:14 +0000, Bob Martin said:
in "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

The fence is about 30" long and about 3" x 2" in cross section if that helps?

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Think I'll get one.

That's the best mod. you can do for this type of saw. Another is to
build some infeed and outfeed tables that can fit around it.

This plan, and ones like it have been published many times.

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1053

At 44 quid it aught to be good. Almost as good as getting a couple of
clamps that will fit it or put a thin board on it to take an home made
fence.

in 610258 20070120 152420 "Weatherlawyer" wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On:25:14 +0000, Bob Martin said:
in "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

The fence is about 30" long and about 3" x 2" in cross section if that helps?

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Think I'll get one.

That's the best mod. you can do for this type of saw. Another is to
build some infeed and outfeed tables that can fit around it.

This plan, and ones like it have been published many times.

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1053

At 44 quid it aught to be good. Almost as good as getting a couple of
clamps that will fit it or put a thin board on it to take an home made
fence.

It's about the ease, speed and accuracy with which the fence can be moved.
My current fence is a two-handed trial-and-error struggle and I watch Norm
on the TV with envy as he effortlessly moves his fence with one-hand.

On 2007-01-20 15:24:20 +0000, "Weatherlawyer" said:


Andy Hall wrote:
On:25:14 +0000, Bob Martin said:
in "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Bob Martin wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0

Very

pleased with mine - transformed the saw.

Looks nice - what are the dimensions?

The fence is about 30" long and about 3" x 2" in cross section if that helps?

Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Think I'll get one.

That's the best mod. you can do for this type of saw. Another is to
build some infeed and outfeed tables that can fit around it.

This plan, and ones like it have been published many times.

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1053

At 44 quid it aught to be good. Almost as good as getting a couple of
clamps that will fit it or put a thin board on it to take an home made
fence.

Not as quick and not as effective.

A £44 investment on a £200 saw does make reasonable sense considering
that the fence is the weakest aspect.

Andy Hall wrote:


A £44 investment on a £200 saw does make reasonable sense considering
that the fence is the weakest aspect.

Dead right. There are a lot of sub £200 table saws about, but they all seem
to have dodgy fences. Then a gap in the market appears until you get to the
£500 saws.

I paid about £180 for my Charnwood (induction motor, removeable throat
plate) and added the Axminster upgrade, so it topped up to around £225 for a
good accurate easy to use saw.

I'd rather have a Bosch £500 jobby, but can't afford/justify it, but I'm
much better off than if I had bought a £120 B&Q effort.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent one as
an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0


Does that one clamp at both ends, or just at the front?

Cod Roe wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

If the fence is the problem - and it probably will be , get a decent
one as an add on
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...sfile=1&jump=0


Does that one clamp at both ends, or just at the front?

Just at the front, but it works well and doesn't move at all. You can adust
it for near perfect square to the blade as well.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257